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Edited by Recon Number 54:
7/26/2013 5:23:50 PM
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Halo 4 was a downgrade from reach.
Imo (of course)
>No theater for campaign
>No saving full films
>zombies cant hold guns
>thruster pack in zombies
>No campaign scoring
>No firefight
>File share system still doesn't work (most recommended/downloaded)
>Faster kill times
>Horrid UI
>No more credits, armor requires days of grinding
I mean, the actual game is alright and it's got alot of cool new additions but overall, the game is nothing but downgrade from reach. I'm honestly shocked that a developer made up of nothing but "die hard" halo fans could do something so mediocre. Agree? Disagree? If so why?
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] PublicToast Here we go. There are those that said this day would never come.[/quote] I already did that quote a few thousand threads back...
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You guys are so predictable :P
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] SH4D0W0733 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Dragonzzilla Don't compare Reach and Halo 4. Just don't. They're made by different people with different ideals. Slag off if you can accept the process of evolution.[/quote] So that is what it is called now? Evolution? Throwing away well received features used by many, and for what? To give us quicktime events in campaign? Having to cut back at the gameplay in infection by adding a little bit of ''coolness'' to the player design? Are you honestly saying that graphics should come before gameplay, and that mashing buttons in a pattern is a good replacement for the campaign theater mode? That the natural course of game evolution saw these features as obsolete? If so, then I won't even bother to read whatever response you come up with, I do not suffer fools easily.[/quote] Well said. H4 seems to be all style no substance, form over function. We've traded in functionality and options for graphics and the iron-handed approach of 343 force-feeding us their new vision.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] XxhargbeastxX [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] The S bot 9000 >No more credits, armor requires days of grinding[/quote]I personally am glad credits are gone. For me, at least, it took way too much grinding just to get enough credits for a single piece of armor. [/quote] At least it'd let me get armor that I actually liked. All the armor in halo 4 that I think look nice require the masterery of a commendation. Hell, the only one that i've been using is a pre order "hazop forest" one. Amd even then, I only like it due to it's apathetic look.
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[quote]>zombies cant hold guns >Thruster pack in zombies.[/quote] Flood =/= Infection. [quote]>No saving full films.[/quote] You and I must be playing a different copy then. I'm able to save full films. [quote]>No campaign scoring.[/quote] What purpose did campaign scoring have anyway? [quote]>Faster kill times.[/quote] So? The game plays at a faster pace. [quote]>No more credits, armor requires days of grinding.[/quote] Now you actually have to work for the stuff you unlock. How's that a bad thing?
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There's no theater mode for campaign? What the Hell! That's stupid.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] SH4D0W0733 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Dragonzzilla Don't compare Reach and Halo 4. Just don't. They're made by different people with different ideals. Slag off if you can accept the process of evolution.[/quote]So that is what it is called now? Evolution? Throwing away well received features used by many, and for what? To give us quicktime events in campaign? Having to cut back at the gameplay in infection by adding a little bit of ''coolness'' to the player design? Are you honestly saying that graphics should come before gameplay, and that mashing buttons in a pattern is a good replacement for the campaign theater mode? That the natural course of game evolution saw these features as obsolete? If so, then I won't even bother to read whatever response you come up with, I do not suffer fools easily.[/quote]Humankind did just fine with what we had years ago but we keep changing it. Things get lost and gained over time, there is no such thing nor will there ever be the "perfect" game. Halo's just changing like any other successful creation.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] BerzerkCommando [quote]>zombies cant hold guns >Thruster pack in zombies.[/quote] Flood =/= Infection. [quote]>No saving full films.[/quote] You and I must be playing a different copy then. I'm able to save full films. [quote]>No campaign scoring.[/quote] What purpose did campaign scoring have anyway? [quote]>Faster kill times.[/quote] So? The game plays at a faster pace. [quote]>No more credits, armor requires days of grinding.[/quote] Now you actually have to work for the stuff you unlock. How's that a bad thing? [/quote] >Still haven't been able to put guns on zombies but i'm not 100% on that so i'll get back to you. And the thruster pack has almost guaranteed the end of fun infection due to the shenanigans that it causes >Like stated earlier, that may be because of my (and my friends) stupidity >Replay value, which the actual campaign is lacling severely >Not a good thing, halo used to have that perfect mix. Not too fast, not too slow. >You can't get any nice looking armor without playing for days. I mean, honestly, 300 assasinations for a armor set? 1000 assist for a visor? This is the complete inverse of the leveling system, which is rather easy as opposed to previouse games.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] The S bot 9000 >Replay value, which the actual campaign is lacking severely. [/quote] In what way does the scoring add replay value? You're still doing the same thing. The only difference is that you get points for it. [quote]>You can't get any nice looking armor without playing for days. I mean, honestly, 300 assasinations for a armor set? 1000 assist for a visor? This is the complete inverse of the leveling system, which is rather easy as opposed to previous games.[/quote] And how is that still a bad thing? They actually want the people to work for something. Unlike Bungie which basically handed you stuff on a silver platter.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] BerzerkCommando [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] The S bot 9000 >Replay value, which the actual campaign is lacking severely. [/quote] In what way does the scoring add replay value? You're still doing the same thing. The only difference is that you get points for it. [quote]>You can't get any nice looking armor without playing for days. I mean, honestly, 300 assasinations for a armor set? 1000 assist for a visor? This is the complete inverse of the leveling system, which is rather easy as opposed to previous games.[/quote] And how is that still a bad thing? They actually want the people to work for something. Unlike Bungie which basically handed you stuff on a silver platter. [/quote] Have you ever done campaign scoring? It allows you to go for personal best and adds a heightened sense of accomplishment (also, they coul've done friend leaderboards lile firefight did in reach). As for unlocking, 250k credits for a helmet was not an easy feat. But it still allowed you to reach your goal in an easier manner than what they have now. This new system hardly allows people to diversify themselves due to the fact that half the armor sets won't be earned for a couple weeks. And if they wanted people to work for their stuff, why make the leveling system so easy? I'm already a ~39 and I hardly even play it.
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People have the right to their opinions, but why to they come to the flood to push it on us?
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You can save full films OP, you and your friends HDDs must not have much space left or something because I know for a fact you can.
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This thread is full of hypocrites. Weren't you guys complaining about Cr system and how it was so stupid you had to unlock things based off of points?
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Sergent Nesquic People have the right to their opinions, but why to they come to the flood to push it on us?[/quote] I'm not shoving it down your throats and people are allowed to disagree :v
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] WhiteFang0699 This thread is full of hypocrites. Weren't you guys complaining about Cr system and how it was so stupid you had to unlock things based off of points?[/quote] I was fine with it. You could check my post history if you want. (only like ~10 post in the reach forum)
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] flamedude I agree. H4 is disappointing and Reach was a lot better. I played H3 last night because I got so bored of H4..... and it was very very good.[/quote] So much this.
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And the Customs suck.
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It just gets very old going on the flood and seeing these types of threads 24/7 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] The S bot 9000 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Sergent Nesquic People have the right to their opinions, but why to they come to the flood to push it on us?[/quote] I'm not shoving it down your throats and people are allowed to disagree :v [/quote]
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Sergent Nesquic It just gets very old going on the flood and seeing these types of threads 24/7 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] The S bot 9000 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Sergent Nesquic People have the right to their opinions, but why to they come to the flood to push it on us?[/quote] I'm not shoving it down your throats and people are allowed to disagree :v [/quote][/quote] If you can't beat 'em, join 'em. ._________.
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I'd probably be less unhappy with H4 if there was Assault, classic CTF and a better spawn system. Oh and a JIP system that works. Oh and ammo on maps in BTB.
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I'm unhappy about everything but the campaign game play and the MP. But everything else is secondary.
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I agree op. I already traded in Halo 4 because of the disgust it did to the franchise. Custom loadouts, instant respawn, no reason to learn the map, heavy aim assist and huge hitbox, random map drops, ordinance drop. Such a downer to the franchise. Reach stabbed it with AA but Halo 4 gutted it into nothing. I have to sometimes lie to myself that Halo 4 was released.
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It's different from Reach, but I wouldn't call it bad. :)
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I completely agree with you. You can also mention that we're missing: >UNSC air vehicle >plasma rifle >open, big maps (Hemorrhage, Boneyard, Spire) >armor attachments >campaign scoring >watching videos straight from temporary history without having to save the clip >dropping the flag willfully >revenant and the biggest thing of them all: >FUN!
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Agreed. Halo 4 was the shittiest Halo to ever impregnate my XBox.
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They just cut so much... and added so little. No Infection. No Territories. No Assault. No Race. No Stockpile. No Headhunter. No Juggernaut.
