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Edited by Recon Number 54: 5/16/2014 4:40:20 PM
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Blaming the inanimate object or substance for the "evils it causes" is a very human, but not very logical (or effective) method of reducing "the problem". Attempting to write laws that curtail the availability, access or use of the inanimate object will only serve to "keep the honest people honest". It's like locking your front door. If someone is intent on getting into your house, no law and no lock is going to deter or stop them. The object/substance doesn't "by itself" cause the harm. It is the misuse, abuse, or criminal use of it that does. While some would say "we just need to make the consequences of misuse, abuse or criminal use more severe and that will solve the problem", I can see the point, but disagree that it is the "solution". People already know that in many locations, the penalty and potential outcome of the crime of murder could be the death penalty or life imprisonment. That may give SOME people pause and prevent them from acting on a murderous impulse, but we can see that the laws and the known consequences don't eliminate the crime, the loss, the harm that some people are willing to cause, even with those risks/consequences clearly known. The real issue and question is "How to we get more people to be "good people"?" And that is a question that has been asked for thousands of years. If anyone has a good a workable answer? I know an entire planet that would be eager to hear it. Late Edit: I have been on a Ken Burns kick lately on Netflix. His film on Prohibition was wonderful and I would wholeheartedly recommend that anyone who is interested in the subject of "legislating morality for the common good" watch it. http://www.netflix.com/WiMovie/70281600?strkid=1587548258_0_0&trkid=222336&movieid=70281600
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  • Edited by M37h3w3: 5/16/2014 5:17:34 PM
    The laws do allow us to punish those that commit the crimes though. It would be bad enough if they stole your stuff, worse yet if they didn't get into any trouble for it. [quote]And that is a question that has been asked for thousands of years. If anyone has a good a workable answer? I know an entire planet that would be eager to hear it.[/quote] [url=http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/06/24/article-2163817-13BFA72B000005DC-326_634x410.jpg]Brainwashing. Brainwashing and propaganda from an early age.[/url] It works when you're trying to demonize an enemy. Logically it can work if you're trying to build an upstanding citizen. Problem is of course that the person you're building can quickly be flipped from good to "evil" at the instructors whim. Not to mention that we're creating an illusion of freedom and choice by controlling a person from the day they are born. Even after they are under their own recognizance, they are still bound by the rules we made their brain construct.

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  • [quote]The real issue and question is "How to we get more people to be "good people"?" [/quote] Redefining what makes a person "good" seems like a decent starting point.

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  • [quote][quote]The real issue and question is "How to we get more people to be "good people"?" [/quote] Redefining what makes a person "good" seems like a decent starting point.[/quote] Getting people to agree on any definition (new or old) is the difficulty.

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  • I don't see why the definition need be anything other than somebody who doesn't interfere in somebody else's affairs in a coercive manner. Anything on top is just gravy.

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