Interesting that a game aimed at people interested in joining a team/clan, as you put it, would provide zero tools in game to facilitate formation or management of teams or clans. Interested in joining a clan? Go to the website. Interested in starting a clan? Go to the website. Want to recruit people you played with in-game? Send them to the website. Want to voice chat with people in your clan? Add them to your psn friends list. It's ridiculous to be so complacent with this total absence of functionality. They don't even have the bare bones in place.

It is interesting I suppose. Not that they don't have in-game support of clans, but interesting that after the weeks or possibly even months that Bungie spent overhauling their website to make it fully functional for lookup of characters and interaction that people are complaining about coming to this amazing website to get something done. While I generally enjoy the console community more than the PC community it absolutely boggles my mind how lazy you all are and how you refuse to take advantage of the amazing tools given to you. You consider me complacent? I consider you a whining child. Good luck finding a gaming community to join with that mentality, I doubt they'd even want you because most clans want you to go to their....wait for it...WEBSITE and actually apply and communicate. Honestly you people find anything to complain about. It's ridiculous.

The website is not part of the game. Not everyone on my friends list even has a PC at home. It's incredibly lazy to expect people who buy your game to leave your game to fully enjoy it.

I fundamentally disagree. The PC argument would be very valid if they hadn't gone through the trouble of making mobile apps so literally everyone could access forums and the website. I'm not fully but fairly sure that it's called the companion app because it's meant to be used as a companion to the game. None of the laziness here is coming from Bungie.

The website, forums, app. They should not be needed to play, enjoy, this game. I have never seen anything like this. I think ( know ) many of us are wondering why. This game lacks the in game tools to team up, meet new people, even learn more about the story ( grimoires ). At best it's a lack luster attempt. Why? Did they spend all that money on these outside devices? They can't afford, don't know how to create these tools? I have been playing FF14 ARR. Everything you need is in the game. You don't need an outside device to enjoy it. It came out before Destiny. I bought into the hype that BUNGIE was promoting. " The Tower is the social hub " "alive and changing world" Wow, it's not. I wait to see if they add some of what we have been suggesting. They don't have to change your game. Just add to it. You mentioned websites. Yes, some gaming clans have them. I joined one in FF14. Its a European player base. Their definition of clan includes other games. They get together on many different games. It is not a necessity. It's optional. We can communicate in FF14. All of us. Good hunting!

You've never seen anything like this? Oh, that couldn't be due to the fact that Bungie has been trying their damnest to give you all a unique gaming experience that's different from all of the other games you play all day every day could it? This game doesn't lack the in-game tools for jack, because the companion app was literally CREATED to be a side by side experience with the game. Just as you actively went and joined a gaming group everyone else could have and when it comes down to it the people complaining about the social aspect of the game are people that are too lazy to join a gaming group. Period. There are hundreds possibly even thousands of clans right over in #Clans that are recruiting all day and all night. If you have the time to post in #Destiny complaining then you had the time to post in #Clans and join a gaming group (Not you specifically, I just mean the general player complaining about the social aspect of the game.) I understand to a certain extent what people are saying. Yes, it would be more convenient to SOME for there to be an in-game feature for clans. But for most, especially clans that have already set themselves up and been taking advantage of the [i]amazing[/i] website that people keep refusing to use (except to complain about the lack of tools apparently). My argument is simply this: If you don't like the tools that were made and given to you, then don't use them. But do not waste everyone else's time by acting like the tools don't exist. There are ways to suggest things without coming across like a whining brat and a lot of people on b.net don't understand that. Sorry for the wall of text, I'm just trying to get my point across and understood. Happy Hunting bro!

NP. It's the " outside device " that gets me. All the bells and whistles are not in the game. Give me one? Just a bell, one bell. Ring, ring, ringelie! Let's see what they do. The gameplay is solid, I'm having fun. The potential for this game is amazing.

And that's the type of feedback I can respect. I feel like the Devs would be much more likely to listen to the feedback of someone that is actually playing and enjoying the game but would like to point out a few points for improvement than the person getting on forums and trashing the game as a whole because of an aspect that they were under the impression had already been handled. If nothing else I want there to be SOME type of in-game clan feature just to stop some of the whining. I'm also in agreement with majority of the community that we should have some type of proximity chat to make it easier to communicate with people in your area

Let's say Im at the tower picking up a bounty and that bounty wants me to do a specific strike mission. Chances are someone else may have pick up the same area bounty. it would be a hell of a lot easier to announce, "hey who else is doing the strike bounty?", instead of going online posting then seeing who responds. that's not being lazy that's just something you shouldn't have to do