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11/30/2012 2:45:08 AM
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Does having a Christmas Tree in public really offend anyone???
I see this every year that people get offended that there is a Christmas Tree in like a town square, a public office, etc.
It is now becoming more "politically correct" to say happy Holidays and saying "Merry Christmas" is becoming offensive. Isn't that a bit silly?
It amazes me that people actually protest to have Christmas Trees removed from these places saying it offends them. How does a Tree offend you?
[Edited on 11.29.2012 6:45 PM PST]
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I honestly think Christmas should not be regarded as a religious holiday anymore, instead as just a customary festivity. Makes everyone more happy.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Toad117 In today's day and age of butthurt, someone will complain. Doesn't offend me, however.[/quote] This.
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I'm all for separation of church and state, but considering how Christmas trees really no longer have anything to do with the religious aspect of the holiday, I really can't see how someone can complain about them other than just for the sake of complaining. You don't see people -blam!-ing about Jack'O Lanterns, though that could be next.
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I hate the people who find something to complain about, about christmas, I mean hell, its not even really a religious holiday anymore its more of just a holiday. I don't -blam!- celebrate christmas because I believe in some god that someone else doesnt
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] AttilaTheNvn What about SAINT Valentine's Day? Or SAINT Patrick's day? Are those offensive, too?[/quote] Last time I checked neither of those are civic holidays that have government endorsed displays put up around town to celebrate them. At least, that doesn't happen where I live.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] MyNameIsCharlie [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] spartain ken 15 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] MyNameIsCharlie I don't think people are offended that there is a tree, just that there is [i]ONLY[/i] a tree. Put up a Menorah or something too and people will calm down about the trees.[/quote] The thing is Christmas seems to be loosely tied to one belief now-a-days. It is a symbol of the holiday season and traditional to America culture. It is not something meant to offend someone's culture, it is part of the scenery. [/quote] Except for the whole CHRIST in its name and all, with SAINT Nick and all that... Think about it some more. If you were here and the ONLY public holiday was celebrating the faith you weren't in...[/quote] What about SAINT Valentine's Day? Or SAINT Patrick's day? Are those offensive, too?
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] spartain ken 15 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Locke357 Yes, advocating one religion in the absence of others (in the public sphere) is offensive[/quote] No one else is really being exclusivity, everyone has a right to practice and believe what they want. Wouldn't the act of preventing people from celebrating their beliefs be just as if not more offensive than a pine tree with ornaments? [/quote]Nope, people can still celebrate all they want privately, no one is prevented from celebrating anything. Everyone can still follow the respective beliefs without forcing the "predominant" one on others
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] MongotheRed I don't care what anyone says. I'm still going to say Merry Christmas and go about my Christmas business as always.[/quote]
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Cpt Needa If a minority is offended by a Christian belief, the Christian ought to check his privilege and be more culturally sensitive. If a Christian is offended by a minority's belief, he's bigoted, intolerant, and ought to check his privilege. Hooray for political correct behavior![/quote] I'd like examples of both sides of this as I've honestly never seen the second one happen. I also actually haven't seen someone get offended by Christian beliefs, but I have seen people get upset that government money goes towards celebrating one religion's holiday, but not others, as that is a direct violation of the separation of church and state.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] MadMax888 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] OdorousLicense3 Well it shouldn't be lolmuslims roflislam lolObama roflObama[/quote]What the hell is going on in this post?[/quote]MURICA?
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I don't celebrate Christmas for religious reasons, it's just a holiday, and the tree is just a tree, so don't see why it'd upset anyone.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] OdorousLicense3 Well it shouldn't be lolmuslims roflislam lolObama roflObama[/quote]What the hell is going on in this post?
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Well it shouldn't be lolmuslims roflislam lolObama roflObama
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If a minority is offended by a Christian belief, the Christian ought to check his privilege and be more culturally sensitive. If a Christian is offended by a minority's belief, he's bigoted, intolerant, and ought to check his privilege. Hooray for political correct behavior!
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Godshatter [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] A Blind Wolf Would you not be offended if a public place had a satanic ritual on it? [/quote]That would be SWEET![/quote]Agreed.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Squiggy I think we should all resort to saying "Happy Halodays."[/quote]Fine with me. It's a safe catch-all that covers everything people choose to celebrate.
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I think we should all resort to saying "Happy Halodays."
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I only say "Merry Christmas" on Christmas day. Because any other day is not Christmas. Other than Christmas day, I say "happy holidays" which covers everything from Thanksgiving through New Years.
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Personally if someone takes it offensively they need to grow up. I could take their holidays offensively but I don't. So some people need to grow a self esteem.
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Why would I want to change to saying Happy Holidays, rather than saying Merry Christmas? I mean just because someone does not like it they can't expect me to change it!
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] A Blind Wolf Would you not be offended if a public place had a satanic ritual on it? [/quote]That would be SWEET!
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It's the principle of the thing. Christmas is a stolen pagan holiday but since Christians took it over, Christmas is widely considered a religious holiday, and for a public place to endorse a religion in ANY WAY is a violation of the separation between church and state. Would you not be offended if a public place had a satanic ritual on it? [Edited on 11.29.2012 11:12 PM PST]
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It only offends people that want to be offended.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Godshatter I love how holiday trees look. All the lights and stuff, with the little stars at top. Yup, holiday trees are A-OK in my book. [/quote] [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Godshatter [/quote]ZOMG BIASED
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I love how holiday trees look. All the lights and stuff, with the little stars at top. Yup, holiday trees are A-OK in my book.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Lifts Her Tail Never heard of that happening here. [/quote] I've never heard anything like that happen at we're i am too. P.s. who the hell would discuss about offendence by a prop tree?
