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10/14/2012 10:54:57 PM
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Who would win? Halo Universe or Star Wars Universe?

So my friend told me Star Wars can beat Halo and i said no. Then an discussion broke out which could win, then other people got involved. We need to resolve this as I know tthis will not end. Halo has: -Master Chief -Cortana -Forunners -UNSC -Covenant -Halo Rings Star Wars: -Jedi/Sith -Death Star -Star Killer -Darth Vader -Starcrusher -Stormtroopers(Regular enlisted men) -Droids -All the aliens and weapons from every inhabited world
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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Spartan1995324 Guys... Guys... Halo has Sargent Johnson! His bad assery would be too much for the enemy to handle![/quote] Han Solo. Kyle Katarn. Lando HK-47 Boba Fett Mace Windu Your argument is invalid.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b]-snip-[/quote] Really, I think an engagement would turn out with the Sith and their droid forces -blam!-slapping the covie to their side, then attacking the Jedi. The Jedi would unite with the UNSC, Republic, and Forerunners, while the Flood would be all by their lonesome and be roflstomped out of existence by the Star Wars guys. If the Celestials want to see their toys continue to exist, they'd have the Good guys rolling twenties and the bad guys rolling ones. So the Alliance would win. If Celestials decide to take ten, Nihilus and maybe other wounds created in the following war ROFLSTOMP everyone. The End.

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  • Guys... Guys... Halo has Sargent Johnson! His bad assery would be too much for the enemy to handle!

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Wyzilla [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] SubtleSpartan [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Wyzilla [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] SubtleSpartan [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Wyzilla And for -blam!-'s sake, [i]THE JEDI CAN'T GET INFECTED[/i].[/quote] Why not? They're organic and therefore vulnerable to infection. Flood spores would -blam!- them up since they wear little protective gear such as breathing apparatus. Stormtroopers would stand a better chance than unprotected jedis on a flood infected planet.. [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Wyzilla It's also possible that a powerful sith could even drive the gravemind insane with a simple look.[/quote] You clearly know nothing about the gravemind. It is nigh on omniscient and has driven people to suicide simply by speaking to them. God forbid if it ever learns the ways of the force.[/quote] You can't learn to be force sensitive. You either have it or you don't. [/quote] The flood is a hive mind and absorbs the essence of those it infects. Any force sensitive user assimilated by the flood would allow at least the gravemind, if not other flood, to understand and use the force. The gravemind [i]IS[/i] the most intelligent organic, possibly overall, being in the halo universe by a colossal margin. Are the jedi willing to destroy entire planets when flood ships crash onto them? If not then the flood have already won that fight.[/quote] This wouldn't just be the Jedi. This would be the Sith as well, who would ironically be the main hope, as they are exponentially more powerful. A single Impstardeuce can destroy any ability of a planet to sustain life. Plus, it would have the advantage of possibly creating a wound in the force, who would be an advantage, for a time. In reality, a wound in the force would be so -blam!- dangerous that [i]everyone[/i] would unite to take it out, even the flood. Also, as I posted earlier, -blam!- around with midi-chlorians is not advised. Bad things might happen. Like spawning a child created to specifically -blam!- your civilization silly.[/quote] Actually, if one was fighting the entire Star Wars universe, the Sith would suck. It doesn't matter how BA your Sith Lord is, he always fails in the face of good (the UNSC) according to the Sar Wars universe. It's a stupid argument, I know. [Edited on 10.15.2012 6:42 PM PDT]

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] SubtleSpartan [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Wyzilla [/quote] Obvious star wars fanboy.[/quote] I read up Wookieepedia daily. Nihilus is the most -blam!- powerful thing in both universes. Unless the Precursors have a neat trick up their sleeve, they'd be royally -blam!-. A wound in the force is a black hole incarnate. You need a void to destroy it. Nothing else can. The Exile weakened Nihilus' by here presence, which likely means that a wound is canceled out by a void. Otherwise you're royally -blam!-.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] dahuterschuter First, choose which one of these universes you want to operate with:[/quote][quote][b]Posted by:[/b] ROBERTO jh a full force vs. battle[/quote] [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] dahuterschuter A) True Halo and Star Wars total universes: Everything to ever canonically exist in the respective universes is included in the battle.[/quote] [quote][b]Posted by[/b] dahuterschuter If you choose A, then every Force user ever combines their power to rip the Halo fleets apart at the molecular level, create vast Force-lightning storms to destroy the fleets, create wormholes to swallow the fleets, use their own ships against them, or mind control the majority of them. All from a safe distance, simply sitting around in nice chairs.[/quote] Quotes from page five. [Edited on 10.15.2012 6:41 PM PDT]

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Wyzilla [/quote] Obvious star wars fanboy.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] ROBERTO jh [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] mojeda101 The Empire alone would deal with and defeat the flood. They've defeated, contained, and even created their own type of parasitic forms that are far more aggressive and conservative. They are useless against the Imperial droid armies of the empire. Flood capture a star destroyer? If the droid defense systems fail, self destruct. [/quote] Because that worked wonders for the Forerunners, who were easily more advanced, what with there trillions strong, system-blanketing automated defense systems to guard 2 old planets everybody seemed to forget about. The Flood is exponentially dangerous. Once they have a Gravemind, which in a full force vs. battle they do and the entire Forerunner civilization at their fingertips, then it is only a mathematical certainty that the flood either consume everything, or the victimized combatant commits to total sterilization and mass suicide efforts to stall them. The Galactic Empire is a buffet of biodiversity and biomass. Stronger civilizations like the Forerunners and the Galactic Empire fall faster to the Flood than weaker ones, because they have the more numerous population and/or more advanced technology. Like a denser forest in a forest fire, the more you have to fight them, or the more trees in its way, the more they have to fight you back with and the faster it burns. [/quote] The Empire is a sadistic group of Space -blam!-s who don't give a flying -blam!- about humane actions and would happily destroy anything, as the weapons also of the Empire and star wars on a whole are stronger than any other franchise, save Warhammer's Necrons. They'd be able to kill Covie ships with a couple shots, and would probably just build suicide ships to kill the Forerunners. Slap a hyperdrive on an asteroid, then smash it into the enemy. And again, there's the Sun Crusher. And Nihilus, who could personally wipe out everything. Let bold this since it doesn't seem to get through. [b]A wound in the force would kill [i]everything[/i] in the end unless stopped. Star Wars and Halo. Gone. All of it. Life, even the Flood, is a buffet for a wound in the force like Nihilus. It's food that can be consumed on a planetary scale within a couple seconds or less. Bam. All dead. Biological life gone. All that would be left is the Star Wars robots made in the Star Forge engaged in an eternal war with the onyx sentinels. Unless a wound is destroyed, everything will perish.[/b] [Edited on 10.15.2012 6:39 PM PDT]

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] mojeda101 The Empire alone would deal with and defeat the flood. They've defeated, contained, and even created their own type of parasitic forms that are far more aggressive and conservative. They are useless against the Imperial droid armies of the empire. Flood capture a star destroyer? If the droid defense systems fail, self destruct. [/quote] Because that worked wonders for the Forerunners, who were easily more advanced, what with there trillions strong, system-blanketing automated defense systems to guard 2 old planets everybody seemed to forget about. The Flood is exponentially dangerous. Once they have a Gravemind, which in a full force vs. battle they do and the entire Forerunner civilization at their fingertips, then it is only a mathematical certainty that the flood either consume everything, or the victimized combatant commits to total sterilization and mass suicide efforts to stall them. The Galactic Empire is a buffet of biodiversity and biomass. Stronger civilizations like the Forerunners and the Galactic Empire fall faster to the Flood than weaker ones, because they have the more numerous population and/or more advanced technology. Like a denser forest in a forest fire, the more you have to fight them, or the more trees in its way, the more they have to fight you back with and the faster it burns.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] SubtleSpartan [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Wyzilla [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] SubtleSpartan [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Wyzilla And for -blam!-'s sake, [i]THE JEDI CAN'T GET INFECTED[/i].[/quote] Why not? They're organic and therefore vulnerable to infection. Flood spores would -blam!- them up since they wear little protective gear such as breathing apparatus. Stormtroopers would stand a better chance than unprotected jedis on a flood infected planet.. [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Wyzilla It's also possible that a powerful sith could even drive the gravemind insane with a simple look.[/quote] You clearly know nothing about the gravemind. It is nigh on omniscient and has driven people to suicide simply by speaking to them. God forbid if it ever learns the ways of the force.[/quote] You can't learn to be force sensitive. You either have it or you don't. [/quote] The flood is a hive mind and absorbs the essence of those it infects. Any force sensitive user assimilated by the flood would allow at least the gravemind, if not other flood, to understand and use the force. The gravemind [i]IS[/i] the most intelligent organic, possibly overall, being in the halo universe by a colossal margin. Are the jedi willing to destroy entire planets when flood ships crash onto them? If not then the flood have already won that fight.[/quote] This wouldn't just be the Jedi. This would be the Sith as well, who would ironically be the main hope, as they are exponentially more powerful. A single Impstardeuce can destroy any ability of a planet to sustain life. Plus, it would have the advantage of possibly creating a wound in the force, who would be an advantage, for a time. In reality, a wound in the force would be so -blam!- dangerous that [i]everyone[/i] would unite to take it out, even the flood. Also, as I posted earlier, -blam!- around with midi-chlorians is not advised. Bad things might happen. Like spawning a child created to specifically -blam!- your civilization silly.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Mzone7 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] the arbytor [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Wyzilla [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] the arbytor Halo has the Forerunners Everyones argument is now invalid[/quote] If you bothered to pay any -blam!- attention, you'd realize that Halo would be entirely roflstomped because Star Wars has immortal gods, and undead invincible sith. A single Sith Lord could wipe out an entire fleet with a gesture.[/quote] But 1 sith lord was killed by falling to his death[/quote] Sidious (If this is who you are talking about) actually came back to life through cloned bodies of himself.[/quote] He could also mean Darth Maul. Although, aside from the lightsaber, Darth Maul kinda sucked...

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] ROBERTO jh [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Wyzilla [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] SubtleSpartan [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Wyzilla And for -blam!-'s sake, [i]THE JEDI CAN'T GET INFECTED[/i].[/quote] Why not? They're organic and therefore vulnerable to infection. Flood spores would -blam!- them up since they wear little protective gear such as breathing apparatus. Stormtroopers would stand a better chance than unprotected jedis on a flood infected planet.. [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Wyzilla It's also possible that a powerful sith could even drive the gravemind insane with a simple look.[/quote] You clearly know nothing about the gravemind. It is nigh on omniscient and has driven people to suicide simply by speaking to them. God forbid if it ever learns the ways of the force.[/quote] You can't learn to be force sensitive. You either have it or you don't. Only being that became force sensitive was a [i]droid[/i] by the name of 4-LOM. And the jedi/sith can't be infected unless they were retarded. Otherwise they could just wipe out the flood before they got anywhere near their ship, because Star Wars ships are superior to those used by even the Forerunners. Padawans might get infected, but the Sith at least would be smart enough to eradicate all the flood spores with a simple stare, which they can do. -blam!-, a Sith with the needed force power need only [i]look[/i] at the gravemind, and he could instantly kill it. Nihilus himself is the greatest threat of all, seeing that he's invincible and can only be killed by a wound in the force/void in the force (one who uses the force but has no presence in it). Otherwise, Nihilus would only have to approach the location of the Gravemind, Precursors, Forerunners, hell, the whole damned fleet, and kill them all. Nihilus is the [i]most[/i] lethal enemy in all of Star Wars. He's more of a god. Invincible. Immortal. Limitless power. He feeds on life itself and would chase after every single living organism in both universes, absorb them all, then possibly consume himself or continue to aimlessly search the cosmos for life to consume. He's like the flood, only he just has to be within several thousand miles of you to be able to kill you instantly. Really, I hate how KOTOR 2 handled him, because it still falls to the star wars trope of a hilariously powerful badguy falling to the good guy because of plot bull-blam!-, as the good guy's gotta win.[/quote] Force sensitivity is meassured in terms of a biological life form (bull -blam!- I know, but thank Episode 1 for that) meaning sensitivity can be adapted by a biological assimilator. And no, even on the basis of the most wanked Stat Wars fanboy bull -blam!- I have ever seen, no main Star Wars ship comes close to even a Forerunner cruiser. Remember when Cryptum came out and they were meassured at several hundred terratons? Yeah. Also: [url=http://forums.spacebattles.com/threads/forerunner-feat-thread.236388/]Forerunner industrial capacity and technological feats.[/url][/quote] Midi-chlorians are sentient and likely incapable of being artificially created, as they are created by the force as an adapter. Being made by the force, it's highly unlikely it would allow their corrupted use. When a Sith tried to manipulate them, they screamed out and instead created Anakin Skywalker, the guy would go on to kill the majority of the Jedi and Sith. -blam!- with them is [i]extremely[/i] dangerous and would be like if you raped a demigod. Daddy won't be happy.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] wildnuke Daleks are only high-mid tier in DW. Also the Reality Bomb isn't their most powerful weapon and Time War Era Daleks =/= Post Time War Era Daleks.[/quote]] When did daleks come into this? Also I found this. [quote]Forerunner vessels rely on esoterics above brute firepower. Modern warships utilize AI warfare above all else to "peacefully" deactivate the vessel and suspend the crew, with the use of suppressor fields, baffler fields and introduction of modified slipspace matrices being the primary goal during far more destructive engagements - directly engaging the enemy reactor and causing it to self-destruct for example. They use big F' off lasers when they need to, but generally their primary defense is to intersect weapons fire before it hits by phasing out the region of space around the percieved impact point and compressing it so that it simply bypasses the vessel altogether.[/quote] I'm curious to see the star wars response to AI hacking and local phase distortion.

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  • Star Wars Universe.

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  • Nihilus would single handedly destroy Halo.

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  • The Empire alone would deal with and defeat the flood. They've defeated, contained, and even created their own type of parasitic forms that are far more aggressive and conservative. They are useless against the Imperial droid armies of the empire. Flood capture a star destroyer? If the droid defense systems fail, self destruct.

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  • Forerunner fortress ship.

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  • Daleks are only high-mid tier in DW. Also the Reality Bomb isn't their most powerful weapon and Time War Era Daleks =/= Post Time War Era Daleks. I think it was concluded a few pages ago Star Wars was the victor. [Edited on 10.15.2012 6:22 PM PDT]

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Wyzilla [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] SubtleSpartan [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Wyzilla And for -blam!-'s sake, [i]THE JEDI CAN'T GET INFECTED[/i].[/quote] Why not? They're organic and therefore vulnerable to infection. Flood spores would -blam!- them up since they wear little protective gear such as breathing apparatus. Stormtroopers would stand a better chance than unprotected jedis on a flood infected planet.. [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Wyzilla It's also possible that a powerful sith could even drive the gravemind insane with a simple look.[/quote] You clearly know nothing about the gravemind. It is nigh on omniscient and has driven people to suicide simply by speaking to them. God forbid if it ever learns the ways of the force.[/quote] You can't learn to be force sensitive. You either have it or you don't. [/quote] The flood is a hive mind and absorbs the essence of those it infects. Any force sensitive user assimilated by the flood would allow at least the gravemind, if not other flood, to understand and use the force. The gravemind [i]IS[/i] the most intelligent organic, possibly overall, being in the halo universe by a colossal margin. Are the jedi willing to destroy entire planets when flood ships crash onto them? If not then the flood have already won that fight.

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  • Why is this still going on? This was finished six pages ago. [i]Last night.[/i] [Edited on 10.15.2012 6:22 PM PDT]

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Wyzilla [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] SubtleSpartan [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Wyzilla And for -blam!-'s sake, [i]THE JEDI CAN'T GET INFECTED[/i].[/quote] Why not? They're organic and therefore vulnerable to infection. Flood spores would -blam!- them up since they wear little protective gear such as breathing apparatus. Stormtroopers would stand a better chance than unprotected jedis on a flood infected planet.. [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Wyzilla It's also possible that a powerful sith could even drive the gravemind insane with a simple look.[/quote] You clearly know nothing about the gravemind. It is nigh on omniscient and has driven people to suicide simply by speaking to them. God forbid if it ever learns the ways of the force.[/quote] You can't learn to be force sensitive. You either have it or you don't. Only being that became force sensitive was a [i]droid[/i] by the name of 4-LOM. And the jedi/sith can't be infected unless they were retarded. Otherwise they could just wipe out the flood before they got anywhere near their ship, because Star Wars ships are superior to those used by even the Forerunners. Padawans might get infected, but the Sith at least would be smart enough to eradicate all the flood spores with a simple stare, which they can do. -blam!-, a Sith with the needed force power need only [i]look[/i] at the gravemind, and he could instantly kill it. Nihilus himself is the greatest threat of all, seeing that he's invincible and can only be killed by a wound in the force/void in the force (one who uses the force but has no presence in it). Otherwise, Nihilus would only have to approach the location of the Gravemind, Precursors, Forerunners, hell, the whole damned fleet, and kill them all. Nihilus is the [i]most[/i] lethal enemy in all of Star Wars. He's more of a god. Invincible. Immortal. Limitless power. He feeds on life itself and would chase after every single living organism in both universes, absorb them all, then possibly consume himself or continue to aimlessly search the cosmos for life to consume. He's like the flood, only he just has to be within several thousand miles of you to be able to kill you instantly. Really, I hate how KOTOR 2 handled him, because it still falls to the star wars trope of a hilariously powerful badguy falling to the good guy because of plot bull-blam!-, as the good guy's gotta win.[/quote] Force sensitivity is meassured in terms of a biological life form (bull -blam!- I know, but thank Episode 1 for that) meaning sensitivity can be adapted by a biological assimilator. And no, even on the basis of the most wanked Stat Wars fanboy bull -blam!- I have ever seen, no main Star Wars ship comes close to even a Forerunner cruiser. Remember when Cryptum came out and they were meassured at several hundred terratons? Yeah. Also: [url=http://forums.spacebattles.com/threads/forerunner-feat-thread.236388/]Forerunner industrial capacity and technological feats.[/url]

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Mzone7 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] ROBERTO jh [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Wyzilla [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] A stupid game [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] theHurtfulTurkey Star Wars doesn't have a god-race to combat the Forerunners and Precursors. Halo wins. Throw out god-races, and Star Wars wins easily. /thread[/quote] This is the only true thing in the entire thread.[/quote] -facepalm- Except they do have a god race. Celestials. And Killiks. -blam!-, if the Celestials were in both their states, with one group having a body, and the other being one with the force, Star Wars would murder the halo verse in a manner of months.[/quote] No they wouldn't. It would at least be a tie, since nothing Star Wars has can damage Precursor technology, and as far as anyone knows, Halo doesn't have anything either to likwise damage One-With-The-Force Celestials, except for neural negation weapons which destroy the concept of consciousness(but a big maybe).[/quote] Do the Precursors have physical bodies? Because if so, I'm pretty sure that either sucking the life force out of them or hitting them with a planet destroying laser will wipe them out.[/quote] They do. Also, it's unlikely that the Celestials could be killed by an anti-consciousness weapon, as it's unknown how the force operates. It might be an inter-dimensional field everywhere, or it might be another plane of existence altogether. -blam!-, it might be in another dimension above the 4th. And Star Trek is a bit bull-blam!-, because the only ace they have is Q. Otherwise they're weaker. Only Warhammer, Dr. Who, and Star Wars can fight. Then again, the tech in Dr. Who is [i]freakishly[/i] op, in that the superweapons kill [i]everything[/i], no matter what dimension you live in. Daleks may suck on the battlefield, but when it comes to superweapons, they can -blam!- you up. Plus, time machines.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] TRANze Not sure between halo and star wars, BUT I surely can declare, that Star Trek universe could wipe both of them out. Q Continuum/Thread [/quote] Star wars would easily win [url=http://www.bestonlineengineeringdegree.com/eternal-debate/]this[/url] fight

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  • I'm lovin' that poll. OT: Halo. Sar Wars' shields aren't designed to block solid matter. One salvo from the Pillar of Autumn would destroy the Executor.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] ROBERTO jh [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Wyzilla [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] A stupid game [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] theHurtfulTurkey Star Wars doesn't have a god-race to combat the Forerunners and Precursors. Halo wins. Throw out god-races, and Star Wars wins easily. /thread[/quote] This is the only true thing in the entire thread.[/quote] -facepalm- Except they do have a god race. Celestials. And Killiks. -blam!-, if the Celestials were in both their states, with one group having a body, and the other being one with the force, Star Wars would murder the halo verse in a manner of months.[/quote] No they wouldn't. It would at least be a tie, since nothing Star Wars has can damage Precursor technology, and as far as anyone knows, Halo doesn't have anything either to likwise damage One-With-The-Force Celestials, except for neural negation weapons which destroy the concept of consciousness(but a big maybe).[/quote] Do the Precursors have physical bodies? Because if so, I'm pretty sure that either sucking the life force out of them or hitting them with a planet destroying laser will wipe them out.

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