If you have nothing nice to say, don't say anything at all. You're entitled to your opinion, but what you have said isn't, in my opinion, adding to the discussion of the thread or the purpose of such. It's only out of respect for Tom and MsCadet that I'm not raging over the keyboard. There's a time for your opinion, and this thread isn't that time.

What are you suggesting? That we just tell the people with non-terminal illnesses to simply suffer in silence while we deal with the "big" problems first?

Quoted from other side of story: "Your heart is still beating, your nerves are still firing impulses, you’re alive. But you’re not living." Imagine for a moment that the room you are sitting in right now has suddenly become a vacuum. All the aspirations you might have in life, all you consider important, it suddenly seems less so. This post for example, you no longer have inclination to respond, while in a state of frantic panic, moving about the room trying to find a pocket of air. Being alive by scientific definition is not enough. With basic needs met we become more of what makes us human. If the one thing we all take for granted, our physical health, fails, then so too does our ability to be our true complete selves. We are to some extent reduced, physically or mentally, to that frantic state described above. But our true self is still there (with perhaps more perspective, appreciating what others do not). A vacuum is a vacuum. Suffering is suffering. And if we can provide air, regardless of the what or why, I believe we should, so that more may do the good in the world that they are capable, and spend a life living, not a life dying.

I understand what you are saying, but I still view life as more important because you are essentially saying "those that are dead can still accomplish something." The dead are dead and will never come back along with never being able to do what they wanted in the future. Those that are living in pain have a choice. They can either as you said for the most par stay there suffering and do nothing or they can attempt to continue their dreams. The latter is the hard route and is something only the strong will do the former is something a lot of people will do. You are essentially acting like all that suffer are incapable of accomplishing something. There are many people that have diseases that speak out and raise awareness. All of which you can't do if you are dead. If you want me to imagine something I don't have to I have seen how my family has changed I don't need to imagine it.

[u]Personally[/u] I think you should grow up. ;)

How so I think there are more worthwhile charities out there? Sure it sucks to be in pain, but preventing death is far more important imo than preventing pain. There are tons of pain meds out there for such things. Death on the other hand there is nothing that can bring a person back and as a result I view things like that as a higher priority. To my knowledge for doing the little research I did on endometriosis it is it life threatening at all and as a result is a waste of effort to provide money to in comparison to other organizations that help prevent life threatening diseases/conditions. So yeah you can tell me to grow up, but the fact is I value life more than some pain which personally I think is more mature. Now you can argue I am being an ass or something like that, but the fact is I am just stating what I view is more important.

Everyone is free to state their own opinions like both you and I did and are doing. I think that every human condition should have a chance at being cured no matter what the pains and effects are. I'm sure you wouldn't be saying what you're saying if you or someone you knew lives in pain their entire life. I don't wont to argue over charities.. I actually work for one. At least the money is going where it's needed.

I do agree everyone should have a chance to get cured. However I view live more important than some suffering. [quote]I'm sure you wouldn't be saying what you're saying if you or someone you knew lives in pain their entire life. [/quote] Regarding this I view it as extremely disrespectful and insensitive of you or anyone else that assumes they have the knowledge to know what other's or their family members are going through. Considering both my brother and sister suffer from a disease that is incurable and could have resulted in their deaths before both were hospitalized at one point in the past and can easily be hospitalized in the future. Along with my sister suffering from pain on an almost daily basis and my brother suffering here and there from pain. Then with them having a very strict diet. If you want to act like I don't know about life or about suffering you are sadly mistaken. When you almost lose people that are very important in your life you learn very fast that daily suffering is a terrible thing, but at least they are still with you. Then with having to watch both my grandparents die painful deaths as a result of cancer I know very well the deference between pain and death. So next time you say something like this maybe just maybe you should realize you don't know anything about the person you are talking to because guess what I have been in that situation. Then at the end of the day there is absolutely nothing I can do to change their situation. Sure we can say charities and organizations are nice, but that doesn't mean a "cure" will be provided. There are tons of diseases out there that will never get enough funding in order to even make such a thing remotely possible at least not in our lifetime. At the end of the day the only thing I can do is stand by and help them when I am needed. Even with all of that I still say what I do because I believe a chance at life is more important than having to go through it suffering. The only exception I will say to this would be in regards to people that are around 70-80+ years old and even then that is debatable.

I found your first post highly disrespectful however I replied in a friendly manor (used a smily face to show that) and yet you keep continuing this conversation just for the sake of it. I said I didn't want to argue. We could talk about this all day, neither are right or wrong because they are out own thoughts and ideas. Lets leave it at that. -Arbitor5

I respect your opinion, but I have to point this out: There is NO such thing as preventing death. I believe in preventing suffering. Whether the cause is eventually terminal or not.

Depends on what you mean by preventing death. I will agree we will all die at some point and it will most likely be filled with pain and suffering. Since most people that die of old age rarely go out without pain at least from my experiences. Then if you don't die from old age there are tons of other ways to die that are again most likely painful. That is the world we live in. Now by prevent death I just mean prolong the inevitable which is what research does do. It can help people that were going to die in a month die in a year or two if not die in 10+ years. Then for the reason I mentioned above about people dying in pain is one of the main reasons why I view the prevention of suffering as not really all that important. On top of there being tons of pain medication out there preventing pain by trying to come up with a cure for something like the OP raised money for is pointless imo. Now sure you can argue the whole "people shouldn't have to suffer" thing or something like that, but as I mentioned already life is full of suffering both physical and mental so it is best to get used to it.