Dude it's a joke I own a sig 9mm, an H&K mp5 .22, a sig 556, a glock .45, and a benelli m4.

Okay let's look at gun violence in America compared to Australia (just using as an example, can be any firearm regulated country). Gun crime has the highest death rate in the nation where a vast majority of all the murders and such are by the use of firearms. Australian statistics (legitimate government based stastics): In 2003, fewer than 16 per cent of homicides involved firearms. down from a high of 44 per cent in 1968. American statistics (Again seemingly legitimate sources): there were 12,664 murders in the US -2011-. Of those, 8,583 were caused by firearms. I ran the calculations which make it 67.8% of homicidal crime. You do the math, those numbers are ludicrously high. I'll even post my sources in case you think I'm just making stuff up. Hope you have a great day and attempt to abolish the ignorant view you have on real life problems. :) Sources: http://www.aph.gov.au/About_Parliament/Parliamentary_Departments/Parliamentary_Library/pubs/BN/0708/FirearmsAustralia http://www.theguardian.com/news/datablog/2011/jan/10/gun-crime-us-state

Snugz , you know what's the beauty of having a right to do something? You don't have to justify it to a single soul! There isn't enough time for me to explain why the Second Amendment to the U.S. Constitution is so vitally important to freedom. Hint, it's the second most important constitutional amendment, second only to the Right of Free Speech. Also, don't let the fact that over 200 million people in the last century died after they were disarmed dissuade you in the least bit. America's third President Thomas Jefferson said it best, "I prefer dangerous freedom over peaceful slavery."

So you would rather just turn a blind eye to a very serious issue throughout your country just so you can be a firearm enthusiast? Are you really so vain as to just not giving a -blam!- that the incredible ease to acquiring and using a firearm for illegal purposes. I would rather not see people getting killed when it can be so easily prevented. Percentages don't lie. When you have the clear cut evidence that you could prevent the death of somebodies family just by REGULATING guns. We still have legal guns here in Australia. We aren't so stupid to ban them completely as that is infact removing the freedom of personal interest. We can still get guns and it seems the general populace are content with what they can acquire. Do you seriously need to fill your shed with 20+ firearms just to stroke that massive ego? The argument used that guns don't kill people, people kill people is just ignorance. Yes people kill other people but when the access to such deadly force is so easily given it pains me to see how anyone can justify it. There is a difference between safety and slavery. But might I add that we are essentially already slaves? The government expects you to get an education and then get a job where you contribute to society. They allow you the freedom to live your life. But how can you live when these days the soul focus is around those paper notes tucked inside your wallet? You are essentially forced to become a slave to society so that you can survive. How often do you hear people hating their jobs? Suicide is at an all time high in history. People can't take the pressure being forced upon them by those in power and end their lives. People rob and steal because sometimes there isn't enough opportunity for everyone to make something of themselves and succeed. They struggle and then get left behind and fall into a life of crime, which is where guns come back into it. Why allow someone who has the mindset, "I've really got nothing to lose" and use those easily accessible firearms to commit crimes and potentially murder. Your patriotism is blinding you. Yes America is entitled to do whatever they want within reason and their citizens as well. But why allow such dangerous weaponry to be purchased by anyone who is 18 and can get a gun license in a matter of weeks. Then they can buy all the guns they want. And with the steady decline of society with people not even bothering to educate themselves properly, our future will only be filled with more people with that same mindset, "I've got nothing to lose". Think about the logic behind it all. It's much harder to kill people without guns. The only other common homicidal methods are through blades and blunt objects. Both which require much more desire and intent to actually proceed with the crime. All you need to do is pull a trigger and you have ripped someones life away from them. You can shoot a gun more easily then shooting a basketball. Just a short range 9mm handgun has more potential to kill then a blade or baseball bat. So I genuinelly think that you are being incredibly insensitive to humans in general. Why else would people in America put -blam!-ing bars over their windows for protection? Because your country is the most domestically firearm violent first world country there is.

You believe you have a moral high ground from which to denounce gun ownership. That is your opinion. Do you know where gun crimes are highest in the U.S.? In cities where law abiding citizens are restricted from owning them. That is a fact. In the county in which I live, 25% of the residents have carry concealed weapons permits.The highest percentage in the state. Our crime rate is far below the rest of the state and the national average. In 2009 during the real estate and banking crash, my town was forced to shut down our local police department to save money. Not only did our crime rate NOT increase, but in fact it declined. Our county sheriff attributed that decline to the high percentage of lawfully armed citizens in the county. This would not make sense to you as you are locked into an anti-gun mindset. If you hate gun owners, and Americans, this becomes an inconvenient fact to handle. Here in the U.S. we do not have a revolving door constitution that changes at the whim of our politicians. Americans' individual right to keep and bear arms has been recently upheld by our Supreme Court in at least two major cases recently, so that right isn't going away any time soon. Being condescending and insulting won't score points in this discussion.

Fine while I admit I am getting a little hotheaded in this discussion, I can understand your point. But I support life. And when I see that peoples lives can so easily be protected just through slightly stricter laws won't hurt the people who really do enjoy firearms while reducing the rate of casualties and fatalities from them. The harder they are to get, the safer citizens will be. People can still acquire them with effort and correct procdures, but it just pains me that I hear of so many guncrimes commited in the US far more then any other country. I don't hate firearm users or Americans. I work with an extremelly friendly American firearm enthusiast. And my former neighbours also had licenses for firearms. But my point isn't the fact that the general populace who ARE sensible with them. My point is 100% directed to those who aren't. Which is going to increase as the years go by with people wanting to get -blam!-ed up on drugs every -blam!-ing weekend and throw their life in the gutter.

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