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Why isnt Halo 4 as fun as Reach?

Im one of the minority who actually thought, From an MP standpoint mind you, That Halo Reach was a great game, I adored it in fact, Much better than Halo 3's -blam!- MP (Again, I know thats not an opinion shared by most of you, But anyway) Halo 4 just doesnt hold my attention as much, Dont get me wrong its a great game but it just lacks... I dont know, While playing it I just feel like its not something I can do for a long period of time any more, Reach was far more fun and exciting and just generally entertaining. What the hell is Halo 4 missing?
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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Hoggs Bison On the multiplayer front? -Maps -Gametypes -Spawning with precision rifles -DMR -Boltshot -Customizable loadouts in general -Ordnance -Weapon drops on map -Sprint[/quote]I like all of these things

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Cybil [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Spirit of Ember [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Cybil ...Ember what would you say if I told you I dont know how to play Jacks? *Lays down a bit sadly on the couch* It just sounded like a good idea at the time :c[/quote] Oh, Cybil....That's okay. *Drops Box* *Walks back into closet* *Walks out with Lego tub* 'Cuz who needs Jacks when you got Legos?[/quote]Can we build spaceships Ember? I love spaceships[/quote] Sure! *Fumbles with pocket* I always keep this in handy. *Shows Cybil instructions for building a Lego spaceship* Do you like this design? If not, we could do another.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Spirit of Ember [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Cybil [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Spirit of Ember [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Cybil ...Ember what would you say if I told you I dont know how to play Jacks? *Lays down a bit sadly on the couch* It just sounded like a good idea at the time :c[/quote] Oh, Cybil....That's okay. *Drops Box* *Walks back into closet* *Walks out with Lego tub* 'Cuz who needs Jacks when you got Legos?[/quote]Can we build spaceships Ember? I love spaceships[/quote] Sure! *Fumbles with pocket* I always keep this in handy. *Shows Cybil instructions for building a Lego spaceship* Do you like this design? If not, we could do another.[/quote]That works fine but... Why do you always keep lego spaceship instructions in your pocket?

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Cybil [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Spirit of Ember [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Cybil [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Spirit of Ember [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Cybil ...Ember what would you say if I told you I dont know how to play Jacks? *Lays down a bit sadly on the couch* It just sounded like a good idea at the time :c[/quote] Oh, Cybil....That's okay. *Drops Box* *Walks back into closet* *Walks out with Lego tub* 'Cuz who needs Jacks when you got Legos?[/quote]Can we build spaceships Ember? I love spaceships[/quote] Sure! *Fumbles with pocket* I always keep this in handy. *Shows Cybil instructions for building a Lego spaceship* Do you like this design? If not, we could do another.[/quote]That works fine but... Why do you always keep lego spaceship instructions in your pocket?[/quote] I...I honestly don't know...

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  • Halo 4 is terribad

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  • 343i took everything that sucked about Reach (except armor lock) and expanded on it.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] nightspark 343i took everything that sucked about Reach (except armor lock) and expanded on it.[/quote]I think they should have: -Kept armor abilities, but removed active camo and made it a map pickup just like the good old days of Halo 1,2,&3 -No perks -Loadouts would be preset for each gametype like Reach -Instead of calling in ordinance, infinty slayer would be like Reach's Invasion slayer where you would unlock different tiers of loadouts as your team's score increased -Still keep weapons on the map so you don't frickin run out of ammo for your primaries -No random power weapon spawning. They would be in fixed locations like Halos of the past [Edited on 01.07.2013 6:18 PM PST]

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Spirit of Ember I...I honestly don't know... [/quote]Its weird, But that just makes you cooler.

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  • Halo Reach was fun for me for two or three months, but it's hype died down. Halo 4 just feels, really bland. It doesn't feel like Halo, not like Battlefield, and not like Call of Duty, but not in any good ways. To put it as understandable as I can, it's like the taste of water, though I'd still rank it at about the same level as Reach on the fun scale. My main issues with 4 come from nit-picky things. For instance, not booting you out of zoom when you're shot at (Great for the sniper, but not so much for the sniped). There was great security in knowing that if you popped your attackers then they had to be real lucky, or a great shot to still kill you at long distances. Sound effects in general feel weak, muffled, and too similar to other guns (BR sounding like a tri-shot magnum, the Carbine sounding way too ordinary and not that nice hollow-ripple sound from Halo 2 and 3, and the Storm Rifle just sounding like a pea-shooter, despite it's power, Fuel Rod just sounds like ejecting an empty shell, etc.). However, the AR sounds and feels awesome. 343 finally did the weapon some justice. As for campaign, it's so lack luster that it's worth a whole deconstruction, but I'll spare you the rant. Regardless of these complaints, MP hasn't felt like I have been cheated out of a kill. Okay, time for quick notes. 1. AAs are not game changing, and are generally well balanced with their Pros and Cons. 2.Grenades are no longer [i]Grenukes[/i], major plus. - No picking up grenades? I guess they don't want spammers, but it sucks when I'm stuck with two and only two unless I grab 1 of 2 spawners for them. 3. DMR is way too over used and can feel OP at times, though I see a tweak happening in the future. 4. Unlock system is shallow and is over the top with unlocks straight down to emblems. Come off it, I've been using a certain emblem since Halo 2, and I don't want to wait until I'm rank X to use it... 5. Loadout system is not Halo AT ALL. Faster shield regen, starting with 2 primaries? Is this an arcade shooter or another recycled FPS? 6. What is with the Armor? Looks straight out of GUNDAM, but it's its own game, so I'll leave this be, stepping away from my own preferences. 7. No firefight? Kinda sucks, but with boosting and the inability to recreate the ODST experience, I'm 100% okay with it. If I feel something should be added, I'll edit the post. [Edited on 01.07.2013 6:21 PM PST]

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Cybil [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Spirit of Ember I...I honestly don't know... [/quote]Its weird, But that just makes you cooler.[/quote] Thanks man <3 Well, let's start

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Spirit of Ember [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Cybil [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Spirit of Ember I...I honestly don't know... [/quote]Its weird, But that just makes you cooler.[/quote] Thanks man <3 Well, let's start[/quote]Okay, I need some liney pieces and some brickey pieces.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Cybil [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Spirit of Ember [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Cybil [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Spirit of Ember I...I honestly don't know... [/quote]Its weird, But that just makes you cooler.[/quote] Thanks man <3 Well, let's start[/quote]Okay, I need some liney pieces and some brickey pieces.[/quote] *Grabs tub* Well, here's a line piece.

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  • Halo 4 doesn't have any drama. That's its major problem. All games are easy and forgiving, safe and unremarkable. I can't recall a single exciting game of Halo 4, but I can still recall games of Reach. Reach had its problems but it was a proper Halo game in the sense that games had dramatic moments, tough bits, good bits, glory and defeat. H4 is just the same over and over, and it doesn't matter if you're winning or losing because its just the same safe vanilla blandness.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Spirit of Ember [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Cybil [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Spirit of Ember [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Cybil [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Spirit of Ember I...I honestly don't know... [/quote]Its weird, But that just makes you cooler.[/quote] Thanks man <3 Well, let's start[/quote]Okay, I need some liney pieces and some brickey pieces.[/quote] *Grabs tub* Well, here's a line piece.[/quote]...Can I dump the tub over for easier piece access? We can clean up after, I promise

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  • Because Halo 4 isn't a Halo game.

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  • I agree... Halo Reach had a unique and genuine feel to it. I see Halo 4 as merely an experiment... to see if successful ideas from other popular games can make sense in a Halo setting. On a MP standpoint it feels just pointless, I'm literally wishing I still had my Hard Drive with the Reach Download to play it again (I'm almost a Reclaimer), at least that game knew what it was doing. \ Another reason why I think Halo 4 isn't fun... it's because with how a 'Halo game' has a more constricted set of rules and guidelines in which force the player to abide by for success. By introducing load outs and ordinance drops it throws off the formula for that of something other then what we expect to see from a Halo game.

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  • Because Halo 4 was half-assed while Reach wasn't and Reach still maintained the arena type multiplayer while Halo 4 doesn't. Also, lol QTEs.

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  • 343 has not fixed any of the issues or added the new stuff they promised to add yet. It's 2013 and still no fileshare lol I'm beginning to doubt if we will ever get a real TU to actually add stuff to the game to make it better.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Cybil [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Cybil [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Spirit of Ember [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Cybil [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Spirit of Ember I...I honestly don't know... [/quote]Its weird, But that just makes you cooler.[/quote] Thanks man <3 Well, let's start[/quote]Okay, I need some liney pieces and some brickey pieces.[/quote] *Grabs tub* Well, here's a line piece.[/quote]...Can I dump the tub over for easier piece access? We can clean up after, I promise[/quote] Sure. And don't worry, I'll clean up.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Spirit of Ember Sure. And don't worry, I'll clean up. [/quote]*Happily dumps all my legos into a pile next to us, Grabbing all the brickey and liney pieces I need* Organized things are just more work (You can thank shi-options for my punctuality ;D) [Edited on 01.07.2013 7:00 PM PST]

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Cybil [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Spirit of Ember Sure. And don't worry, I'll clean up. [/quote]*Happily dumps all my legos into a pile next to us, Grabbing all the brickey and liney pieces I need* Organized things are just more work (You can thank shi-options for my punctuality ;D)[/quote] *Grabs pieces* I'll just leave the instructions here. *Sets instructions in the middle of the couch*

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Spirit of Ember [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Cybil [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Spirit of Ember Sure. And don't worry, I'll clean up. [/quote]*Happily dumps all my legos into a pile next to us, Grabbing all the brickey and liney pieces I need* Organized things are just more work (You can thank shi-options for my punctuality ;D)[/quote] *Grabs pieces* I'll just leave the instructions here. *Sets instructions in the middle of the couch*[/quote]*Two flat lego pieces stuck together* Ember help :c

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Cybil [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Cybil [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Spirit of Ember Sure. And don't worry, I'll clean up. [/quote]*Happily dumps all my legos into a pile next to us, Grabbing all the brickey and liney pieces I need* Organized things are just more work (You can thank shi-options for my punctuality ;D)[/quote] *Grabs pieces* I'll just leave the instructions here. *Sets instructions in the middle of the couch*[/quote]*Two flat lego pieces stuck together* Ember help :c[/quote] *Pulls apart Legos* There you go.

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  • Other than horrible maps and a broken Infection/Flood system, Halo 4 was pretty good in my opinion. Sure, it didn't live up to the God-tier MP that Halo 3 had, but it was still a lot better than the -blam!- ass Reach and Halo 2 multiplayer.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Spirit of Ember [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Cybil [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Cybil [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Spirit of Ember Sure. And don't worry, I'll clean up. [/quote]*Happily dumps all my legos into a pile next to us, Grabbing all the brickey and liney pieces I need* Organized things are just more work (You can thank shi-options for my punctuality ;D)[/quote] *Grabs pieces* I'll just leave the instructions here. *Sets instructions in the middle of the couch*[/quote]*Two flat lego pieces stuck together* Ember help :c[/quote] *Pulls apart Legos* There you go.[/quote]Thanks. Can we take pictures of our ships when they're done? :D

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Cybil [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Cybil [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Cybil [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Spirit of Ember Sure. And don't worry, I'll clean up. [/quote]*Happily dumps all my legos into a pile next to us, Grabbing all the brickey and liney pieces I need* Organized things are just more work (You can thank shi-options for my punctuality ;D)[/quote] *Grabs pieces* I'll just leave the instructions here. *Sets instructions in the middle of the couch*[/quote]*Two flat lego pieces stuck together* Ember help :c[/quote] *Pulls apart Legos* There you go.[/quote]Thanks. Can we take pictures of our ships when they're done? :D[/quote] Sure! :D

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