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3/14/2007 5:58:40 AM
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The 7th Column, The Community, It's Guy, and The Lack There Of

[b]The 7th Column, The Community, It's Guy, and The Lack There Of[/b] [i]Let me begin by saying what follows is not my rant, but as I agree with most of it I believe it should be posted. If I am wrong for this then I will recieve my just 'reward' but it must be said. I will not reveal the identity of said ranter for his own privacy reasons. Enjoy! *note: This was written before the announcement of the new Bungie.net*[/i] Part 1: You asked for this. Here goes. :3 Let me commence by stating that the problem with the Bungie.net community is deep rooted. I don’t like to blame the web team with any scathing conviction because they have provided the site that, at least formerly, hosted a really good community. However, SketchFactor apparently gave up even before the “upgraded” column was implemented – he was after all the Community Guy whose responsibilities, theoretically, included the interaction with the good persons of the Seventh Column. I was never around too long before the change so I have no grounds on which to argue that he was ever actively involved, but the fact of that matter is that when I and some of my friends submitted our chapters for approval (as was the former custom), he accepted them. The spotlight, too, had been fairly frequently updated. I understand that there are slightly higher concerns than a thriving community of well-mannered, Bungie-loving individuals – the professional needs for a sleek site with job offers and interaction with Halo 2, for example. It’d be ignorant in the extreme to pretend said necessities do not exist. But how many times have we been told that Bungie.net is not a business site – it’s a community site? The answer, should you wonder, is very often indeed. I’ll be up front and admit that some of the things done with the site are amazing, not least the full integration of the various modules as one easy-to-navigate conglomeration. I’ve always liked the forums as they, in my opinion at least, look the part, and are so very easy to use. There’s no unnecessary formatting; you just hit reply or new topic, type what you want, and hit submit. Nothing could be simpler. Since I’d never used a forum before that time, it was the perfect way to get started. Also engaging was the Seventh Column. An invite from a prominent founder via Private Message introduced me to it, and it was excellent: lots of databases and plenty of room for personalisation and creativity, plus scope for organising chapter-wide events. This little communities thrived as one and interacted with one another publicly, also, where great friendships were made and inter-chapter events established. In fact, that was the purpose of the 7th Column Community Page, which died at about the same time as the Spotlight and news. Priorities seem to be wrong, also. I refuse to believe that a search feature – and repeat threads will surface, especially in the absence of constant new discussion material and in the presence of the ridiculous “don’t dig up old threads” regulation – is more crucial to a community site than the community itself. Surely resources would have been better spent on the 7th Column in one way or another. And so many empty promises. Nobody expects miracles, but when fanfests, an updated column, more interaction from Bungie and a community that has official support are pledged, it’s saddening when they are not fulfilled, and more so when they simply fade away without even a “no, that’s not going to happen”. I wouldn’t will them all to attend massive fan gatherings, because, let’s face it, no other game developers do, but the fact that it’s happened before and future events were promised makes it that little bit worse. I’d much rather see a fantastic Halo 3 than direct community interaction, as I’m sure we all would, but surely the purpose of a site for the community and Bungie’s having of a community team is to interact with their fans? But Bungie is just the core, the very heart of a system composed of many more organs, blood, bones and flesh. [Edited on 3/13/2007]

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  • Wow. Just way too much yellow for me here. I read everything but I swear I am tired and I cannot fit all this in. So I will just touch on the things I can remember. [*][u]TFM[/u] - Great group of guys. I don't know all of them but for the most part they are very tight knit and freely speak their minds on subjects they feel strongly about. From what I can tell is when one of their own disagrees the accept it and move on. Quite frankly if you don't like them just ignore them. I think it would be what they want anyways. [*][u]Bungie Jumpers[/u] - Myself and a slew of other Ninjas are a part of this group. Basically I find it as a great place where we treat each other as group of [b]normal people[/b]. Just because some of us are mods holds [b]no weight[/b] at all in there. I find it very refreshing to be in a place where I don't have to worry about every little thing I say. To touch on the TFM part there are many of them in there as well. The same holds true for how they treat us as they do each other. Sometimes it can seem like we are brash but in the end you must realize that in there you must fire back and stand your ground. If you do not show some backbone you will run off thinking we are all just mean guys. I can't speak for them but it does seem to me that people who are not afraid to speak there mind and stand up for themselves do survive in the Jumpers. One last point on this part. You also need to read the home page. Granted it is in Latin but it does say "Abandon all hope to ye who enter." If that doesn't tell you what you might be in for then I don't what will. [*][u]Jay and Jeff[/u] - What can I say. They can come off as brash, arrogant, rude, and they will more than likely say something that gets under your skin. I love them for it. They speak up for what they believe in and hold true to it. I commend them for it. I don't know them as well as the rest of the guys in TFM and Jumpers do but I can say that if you gain their respect then you will have a great pair of people to have fun. I just need to find time to play with them more. [*][u]The Spartan Bruce thread[/u] - To me it was just (how to put this).....oh yeah it was -blam!- hilarious. I have never laughed so hard reading a thread on this site. Did it get out of hand? Yes it did. Was it taken care of? Yes it was. Now get over it. [*][u]The moderator stuff[/u] - I don't even no where to begin with this one. Apparently the mod class of '07 broke the Septagon today. Too many threads about moderators and they are starting to seem like it was because of our actions. I for one could care less if I became a mod. Now I will say I was gigdy when I got it because it was a cool new thing and of course now I could help make the forums a better place. I knew it was going to be hard but some of the stuff you cannot prepare for. Now as I learn and grow in my new role I am getting more comfortable with my duties. As for the picking of mods all I can say is meh. They are picked on criteria that Achronos has set down and the other mods give their feedback to who they think will make a good one. Achronos has the final say in the matter. I cannot comment on the other mods who have stepped down. That was between them and Achronos and is of no concern to me. Now I cannot remember what else I wanted to touch on. Too much at once I suppose or my old age as some would have me believe. Oh well. I guess if I remember anything else I can post it later. Oh and any moderator problems can always be traced back to Cam. I have no proof of this but it is my story and I am sticking to it.

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