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11/18/2012 1:29:54 AM
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I just wrote a police officer a ticket
So today I saw a police officer parked in a yellow "no parking zone" But he wasn't responding to an emergency, He was at a 7-11 and he walked out with a big gulp.
He was abusing his status as a police officer. And this is how I am about to knock him down a level for it.
I live in Oregon. In Oregon it is a little known fact that you don't have to be a police officer, or a parking attendant to write someone a parking ticket. [url=http://www.leg.state.or.us/ors/153.html]See ORS 153.058[/url]
Now back to the story. as the officer was coming out as soon as I saw that he was parked illegally I took a picture of him ( as he was coming out holding his big gulp, and of his car parked illegally. AND of him getting into his car.
This is all of the evidence that I need to issue him a citation.
I went on down to the police station and initiated the proceedings of filing the citation. Filled out his ticket, and took it down to the court house as per the instructions. At the courthouse I gave the nearly-finished ticket to the clerk who found an available court date. And then signed the ticket. And took an oath that the information was correct.
This police officer is now going to receive the ticket in the mail with his court date. I will also be going to this court date where I will be presenting the photographic evidence of his illegal parking. He will have no excuse.
tl;dr I wrote a police officer a ticket, and now he must appear in court.
UPDATE: 500 replies w00t, I will be posting the pictures AFTER the court date. Due to legal/security reasons.
[Edited on 11.18.2012 6:31 PM PST]
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Sgt monkey41 Wow going out of your way to -blam!- with someone who devotes their life to protect you. [/quote] Yeh, that's obviously why he signed up. Not because he enjoys the job or anything...
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Oh wow. This calls for a Soviet Russia joke becoming true.
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trying too hard op
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I'm currently studying Criminal Justice to one day be an officer myself. I believe that there was nothing wrong with what OP did. Surely the OP could have went about his day and not said or done a single thing. But he has a point, just because he is an officer that does not give him the authority to break the law himself. All cops should lead by example, and unfortunately, too many of them do not. Something like this may put the Officer back in his place and make him start leading by example once more. As a wannabe cop myself, nothing irritates me more than the people I look up to who don't even follow their own rules. Why is this even a 15 page thread? This discussion should've been over pages ago.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Garshne [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] The Hired Gun Wow, dick move. Writing someone a ticket who risks his life to protect citizens all day.[/quote]So police officers are allowed to speed, park wherever they want, and just circumvent all these 'minor' laws?[/quote]Apparently so.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] The Hired Gun Wow, dick move. Writing someone a ticket who risks his life to protect citizens all day.[/quote]So police officers are allowed to speed, park wherever they want, and just circumvent all these 'minor' laws?
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] AK 47625714 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Master Chef [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] AK 47625714 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Master Chef I don't want to tread off-topic here, but my point is that laws exist to be interpreted, not blindly followed.[/quote]The judiciary interprets the laws, not the officer or citizen. If an officer is interpreting the law, he's doing his job wrong. [quote]OP went out of his way to give the officer in question a ticket in an unreasonable circumstance.[/quote]I fail to see how it's unreasonable. An officer violated the law, and he's facing the consequences. He is not above the law. Once again, not holding those who enforce the law accountable to it, no matter how small of an issue it is, is irresponsible and stupid.[/quote] If citizens and officers don't interpret laws, and we leave legal thought to judges alone, then I want out of this society. Abandonment of thought does not serve us well as a species. The biggest issue I am having right now is convincing an idealist that the world is not perfect. Live a bit longer, and you might understand why this pedantry is unbecoming of you. Oops, [i]he parked in front of a 7-11.[/i] Visualize this for me; in the striped off area before the convenience store's doors, a car sat for two minutes. And the earth shook.[/quote]So, no actual counter-argument? Okay then. We're done here.[/quote] No, you ignored my post. Although we may well be done here. I just said that you are expecting perfection in an imperfect world, and demanding it in absurd circumstances. Furthermore, I stated that your assessment of a law and how a citizen ought to interact with it is equivalent to a dog obeying its owner without flinching. If you want to be a good dog, that is fine by me. I would just rather be one that makes rational decisions.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] The Hired Gun [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] AK 47625714 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] The Hired Gun Wow, dick move. Writing someone a ticket who risks his life to protect citizens all day.[/quote]That somehow makes him above the law?[/quote] No, but writing them up for such a small thing, while they risk their life every day is a dick move.[/quote]Whether they risk their lives or not is irrelevant. Nothing is too small when it comes to holding law enforcement accountable for their actions.
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Good for you.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] AK 47625714 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] The Hired Gun Wow, dick move. Writing someone a ticket who risks his life to protect citizens all day.[/quote]That somehow makes him above the law?[/quote] No, but writing them up for such a small thing, while they risk their life every day is a dick move.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Master Chef [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] AK 47625714 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Master Chef I don't want to tread off-topic here, but my point is that laws exist to be interpreted, not blindly followed.[/quote]The judiciary interprets the laws, not the officer or citizen. If an officer is interpreting the law, he's doing his job wrong. [quote]OP went out of his way to give the officer in question a ticket in an unreasonable circumstance.[/quote]I fail to see how it's unreasonable. An officer violated the law, and he's facing the consequences. He is not above the law. Once again, not holding those who enforce the law accountable to it, no matter how small of an issue it is, is irresponsible and stupid.[/quote] If citizens and officers don't interpret laws, and we leave legal thought to judges alone, then I want out of this society. Abandonment of thought does not serve us well as a species. The biggest issue I am having right now is convincing an idealist that the world is not perfect. Live a bit longer, and you might understand why this pedantry is unbecoming of you. Oops, [i]he parked in front of a 7-11.[/i] Visualize this for me; in the striped off area before the convenience store's doors, a car sat for two minutes. And the earth shook.[/quote]So, no actual counter-argument? Okay then. We're done here.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] AK 47625714 Once again, not holding those who enforce the law accountable to it, no matter how small of an issue it is, is irresponsible and stupid.[/quote]because depriving the public of a police officer is neither of those things, right?
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] AK 47625714 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Master Chef I don't want to tread off-topic here, but my point is that laws exist to be interpreted, not blindly followed.[/quote]The judiciary interprets the laws, not the officer or citizen. If an officer is interpreting the law, he's doing his job wrong. [quote]OP went out of his way to give the officer in question a ticket in an unreasonable circumstance.[/quote]I fail to see how it's unreasonable. An officer violated the law, and he's facing the consequences. He is not above the law. Once again, not holding those who enforce the law accountable to it, no matter how small of an issue it is, is irresponsible and stupid.[/quote] If citizens and officers don't interpret laws, and we leave legal thought to judges alone, then I want out of this society. Abandonment of thought does not serve us well as a species. The biggest issue I am having right now is convincing an idealist that the world is not perfect. Live a bit longer, and you might understand why this pedantry is unbecoming of you. Oops, [i]he parked in front of a 7-11.[/i] Visualize this for me; in the striped off area before the convenience store's doors, a car sat for two minutes. And the earth shook.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] The Hired Gun Wow, dick move. Writing someone a ticket who risks his life to protect citizens all day.[/quote]That somehow makes him above the law?
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Wow, dick move. Writing someone a ticket who risks his life to protect citizens all day.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Master Chef I don't want to tread off-topic here, but my point is that laws exist to be interpreted, not blindly followed.[/quote]The judiciary interprets the laws, not the officer or citizen. If an officer is interpreting the law, he's doing his job wrong. [quote]OP went out of his way to give the officer in question a ticket in an unreasonable circumstance.[/quote]I fail to see how it's unreasonable. An officer violated the law, and he's facing the consequences. He is not above the law. Once again, not holding those who enforce the law accountable to it, no matter how small of an issue it is, is irresponsible and stupid. [Edited on 11.18.2012 2:02 AM PST]
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] AK 47625714 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Master Chef What is burning in my mind is this: [i]When can we get past the monolithic "police" and start to treat law enforcement as individuals in the way we demand they treat us?[/i] This is just a job for them, in the end. They go home to a family, a spouse, or a pet, just as anyone else does. Why the hate?[/quote]They are sworn to uphold and enforce the laws. They must be held accountable to those same laws. To do any less would be irresponsible and stupid. The officer violated the law, and he is facing the consequences of his actions. Plain and simple.[/quote] This is the same line of thinking that backs a three-strikes law in California, and wholesale deportation of illegal immigrants. I don't want to tread off-topic here, but my point is that laws exist to be interpreted, not blindly followed. OP went out of his way to give the officer in question a ticket in an unreasonable circumstance. If this had been on the street, with an empty meter, that is one thing. But for parking in front of a 7-11? What, are we a bunch of litigious pedants?
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] AK 47625714 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Master Chef What is burning in my mind is this: [i]When can we get past the monolithic "police" and start to treat law enforcement as individuals in the way we demand they treat us?[/i] This is just a job for them, in the end. They go home to a family, a spouse, or a pet, just as anyone else does. Why the hate?[/quote]They are sworn to uphold and enforce the laws. They must be held accountable to those same laws. To do any less would be irresponsible and stupid. The officer violated the law, and he is facing the consequences of his actions. Plain and simple.[/quote]at the possible expense of the public. that is irresponsible.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Master Chef What is burning in my mind is this: [i]When can we get past the monolithic "police" and start to treat law enforcement as individuals in the way we demand they treat us?[/i] This is just a job for them, in the end. They go home to a family, a spouse, or a pet, just as anyone else does. Why the hate?[/quote]They are sworn to uphold and enforce the laws. They must be held accountable to those same laws. To do any less would be irresponsible and stupid. The officer violated the law, and he is facing the consequences of his actions. Plain and simple.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Master Chef [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] funkbrotha10 Maybe the officer should have thought of that before he committed a parking offense that could land him in court. He is ultimately responsible.[/quote] I'm not so sure. You, given the power trusted in you by the state of Oregon, have exercised poor discretion. This is how I see things, and I don't think I am unreasonable for it. Congratulations on keeping the public safe, hero.[/quote] >Master Chef >343rd comment wat
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] funkbrotha10 Maybe the officer should have thought of that before he committed a parking offense that could land him in court. He is ultimately responsible.[/quote] I'm not so sure. You, given the power trusted in you by the state of Oregon, have exercised poor discretion. This is how I see things, and I don't think I am unreasonable for it. Congratulations on keeping the public safe, hero.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] funkbrotha10 Maybe the officer should have thought of that before he committed a parking offense that could land him in court. He is ultimately responsible.[/quote]this is true, but you aren't exactly helping matters and i doubt this will stop him doing it again.
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Good to see the OP ignored my point. I'm starting to think he's trolling.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] CultMiester4000 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] DecepticonCobra [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] CultMiester4000 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] DecepticonCobra [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] CultMiester4000 now he can appear in court over a petty offence when he could be out protecting the public. good on ya OP![/quote] You act as though he is the only officer in the whole city. [/quote]that's hardly the point.[/quote] So what really is the point? That an officer of the law has to be accountable to it when they don't follow it?[/quote]if that officer is needed while he's in court a more serious crime could be committed that a petty parking offence. yes, there are other officers that could take his place but the fact is, less officers on the street = less protection for the public.[/quote] Maybe the officer should have thought of that before he committed a parking offense that could land him in court. He is ultimately responsible.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] AK 47625714 TIL that holding the people who enforce the law accountable to the laws they enforce is a bad thing. Thank you, Flood.[/quote] Do you think an officer tickets every speeding vehicle he or she sees? Or that one has never granted someone a break when it was visibly needed? There are police officers in America who have done horrible things: misappropriated funds, taken extreme or reckless measures, and blatantly disregarded the law. This is true for every profession, though. There are awful teachers, horrendous doctors, inept fisherman, and so on. What is burning in my mind is this: [i]When can we get past the monolithic "police" and start to treat law enforcement as individuals in the way we demand they treat us?[/i] This is just a job for them, in the end. They go home to a family, a spouse, or a pet, just as anyone else does. Why the hate?
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] DecepticonCobra [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] CultMiester4000 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] DecepticonCobra [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] CultMiester4000 now he can appear in court over a petty offence when he could be out protecting the public. good on ya OP![/quote] You act as though he is the only officer in the whole city. [/quote]that's hardly the point.[/quote] So what really is the point? That an officer of the law has to be accountable to it when they don't follow it?[/quote]if that officer is needed while he's in court a more serious crime could be committed that a petty parking offence. yes, there are other officers that could take his place but the fact is, less officers on the street = less protection for the public.
