[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Milky Bravo -The Rings[/quote] True. [quote]-MAC rounds -Cleansing beam -Pulse cannons -Mass Drivers[/quote] These are not super-weapons. At least, not nearly in the same league as the Halo Array or the Death Star. [quote]-Advanced Technology[/quote] Such as...? [quote]-Scarabs and other devastating aircrafts -AA guns[/quote] See above. Scarabs are regularly taken out by one guy who strolled on up and attacked its weak spot [i]for massive damage[/i] after rather easily crippling its legs. Not to mention they're slow as hell. [quote]-strong,powerful enemies[/quote] Such as...? [quote]-heavy artilery vehicles[/quote] See above.

I think the star wars fanboys fail to see just how powerful the precursors are each one of them is essentially a god and thier creations can only be destroyed with a halo array With this conclusion I don't understand how the jedi will be able to simply "rip apart" the fleet of gods face it you are essentially argueing who would win:Star Wars universe or thousands of GODS

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] TheSpiderChief [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] TwistedDippy666 Also halo rings destroy structures as well so the droids would get wiped as well.[/quote] Structures aren't sentient life forms -_- You should feel pretty stupid right about now.[/quote] No, they can destroy structures. Read forerunner novels before you enter a debate about the forerunners. Precursor structures used neural physics to connect everything together and they were thought to be indestructible, however a halo test fire annihilated the structures. Also halo can be fine tuned to fire differently for ranges and frequencies. You should feel pretty stupid now.

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Da Real Caboose Honestly dude, the Star Wars universe is just OP. Stories always try to one up another and they're nothing holding it back. [/quote] Being able to beat Halo =/= OP. I don't think anybody but the fans care about who would win in a fight.

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Sergeant Donut I think the star wars fanboys fail to see just how powerful the precursors are each one of them is essentially a god and thier creations can only be destroyed with a halo array With this conclusion I don't understand how the jedi will be able to simply "rip apart" the fleet of gods face it you are essentially argueing who would win:Star Wars universe or thousands of GODS[/quote] They're obviously not gods if the Forerunners wiped out an entire species of them. Then again the Forerunners got wiped out by fungus zombies that get killed by average bullets so power is all over the place in the Haloverse.

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] And Im Here Too [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Sergeant Donut I think the star wars fanboys fail to see just how powerful the precursors are each one of them is essentially a god and thier creations can only be destroyed with a halo array With this conclusion I don't understand how the jedi will be able to simply "rip apart" the fleet of gods face it you are essentially argueing who would win:Star Wars universe or thousands of GODS[/quote] They're obviously not gods if the Forerunners wiped out an entire species of them. Then again the Forerunners got wiped out by fungus zombies that get killed by average bullets so power is all over the place in the Haloverse.[/quote] The precursors are believed to still exist outside the galaxy waiting to test humanity for the mantle. Also the forerunners are believed to stolen precursor weapons to win the war. Finally the flood the forerunners were fighting were vastly superior to the unsc flood. The forerunner flood had forerunner ships which annihilate anything. Also forerunner ships>star wars ships. 100km fortress vessel made of mostly light contains thousands of guns and ships. Four of these small cruisers ships were enough to destroy a halo ring putting there power calculated to be in the exatons (if i remember correctly, been a while since i saw the calcs).

Halo Universe wins solely because of the Forerunners and Precursors, and maybe the Flood. However, the Star Wars Universe has several ancient races like the Rakatta and the Celestials that we know extremely little about. But the Covenant and UNSC would be roflstomped by the Republic, Empire, CIS, Rebellion, Jedi and Sith. They would be outnumbered on the order of 100,000:1.

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] WEE MAN MJJC [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] KaneXX12 It would not kill everything in the halo universe, because there are still AI's, monitors, sentinels, and everyone who went into a shield world, or outside the galaxy.[/quote] Then the Covenant would be dead, the UNSC would be dead (although that wouldn't really matter anyway) and the majority of the Forerunners (you guessed it) would be dead. That's half of the Haloverse already taken out. [quote] And may I ask how Sidious can create wormholes?[/quote] [url=http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Force_storm_(wormhole)]Here ya go.[/url] If one force user can do that to an [i]entire[/i] fleet in the Star Wars verse, it's safe to say Halo is pretty screwed.[/quote] According to the article, Sidious was consumed by one of his own storms. And with the technology of the humans and covenant now, they can probably make an artificial storm via slipspace. And If the majority of of humans and covenant go into the shield world while the rings fire, they get saved. There are also monitors like Spark, and sentinels. And I don't mean just the standard sentinels. I mean them and sentinel enforcers or larger. Plus, you still have the prometheans and AI's which can control UNSC and covie ships.

Decided to do some searching. [url=http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Executor-class_Star_Dreadnought]Executor Class Star Destroyer[/url] The reactor has an output of 773,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 Watts. To compare: Our sun outputs 386,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 Watts. That single Star Destroyer can generate more than twice the energy than our local star can. The death star's laser can output 240,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 Watts onto a single point. Centerpoint Station is another superweapon with immense output. I cannot find any figures, but it has been used to destroy stars. Segment from a book about the firing of the station [quote]Agents of Chaos - Jedi Eclipse - James Luceno - Pg 327 "All at once, a flash of radiant energy illuminated local space. From Rimward of Fondor's outermost moon, or perhaps gushed from hyperspace itself, came a torrent of starfire a thousand kilometers wide. Coalescing into a savage beam of focused annihilation, it tore into the midst of the dispersing Hapan fleet, consuming every ship in its path, atomizing some in the blink of an eye and holing others with spears of seething light. Weapons, superstructure, and antennae vaporized by the skewering beam, the ships exploded outward, vanishing in globes of brilliant mass-energy conversions. Even those ships outside the limits of the beam were hurled violently off course, slagged along their inward-facing sides, or thrown into collisions with one another. The mated saucers of the Battle Dragons broke apart and disintegrated, and the battle cruisers were snapped like twigs. Fighter groups vanished without a trace."[/quote] Could someone calculate or find sources for power outputs of Halo craft?

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] catman6 Decided to do some searching. [url=http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Executor-class_Star_Dreadnought]Executor Class Star Destroyer[/url] The reactor has an output of 773,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 Watts. To compare: Our sun outputs 386,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 Watts. That single Star Destroyer can generate more than twice the energy than our local star can. The death star's laser can output 240,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 Watts onto a single point. Centerpoint Station is another superweapon with immense output. I cannot find any figures, but it has been used to destroy stars. Segment from a book about the firing of the station [quote]Agents of Chaos - Jedi Eclipse - James Luceno - Pg 327 "All at once, a flash of radiant energy illuminated local space. From Rimward of Fondor's outermost moon, or perhaps gushed from hyperspace itself, came a torrent of starfire a thousand kilometers wide. Coalescing into a savage beam of focused annihilation, it tore into the midst of the dispersing Hapan fleet, consuming every ship in its path, atomizing some in the blink of an eye and holing others with spears of seething light. Weapons, superstructure, and antennae vaporized by the skewering beam, the ships exploded outward, vanishing in globes of brilliant mass-energy conversions. Even those ships outside the limits of the beam were hurled violently off course, slagged along their inward-facing sides, or thrown into collisions with one another. The mated saucers of the Battle Dragons broke apart and disintegrated, and the battle cruisers were snapped like twigs. Fighter groups vanished without a trace."[/quote] Could someone calculate or find sources for power outputs of Halo craft?[/quote]Due to the Forerunners, no matter what Star Wars can put out, Halo would win.

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] catman6 Decided to do some searching. [url=http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Executor-class_Star_Dreadnought]Executor Class Star Destroyer[/url] The reactor has an output of 773,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 Watts. To compare: Our sun outputs 386,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 Watts. That single Star Destroyer can generate more than twice the energy than our local star can. The death star's laser can output 240,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 Watts onto a single point. Centerpoint Station is another superweapon with immense output. I cannot find any figures, but it has been used to destroy stars. Segment from a book about the firing of the station [quote]Agents of Chaos - Jedi Eclipse - James Luceno - Pg 327 "All at once, a flash of radiant energy illuminated local space. From Rimward of Fondor's outermost moon, or perhaps gushed from hyperspace itself, came a torrent of starfire a thousand kilometers wide. Coalescing into a savage beam of focused annihilation, it tore into the midst of the dispersing Hapan fleet, consuming every ship in its path, atomizing some in the blink of an eye and holing others with spears of seething light. Weapons, superstructure, and antennae vaporized by the skewering beam, the ships exploded outward, vanishing in globes of brilliant mass-energy conversions. Even those ships outside the limits of the beam were hurled violently off course, slagged along their inward-facing sides, or thrown into collisions with one another. The mated saucers of the Battle Dragons broke apart and disintegrated, and the battle cruisers were snapped like twigs. Fighter groups vanished without a trace."[/quote] Could someone calculate or find sources for power outputs of Halo craft?[/quote] Well we know that the UNSC uses fusion reactors which are basically miniature suns, so less output than actual stars. We also know that covies use an extremely advanced fusion reactor, which have a ridiculously higher energy output since the UNSC fusion reactors can't even produce enough power to maintain shielding over a cabin, let alone a several kilometer long ship. And since the covenant use scavenged forerunner tech, we can assume the forerunners had significantly higher energy output than the covenant do. So the UNSC is royally -blam!- unless MAC blasts have some special effect against SW ships. [Edited on 10.15.2012 1:19 PM PDT]

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] KaneXX12 According to the article, Sidious was consumed by one of his own storms.[/quote] Yeah Sidious can be overconfident and boastful sometimes. He probably would've been able to control the storm if not for his vanity and power lust. Definitely with the Dark Staff. [quote]And with the technology of the humans and covenant now, they can probably make an artificial storm via slipspace[/quote] Now you're just making baseless assumptions. [quote]And If the majority of of humans and covenant go into the shield world while the rings fire, they get saved.[/quote] That process would be long and rather laborious to carry out. It would take a considerable amount of time to gather all the fleets together and slipspace over there. Not to mention the SW universe isn't exactly going to be waiting around, idly twiddling their thumbs. Not forgetting the fact the Death Star could just one shot the Shield Worlds either. [quote]There are also monitors like Spark, and sentinels. And I don't mean just the standard sentinels. I mean them and sentinel enforcers or larger. Plus, you still have the prometheans and AI's which can control UNSC and covie ships.[/quote] Cool. Star Wars has the Star Forge which manufactures artificial soldiers in the millions, possibly billions.

Just figure one thing out: Disregarding who would in in space, the Halo forces would decimate SW in ground combat. And before anyone says Jedi & sith, I say jackal snipers. I know jedi have good reflexes but beam rifles fire at the speed of light, most if not all force users aren't skilled enough in the force to counter that.

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] SubtleSpartan Just figure one thing out: Disregarding who would in in space, the Halo forces would decimate SW in ground combat. And before anyone says Jedi & sith, I say jackal snipers. I know jedi have good reflexes but beam rifles fire at the speed of light, most if not all force users aren't skilled enough in the force to counter that.[/quote]Blaster shots from Star Wars travel at light speed. Also [url=http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/The_Force][quote]Users who were very good at using the Force could cease merely reacting to their surroundings and actually predict events in the very near future, such as the next blow in a duel.[/quote][/url]

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] SubtleSpartan Just figure one thing out: Disregarding who would in in space, the Halo forces would decimate SW in ground combat. And before anyone says Jedi & sith, I say jackal snipers. I know jedi have good reflexes but beam rifles fire at the speed of light, most if not all force users aren't skilled enough in the force to counter that.[/quote] No, Beam Rifles do not fire at the speed of light. Beam Rifles are actually Particle Beam Rifles and directed energy weapons, meaning that they fire ionized particles that have mass. Massless lasers fire at the speed of light, particles are not fired at the speed of light. The energy required to fire particles at the speed of light is just too ridiculous.

So, ummm, Star Wars wins?

[url=http://www.bungie.net/Forums/posts.aspx?postID=55301756]Anyone who remembers this thread knows that Halo wins[/url].

Star Wars is so much bigger in scope

Ah, this Vs. thread again. Let's see, Star Wars and Halo universes have huge amounts of people when you think about it. You have war-bred Spartans, basically the back-bone of the Halo Universe (Not much variation in strength/abilities to kill). Yet you have on the other hand, the Jedi/Sith as the Star Wars Universe's back-bone (a lot more jedi/sith combined than Spartans that were ever trained, but definetly large variations in their strengths and abilities, i.e. a Padawan/Apprentice and a full-pledged Master/Darth). Can't decide, I love both, so it's like a fight between my childhood (SW) and the things I love now (SW and Halo). *List of some of the strongest people I know of in both universes.* [u]-Star Wars:[/u] 1. Revan 2. Emperor 3. Anakin 4. Luke 5. Obi [u]-Halo:[/u] 1. Master Chief 2. Arbiter 3. Johnson 4. The previous Arbiters 5. Spartans (all of them) *Notice how I didn't include anything a Fanboy would use as an argument, like the Rings (Halos) or the Death Star(s). It just offsets everything, argueing over who would survive what, and would just lead to everyone acting like children over a Vs. thread that's been around way too much*

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] carpet brain Ah, this Vs. thread again. Let's see, Star Wars and Halo universes have huge amounts of people when you think about it. You have war-bred Spartans, basically the back-bone of the Halo Universe (Not much variation in strength/abilities to kill). Yet you have on the other hand, the Jedi/Sith as the Star Wars Universe's back-bone (a lot more jedi/sith combined than Spartans that were ever trained, but definetly large variations in their strengths and abilities, i.e. a Padawan/Apprentice and a full-pledged Master/Darth). Can't decide, I love both, so it's like a fight between my childhood (SW) and the things I love now (SW and Halo). *List of some of the strongest people I know of in both universes.* [u]-Star Wars:[/u] 1. Revan 2. Emperor 3. Anakin 4. Luke 5. Obi [u]-Halo:[/u] 1. Master Chief 2. Arbiter 3. Johnson 4. The previous Arbiters 5. Spartans (all of them) *Notice how I didn't include anything a Fanboy would use as an argument, like the Rings (Halos) or the Death Star(s). It just offsets everything, argueing over who would survive what, and would just lead to everyone acting like children over a Vs. thread that's been around way too much*[/quote]Well as much as I love Halo, and as much as I know Halo would win in a full on war, the character you listed above would destroy the Halo characters.

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] alex0612 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] carpet brain Ah, this Vs. thread again. Let's see, Star Wars and Halo universes have huge amounts of people when you think about it. You have war-bred Spartans, basically the back-bone of the Halo Universe (Not much variation in strength/abilities to kill). Yet you have on the other hand, the Jedi/Sith as the Star Wars Universe's back-bone (a lot more jedi/sith combined than Spartans that were ever trained, but definetly large variations in their strengths and abilities, i.e. a Padawan/Apprentice and a full-pledged Master/Darth). Can't decide, I love both, so it's like a fight between my childhood (SW) and the things I love now (SW and Halo). *List of some of the strongest people I know of in both universes.* [u]-Star Wars:[/u] 1. Revan 2. Emperor 3. Anakin 4. Luke 5. Obi [u]-Halo:[/u] 1. Master Chief 2. Arbiter 3. Johnson 4. The previous Arbiters 5. Spartans (all of them) *Notice how I didn't include anything a Fanboy would use as an argument, like the Rings (Halos) or the Death Star(s). It just offsets everything, argueing over who would survive what, and would just lead to everyone acting like children over a Vs. thread that's been around way too much*[/quote]Well as much as I love Halo, and as much as I know Halo would win in a full on war, the character you listed above would destroy the Halo characters.[/quote]I don't see how Halo could win. The clone army alone was as big as the UNSC almost

Is it just me or is this thread broken?

Star Wars universe vastly outnumbers the Halo universe

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] WEE MAN MJJC Palpatine can create wormholes with the force. Star Wars also has Boba Fett. They automatically win. Now, there's obviously going to be some hardcore Halo fans flooding in (no pun intended) toting the Halo rings around like some kind of unstoppable death force. As the other guy posted above me, they will not work on the likes of Battle droids and possibly force sensitive users. Not to mention, it would kill everything in the Halo universe as well.[/quote] [i]Darth Nihilus[/i]. He alone would -blam!- everyone over and unite everyone, because he killed an entire planet's population by simply speaking [i]a word.[/i] Not to mention Star Wars has Disruptors, which are LOLPOWERFUL guns that ignore shields of any sort and vaporize matter, irregardless of what its made of. The forerunners might as well be butt naked armed with toy guns compared to the crazy -blam!- Star Wars has. It's largely due to the fact that Star Wars is Soft Sci Fi (meaning it gives the finger to realism) and is extremely old, extremely powerful, and has fantasy elements. The Celestials (more powerful than the Precursors) likely melded with the force, and is likely the reason why in Star Wars, the light side always prevails in the end. Meaning that Star Wars would win purely by 'luck' alone.

[quote]A single Forerunner fortress destroyed a ring of 30000 km with Brute strenght,said ring was protected by shields of hard lights,yet it was so easily penetrated by the massive firepower. The POA reacor created a huge explosion(watch Halo 2 opening),it's 5 times larger then the rings width. Ring width=1000 km Explosion=5000 km The SD calculator put's this at 10 petaton,but i assumed 04 was 30000 km too.So let's use the 10000 km number,that will put it at 200 teraton. So we have 200 teraton-10 petaton figure for the Poa destruction yield,but i would prefer the 30000 km numbers because it's most likely a retcon. Here are the links to the SD calculator: http://www.stardestroyer.net/Empire/Science/Nuke.html If you observe the fireball it's five times the size of the width.Now it's debatable if this ring is 10000 km or 30000 km,but newer sources do support the latter. Pg 66 Evolutions volume II: Closer in:the wreckage of the Halo.The massive ring cut through the view like a question mark that'd been fractured to pieces .Thousands of kilometers. Quote confirms it,there is no doubt that all rings have a diamter of 30000 km. Fireball was around 5000 km,and the SD calculator(above) puts it around 10 petaton. Conclusion:Pillar of autumns explosion was around 10 petaton.Now the evidence that the Forerunner weapon was more powerful then the autumn: As the cruise's fusion drives went crutical,a compact sun blossomed on the surface of Halo.It's thermonuclear sphere carved a five kilometer crater into the superdense ring material and sent powerful pressure waves rippling throughout the structure.Both up and down spin of the explosion,the fireball flattened and sterilized the surface terrain.Within moments,the yellow-white core had consumed all of the available fuel,collapsed upon itself,and winked out. Still spinnig,but unable to withstand the forces exerted on this weak ponit,the ring structure slowly tore itself apart.Huge chucks of debris tumbled end over end out into space,as a five-hundred-kilometer long sections of the ring's world hull sliced through an even longer curve of brilliantly engineered metal,earth and water and produced a cascade of eerily silent explosion. All that 10 petaton explosion did was a 5 kilometer crater,the ring itself was still intact but because of the new weakpoint on that spot,it tore itself apart. Now the rings that were destroyed by Forerunner ships were just destroyed by brute strenght alone and not with the help of a weak point,it also did more damage then just a small crater. Halo cryptum pg 129 The first fortress's fighters moved in,surrounding one of the primed Halos and engaging its sentinels.Simultaneously,four cruisers sent white-hot beams to points around the targeted installation.Setninels intercepted some of those beams,partially deflecting them but also absorbing and sacrificing.Other beams struck home,carving canyonlike gouges across the mottled inner surface and blowing blue-white plumed of debris and plasma from the edges.The interior spokes began to shimmer and fade.The Halo could not hold together against this onslaught.It bent inward,wobbled.Fascinated,i watched as hge sections of the ring twisted like ribbon,giving away to destructive nodes of resonance,then rippled in sinus waves and separated with agonizing majesty Halo Cryptum pg 320 Even before it had emerged halfway,the fortress began to loose clouds of fighters-at this distancenthey resembled a puff of pollen from a flower-and fire it's weapons in a sequential radiance.The inner curve of the Halo,even protected by waves of hard light,could not stand up long to this assault from within it's own radius. The fortress's commanders and ancillas must have known they were dooming themself as well as the Halo.The installation began a spectacular disintegrative sequence.The visible half of the ring bent in opposite directions,then shattered into five great arc. Conclusion: 10 petaton is absolute lowest end for an average Forerunner ship.[/quote] [quote]"Forerunner AI's and UNSC smart AI's can hack into systems without physical contact,this is something Star Wars never encountered before.Cortana was able to hack a 128000 bit molulating key,someone at spacebattles explains how impressive it is: To put it in perspective, a 128,000 bit encryption is 6.919e+38,531 potential combinations. To crack it, she would have to come up with a statistically significant portion of the potential combinations in order to do it. Worse, the encryption was modulating, which means it probably chnaged a few times while she was attempting to crack it. Nattuo: So she can probably process about the amount of information represented by the total combination count in only a couple of seconds. To put this amount of information in persepective if it took Cortana a trillion years to crack the combination, and she got lucky and did it after only accounting for a millionth of the potential combinations(and it did not modulate at any point) she'd be able to simulate the position, vector and other properties of every atom in our universe(assuming there are 10^90 atoms, and each required a magabit a second to simulate) 2.2*10^38,410 times. To put that in more recognisable numbers It's simulating so many trillions of universes, that even stacking the orders of magnitude end on end(a trillion trillion being 10^24) you'd need to repeat the word trillion about 3,200 times to account for all the orders of magnitude. That's a tillion trillion ... 3,197 more "trillion"s .... trillion universes simulated simultaneously in real time. Yet this AI is easily dwarved by a monitor.Let alone the higher ancillas and metarch,let's not even mention a contender." [/quote] [quote]The Sentinels were deployed as a means of maintaining the Flood through surgical, localized tactics. The Forerunner fleet command even contemplated using naval battle groups to enact premature stellar collapse within compromised planetary systems, causing supernovae to engulf entire worlds.[/quote] [quote]The Dyson Sphere within a Shield World is two astronomical units, i.e. 300 million kilometers in diameter, and its inner surface is entirely terraformed and capable of supporting life. In the center is an artificial star. The inner Dyson Sphere resides within a Slipspace transit, accessible only from the Core Room Antechamber in the heart of the artificial planet formed around the structure. In normal space, the slipspace bubble is radically smaller than the interior, being only a few meters in diameter.[/quote] [quote]The Composer was a mysterious entity, possibly a Forerunner or a Forerunner machine, that had many capabilities, including the ability to extract the consciousness and memories of a sapient being. The Librarian employed the Composer when extracting the memories of the surviving human warriors after the Charum Hakkor campaign. The Lord of Admirals, supreme commander of all human forces and one of the humans to have their minds harvested, never saw the Composer directly and described its presence as "strange, ever-changing" and "multiformed", as it operated via Lifeworker machinery. The Composer was also capable of slowing down Flood infection and the subsequent loss of individuality. Some believed the Composer to be a "product of its own services"; a Forerunner, perhaps a Lifeworker, suspended in the final stages of Flood infection. According to Lifeworker Genemender Folder of Fortune, the Composer had once been "designed to save us all", which may have been referring to its ability to keep Flood infection in check. The Composer, or at least its handiwork, was present on Installation 07 around 100,000 BCE, where it was used by the Master Builder to stave off Flood infection in certain Forerunners to keep them in a docile state. This was accomplished through a form of harness which prevented the infectees' decaying bodies from breaking down. By that time, the Composer appeared to be a closely-guarded secret known only to few, as a Lifeworker monitor on Installation 07 did not have any information pertaining to it in its memory.[/quote] [quote]Forerunner spacecraft used special crystals embedded in their slipspace drives to travel through slipspace. In order to move through ordinary space, they utilized a reaction drive which harnessed virtual particles as a propulsive force. In addition, the Forerunners created a network of slipspace portals for high-traffic slipspace transit across the galaxy. Aboard starships, limited inertial dampening was achieved through the use of buffer fields, but during extreme acceleration, the occupants' armors had to be locked to the deck. The interiors of all Forerunner ships were not entirely composed of matter; for example, the structure of a planet-breaker was only half matter, with one third being fuel and reaction mass and the rest being comprised of hard light, allowing the captain to configure the ship's internal layout and decoration at will. At least some types of Forerunner craft can alter their geometry to better suit their current situation; for example, making the ship more aerodynamic in preparation for surface landing.[/quote] [quote]The Onyx Sentinels also have the ability to combine for different purposes, such as exponentially increasing their combat capabilities, or for large-scale excavation. One formation of these combined Sentinels was able to easily destroy two Covenant destroyers. However, it should be noted that the second Covenant Destroyer was caught off guard after a Slipspace jump, and the first one had its energy shields down in a gesture of peace, trying to initiate contact with the Forerunner constructs[/quote]

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Sergeant Donut I think the star wars fanboys fail to see just how powerful the precursors are each one of them is essentially a god and thier creations can only be destroyed with a halo array With this conclusion I don't understand how the jedi will be able to simply "rip apart" the fleet of gods face it you are essentially argueing who would win:Star Wars universe or thousands of GODS[/quote] Star Wars has gods. They were called the Celestials, and became one with the force, and likely influence all the events via their immense will. By becoming one with the force as well, they are invincible, as the Halo arrays can't destroy them. Really, the only thing that can stand up to star wars is the entire Warhammer Universe pitted against them, but that would result in eternal war. You can't forget the fact that they have entire forgeworlds in Star Wars, dedicated to producing warmachines nonstop. There's also the IG-88 robots, which virtually invincible and could simply have their blueprints drawn up again and mass produced. HK-47 is also still alive. And again, there's guys like Darth Sion, who [i]cannot die[/i]. Sion was shot, stabbed, blasted, vaporized, etc, and kept coming back until the Exile soothed him to give up the eternal pain of being 'undead' and accept death. Otherwise he would have continued to kill jedi till the universe died. And again. Darth Nihilus. He sucks the life out of anything he's near and could destroy entire planets of life with his simple presence. And he's not dead either. He transferred his soul into his armor and could be revived at any moment if given a host.