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Calling out a product for being far less than promised isn't called being a crybaby. It is called being a responsible consumer. This game is a letdown, that story was a complete joke and doesn't deserve to be called a narrative of any sort. Sure it is pretty, sure it plays well but it simply gives consumers an absolutely astounding lack of content and falls very far beneath Bungie's previous work. I will hold Bungie to the standard of their erstwhile work, so if you want to let them gouge you fine. But don't expect the rest of us to do the same.
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  • Edited by Nick Peck: 9/18/2014 2:52:15 PM
    I'm happy with the content that I got since going into the game I KNEW that I will get more down the road. Bungie never promised anything, give that up to peoples stupid expectations of things they don't know anything about, then complain when things done line up how they wanted them to in their heads. If you aren't happy, sorry, but don't act like you are speaking for everyone. Some of us normal people are enjoying what we are playing :D

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  • If you enjoy it by all means play. But your inability to give constructive criticism or hold Bungie to the standards of their previous work is doing far more harm than good. You say Bungie never promised us anything? So the part in their E3 video where they said playing Destiny with friends would blow our mind wasn't a promise? and if you believe so then aren't you having the same stupid expectations that many others had but instead of for launch for future content?. Because as far as I have seen they haven't made any promises about that content that were more significant than the ones they gave prior to launch. Don't act like I am speaking for everyone? I'm not. I speak for myself and the statistical majority that find the poor effort that Bungie put into many of Destiny's features unacceptable, especially the features they have done well before. As you are welcome to see for yourself I'm not the minority you try to portray me as. http://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/69208002/0/0/1 Although this feedback post was originally for the beta many if not all of the issues I brought up still exist within Destiny and the growing poll numbers certainly reassure me of that. If you want to kowtow its on you.

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  • So sorry you thought this game was halo .... It's not a story game , it's not a single player game , it's something all together different , and bungie did a great job , it plays well , gear is good , awesome mmo elements with leveling up . And they haven't released everything yet , we will continue to get free updates every month with different content , other games of this style make you pay monthly . It really sounds like you should just sell your destiny disc and maybe get halo ? You speak for a very small percentage of the millions who bought this game , don't like it don't play it and as far as holding bungie accountable ? Accountable for what ? The game is exactly what they said it would be , so please leave this forum and go play come cod or halo , this game is too deep for you

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  • No. Really? Of course it is a multiplayer game and majority of the features in this game are without a doubt. Poorly done. Gear is of a standard level an nothing more. Considering how weapons are often exactly the same but have higher level versions of themselves with slightly different elements and abilities. That is without mentioning how Grindy the system used to get weapons and armor is. Also dont portray what Destiny is doing as revolutionary because it isn't. Defiance does the exact same thing as destiny but it accomplished it earlier with every point you have made in this post. Considering how I have evidence that I am not a statistical minority and you dont there isn't even an argument there. Also holding Bungie to the standard they have set before is hardly something to be condemned. At least Halo had a story that was worth the first playthrough and every run after that, Destiny isn't worth the first. But if you want to consume a crappy product and tell yourself it is revolutionary and awesome go right ahead. But Destiny is about as deep as a paddling pool.

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  • And I'm not sure you knew this but destiny was in production long before defiance , and literally there was zero content after beating the story for a year . Not one of the mods matched with the weapons , and the gear was purely cosmetic , destiny has been out little more than a week and we already have new content , and guess what more content next week oh wait more content next month too ?!!! And the month after that . I'm really sorry you wasted 60 bucks on a game you thought was going to be the next halo and that you have no idea what a game with mmo elements works with content patches and devolving story , did you miss the press release where bungie mentioned 10 year life cycle , I would understand what your saying if it where 3 months down the line and there was the same shit as day 1 , but that's not the case , you fail have a great day tho !!!

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  • Edited by 101WaysToBeBronze: 9/18/2014 6:46:52 PM
    10 year life cycle? The blockbuster titles being put out over the next few years are set to leave destiny behind. Star Citizen will be out around 2016 with beta and such in between. Also if Destiny began production long before Defiance what we got at launch was the biggest ripoff of the year. With that much development time they shouldn't need to drip feed content to players. At the very least Defiance had a story to play through and other MMO's such as guild wars had far greater content and story than what destiny offered us. Ultimately I know poor game when I see one, it may improve but it probably wont erase the biggest problems. Enjoy your day too! Thanks for making me look and feel intelligent!

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  • And honestly you played destiny for 16 hours , you haven't even started endgame yet go back to last of us or odd world or little big planet , since those are your top 3 games you play

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  • No I have actually played closer to 25. With around 8 of that strictly for grinding in patrols. I'm not going to pat Bungie on the back and call the game genius for failing to deliver at the endgame. Hell it failed to deliver at the start.

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  • No you make yourself look like a crybaby a narrow minded one at that ,complaining about content you haven't even done , citing numbers from a small demographic on a forum of a game that sold millions . Devolving a game is a lot more than programming levels , your a moron if you think defiance had more content and guild wars story backround wasn't complete when it released , they had patches with new content every few months , just like wow or ff online or rifts , or any other mmo , be honest with your self you wanted destiny to be halo and it isn't so now your mad . You keep talking about a game that doesn't even have a release date yet , doesn't have a playable demo or a beta , why don't you go find a star citizen fourm to gush over

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  • Hardly I'm calling them out for failures and have given them constructive feedback so they can improve. You can continue to say that my sample is meaningless but it is you not the numbers which is the issue. No I said Defiance had a story which is more than I can say for this game and guild wars 2 had an amazing story upon release with tonnes of in game content to access later on (Sure some it came later). If I am being honest with myself I wanted Destiny to be as good as Halo not replicate it exactly. As for Star Citizen it currently does have a playable demo to test the gameplay mechanics and stress test the servers, so you are completely off on that one and despite not having a story playable yet they have listed everything they plan to put in the game for all to see which are legally enforceable promises (of course if funding fell short of these promises after release the community is of sufficient size and wealth to band together and provide it). If there is anything that is weird to gush over it is grinding.

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  • You mention defiance , which was without a doubt one of the shittiest games ever , hence the reason it's free now , none of the mods matched with the weapon types and after you beat the story there wasn't shit to do , now I know you're a -blam!-ing moron for sure , you haven't even completed the end game content , you level 24 , you haven't even done patrols , get a life , you played through the story then came on here and started bitching , get a life scrub

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  • It is funny how everything you have mentioned about Defiance's downfall is what people are complaining about on the forums this very moment. Quite a coincidence no? Considering how much they have in common. If you really need to resort to name calling like a kid to support your argument, your argument cant be all that good now can it?

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  • Again you have not completed all the endgame content so I don't get your og post , your statements have no validity , your numbers are based off a very small number of people on the fourms , your stupid cause you again fail to see that this game sold 500 million worth of shiny disc ..... Yet your poll of 3800 speaks for millions, 74% my ass . If you hate it so much why are you even on here ? Why haven't you sold the game yet , mr. Destiny just sucks it has no story or content ..... You haven't even done the content , how in the hell would you know?

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  • If you are implying that I should wait years until they are finished with Destiny to finally review it, I'm laughing. Dont be absurd, nothing is reviewed that way. I would be willing to do a progressive review but the later results do not contradict my earlier ones, the earlier ones would simply be more relevant. Again you say my numbers aren't relevant but for a sample size it is easily large enough to be usable and relevant. Regardless of the size of a population. Also I have the data to support my claim which is far more than what you have. Titanfall sold well too, but was it a great game overall? No. The point is my poll may not be perfect, but it does give a indication of what the real number will be. Regardless of how you see it.

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  • Sell the game quit playing it , end of story

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  • Stay in school, you need it.

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  • I'm 30 years old and work for the largest privately held company in the United States , go play some odd word , that's more your style kid

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  • Being in a large company is not any measure of intelligence, perhaps your position or qualifications would be more supportive of your claim. I could claim to work at the largest chain in the world but still work at McDonalds or something similar. Maybe you may have some claim to logistics but considering your inability to even recognize statistical data as a sample set(and its inherent value) it wouldn't be a position you studied for to become qualified.

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  • Edited by Nick Peck: 9/18/2014 3:34:16 PM
    First off, did they say " we promise" after all of these promises people keep mentioning? :p Also, I have been playing games for 3 decades, I knew going into Destiny what type of game it is. I KNEW that this is just the base of a new franchise that will be built upon for years to come. I also don't expect everything the second I want it as I know it will take time to see new content and updates. I'm realistic, most "gamers" today are not, at all. "sure it plays well but it simply gives consumers an absolutely astounding lack of content", you are implying that it gives ALL buyers a lack of content which is why I said don't speak for everyone. There is plenty to keep you busy with and plenty more content on the way. I have and have played every Halo to death so I know and love Bungies work so I'm well aware of what they are capable of. But unlike you, I have no issues with what I'm playing, the game works and plays great. Now sure, I wouldn't argue with having some more strikes to do, but like I said before, I know it's coming so I'll just have to wait. No biggie. Also, you do know they are unlocking things right? Like a few more things in Sept, some more in Oct and more down the road. Also, I don't bother reading most complaints as many of them are ridiculous (not saying yours are). The issue usually is, is that people build up this game in THIER HEADS to being this magnificent god like thing that you couldn't wait for, to then play the game and then get upset that it didn't meat your unrealistic expectations. Do yourself a favor in the future, don't read or watch everything about a game you are looking forward to until launch day and see if it's a better experience for you. People spoil games in their heads before they play them, going into said games with a negative attitude and then end up making themselves not like it. This is nothing new. Either enjoy what you have to play or don't, trade it in and walk away, or be patient and wait for the better stuff that is coming.

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  • Well please tell me because you skipped it, did they say I promise with any of the future content you are referring to? You say you knew what this game was coming into it from prior video game experience. But that really doesn't excuse the game or the state of any of its features. You can speak as condescendingly as you wish and imply that I am being impatient however myself and many others didn't buy into Destiny simply to be told that the quality content we paid for would be delivered at a later date. It isn't acceptable, as an investor in video game start ups this simply isn't good enough and considering what games like Star Citizen are set to achieve in a few years from now with half the budget, Destiny is a complete and total joke in comparison. Sure people can like the content, but that doesn't mean that there is a lot of content in the game or that what is there is good. I didn't build Destiny up in my head as you can read from my post which I linked. The game is simply disappointing an falls far beneath expectations. I'm simply calling them out for it.

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  • So when star citizen comes out and it's not what you expected what then , your post had no validity too it . I as a gamer knew what destiny was going to be , guess you didn't see any of the bungie press releases in the past two years up to last Tuesday when the game came out .do us all a favor and just sell the disc

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  • When Star Citizen fails huh? Sure it could fail but considering the investment it has brought in from consumers who are seeking quality content that is more and more unlikely. Also the previews into the games engine and the transparently into the development of the game ensures that is incredibly unlikely. I also did follow Destiny for pretty much the whole 2 years and they promise more content later on. However that doesn't excuse next to such a massive lack of content at launch.

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  • seriously. People list off random complaints that often contradict each other followed by "The game plays really well." Which should be the most important factor in determining the strength of a game.

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  • Edited by 101WaysToBeBronze: 9/18/2014 3:28:47 PM
    You serious? Should I point out the fact that you just admitted even though a game plays really well it is not the most important factor for determining the value of the game. By saying that you believe it should. Let that sink in. Also I do list complaints but they are hardly random or mutually exclusive. Simply because a game can have tight controls but still have a terrible story, a game can look great but have a lackluster loot system, a game can have cool enemies and stupid AI. If you can understand my point, it really is that you don't have one.

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  • Why did you think this was a story game ? Go read a book if you want a good story , next you'll go on to say cod or diablo have great stories , I bet you watch jersey shore and Hanna Montana re runs as well , bungie not once ever said or alluded to destiny being a story game.

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