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1/11/2013 10:14:38 PM
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One man's story of socialised healthcare.

So: I woke up Tuesday morning with chest pains and I was struggling to breathe properly, but being a typical Brit I thought "ah its probably just a pulled muscle, I dont want to bother anyone, im sure itll get better". Well, it didnt get much better, the pain diminished slightly but by Thursday I was really struggling to breathe. A quick call to NHS Direct led me to the point that, yeah, okay I really need to get down to A&E. I got down there at 6.55pm and the A&E process began. Since I had chest pains I was seen by the triage nurse really quickly (within 10 mins) ahead of other people - first rule of triage: treat the most serious cases first - I then had a quick ECG with a second nurse. By 8.45 pm I saw the doctor who had my ECG results, listened to my chest, and suspected a pneumothorax (or collapsed lung as we laymen call it). This is where things got really impressive IMO. The Doctor himself wheeled me down to X-ray (yeah, i got my own wheelchair! :P ), I had a chest X-ray, and within 5 minutes they had the picture up on screen and yep - I had a collapsed lung! 70% of the left side of my chest cavity was full of air - bloody hell!! The same Doctor then wheeled me down to the Resuscitation ward, hooked me up to the monitors and everything and handed me over to the Resus Doctor. It cant have been much after 9.15pm at this stage. I was hooked up to heart monitors, blood pressure monitors, oxygen supply, a line into my arm for meds, ECG wires the works! then I was informed of the treatment - a large needle through the chest to extract the air! Again within 5 minutes I had a Dr and a nurse with me, performing the procedure. I wont go into the details of what that felt like, but they pulled out 2 pints of air from my chest! Another chest x-ray half an hour later to check that it had fixed the problem showed that it had infact worked and i was back to normal. Another half hour of monitoring without the oxygen and that was it - you can go home! It was about 11.30pm. So in less than 5 hours I had been admitted, tested, diagnosed, treated, tested again, and released! Fantastic service!! It also made me think of our American cousins - the same thing would have cost a US citizen many thousands of dollars. I had seen 4 nurses, 3 Doctors, an x-ray technician, had an oxygen mask, had my own bed, had two ECG's, 2 chest X-rays, blood pressure monitors, and an invasive procedure - all for free! Personally, I think we are quite lucky to have the NHS, even with its faults, when it comes down to it, they know what they are doing and can do it very well tl:dr admitted to hospital with a collapsed lung, saw 4 nurses, 3 Doctors, had my own bed, two ECG's, 2 chest X-rays, an invasive procedure, and discharged all in 5 hours and it didnt cost me a penny on the day. The NHS may not be perfect, but it should be remembered just how good the system can be. EDIT: thanks for the comments guys. It also seems like Ive started a bit of a debate about the efficiency of the NHS system. This story is just my personal experience that i felt needed to be shared because the media loves to concentrate on particular cases of poor performance. I am not claiming that the NHS is perfect. maybe i got lucky......who knows. Either way, im just glad to be cured and no longer in pain. This is one of the many reasons that socialized healthcare is simply better. Sure, for non-urgent things it's not all that amazing, but for the most urgent cases; it's -blam!-ing fantastic. Why doesn't your country have social healthcare, Flood?

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  • Yep the NHS isn't perfect but it is pretty handy. Here's my story; -Broke my arm -Doctors fixed it -Went home

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  • I would literally be thousands in debt if it wasn't for our wonderful healthcare system here in the UK. The only people opposing are the americans who believe it's better that their taxes are spent on ridiculous amounts of weaponry to be used against a couple of farmers with AK's.

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  • One little problem, buddy: It wasn't free. Somebody paid for it. Considering the clear expense, and how eager you are to jump away from it, I would say that you probably couldn't afford it, or that you wouldn't want to spend the money on healthcare. That being said, you're really just tossing off your expenses to the next guy. Now, is that really fair?

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    • [quote]Why doesn't your country have social healthcare, Flood?[/quote]Because Republicans

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    • "Hey, honey. Why in the world is our bill so high?" "It's the flu season, honey." "But we haven't gotten sick." "We're socialist, remember?" "Oh."

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    • Canadian here, haven't had any experience with the system really, pretty glad about it. But I'm just going to say, free healthcare isn't really free in Canada, there are a lot of things you have to pay for.

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    • Yeah... if that happened to me I'd have to drop out of college for a term or more. Which I'm worried about right now, because I think I broke my foot...

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      • Edited by OaklandPaintbalr: 1/11/2013 11:57:49 PM
        > Dual Swedish-American citizenship Health care is nationalized in Sweden. Swedes pay slightly more in taxes, but the quality of the health care is far superior. It's ranked one of the best in the world, far ahead of America. Now, that being said, America is far bigger than it's European counterparts. We have to consider the population differences when considering nationalized health care, IE How many people paying taxes VS people total in the system. A system for 9.5 million people may not work for 330 million people

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        • Yeah, Murrica why you have such communism paranoia? I heard somewhere that many US-citizens think Europe is like socialist hell or something. lol

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        • Sorry, Im already taxed enough. You want good healthcare? Get a job.

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          • I have had 7 years of treatment for something I have and honestly in America I would not be able to afford the treatment and my family would be on the streets or something because of my treatment. Thank god for the NHS.

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            • I'm awaiting your answer son.

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            • This isn't his story. He stole it from Reddit.

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              • Don't you technically have [i]nationalized [/i]health care?

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                • Edited by Hoggs Bison: 1/11/2013 10:31:14 PM
                  In the US? States' rights. Those who are against the PPACA, for example, are primarily against a [i]federal[/i] healthcare mandate. Individual states, however, can do as they please (see: Massachusetts). Look at other controversial issues in politics today. Gun laws, marijuana legalization, gay marriage, different states have different laws with respect to those issues. But even the most anti-whatever activists don't say states shouldn't have the [i]right[/i] to enact those laws. Being against mandates coming from a federal level doesn't have to mean you're taking a stand on the issue itself; you just have a fundamental problem with the federal government doing what you think should be left to states. In general, Americans favor a federal government that minds its own damn business thank you very much*. States should be able to handle their own affairs, while the federal government, which unites the states of America, deals with ensuring their prosperity in terms of dealing with other nations. The times when people actually like mandates that come from Washington are few and far between. If Biden announces a federal ban on assault weapons or high-capacity magazines, at least some hell is going to break loose. *Also the reason why the idea of paying more in federal taxes isn't too desirable; if people wanted the federal government to be more active, they would be willing to fund it.

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                  • With all the surgery i had i would off been the poorest man on the planet if i had to pay for it. So im happy with the NHS

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                  • Adding lines between some of the paragraphs will make it easier to read.

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                    • My country does. :D

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                    • Too long didn't read.

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