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My God, It's Full of Stars - The Destiny Map - [EARTH LOCATION]
* [url=http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3252482/Destiny/ohsnap_destiny_real_world.jpg]Real World Overlay - Puerto Princesa[/url]
* [url=http://goo.gl/maps/Mm37H]Google Earth Link[/url]
[quote][URL=http://www.bungie.net/Forums/posts.aspx?postID=74826412][b]Posted by:[/b] Motarius1
Well hello Shirley....[/url]
With a bit of google foo and a lunch break it would appear the map you guys have been working on is a map of Puerto Princesa in the Philippines. See this [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Puertoprincesa_chart4343_1904.jpeg]map[/url] Looks pretty familiar right?
Here's the full write up where I grabbed the image from....
[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Puerto_Princesa[/url]
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[quote][b][u]INTRODUCTION[/u][/b][/quote]
It's been a long time since I've posted anything near this big. I'm a little tense and afraid of it due to its sheer immensity, but I'm gonna give it a good go.
But first, a quick note about "Destiny". [url=http://www.trademarkia.com/destiny-77784606.html]It's the name of their next game[/url]. Just to clear up any confusion some folk may have about the name of the thread. It hasn't been officially announced by Bungie as of yet, but multiple sources on the Internets would also tell you the same.
I'm sure none of you are strangers to the Bnet's fancy background. In all of its dazzling mystique and curious appearance. Are those galaxies? Star-charts? Constellations? Feathers? Bacon?
Well, there's a Destiny blog out there that I believe a lot of the Universe-forum regulars may be familiar with; [url=http://misriahsolutions.com/articles/waiting-for-destiny/]Waiting For Destiny[/url].
They've been doing a fantastic job over the past few months. Making fantastic progress at compiling information, providing theories and posing queries. A lot of fantastic work.
[quote][B][U]THE STAR CARTOGRAPHER[/U][/B][/QUOTE]
What I'm specifically interested in is what the author, Daniel Duncan, has compiled on [url=http://misriahsolutions.com/articles/waiting-for-destiny/3/]Page 3[/url].
[url=http://misriahsolutions.files.wordpress.com/2011/10/continued_cartography.png]A composite image[/url] of the entire set of images that have been found so far.
In it you can see a lot of very curious things. Two things, in particular, being two very noticeable and out of place pure white circles. These both seemed rather too odd to be a natural part of the environment that we've been used to. I had initially considered that they might be bowls in the ground, but, and Daniel has drawn the same conclusion, that these tie in with Dead Orbit somehow. My first reasoning for this is that in previous images of these areas of the map, they aren't there at all. This makes me believe they are mobile of some sort.
Additionally, looking at the - what we assume to be - [url=http://misriahsolutions.files.wordpress.com/2011/10/pax_dead_orbit.jpg?w=584&h=976]Dead Orbit graphic shirt[/url], it seems there's a link between it and the [url=http://misriahsolutions.files.wordpress.com/2011/10/thank_you_card_front.jpg?w=584&h=455]"two random dots"[/url] found on this card. At least, I think there must be. They seem pretty important (well, they're not exactly pretty to look at, and certainly don't fit in with the rest of the image, so it's curious that they exist). You can also see one [url=http://www.bungie.net/News/content.aspx?cid=31904]here[/url].
I really like the composite image he made, but I wasn't convinced with the [url=http://misriahsolutions.files.wordpress.com/2011/10/simple_map.jpg]mini-map color example[/url] he made.
So I've decided to analyse the image and make my own, complete with a Key.
[quote][b][u]THE MAP OF DESTINY[/u][/b][/quote]
[quote][quote]* [u][url=http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3252482/Destiny/destiny_map_001.jpg][b]Step 1: Initial Underpainting[/b][/url][/u] - COMPLETE
[i]Involved isolating the painting strokes from the black background and miscellaneous images in the [url=http://misriahsolutions.files.wordpress.com/2011/10/continued_cartography.png]original composite image[/url], and deciding what sort of ground is located where in the image. Also came to a conclusion about the various graphics found in the map and constructed a key to help you understand the map clearer.[/i]
* [url=http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3252482/Destiny/destiny_map_002.jpg]Step 1.1[/url] - [i]Made some minor edits to the map (mostly the central mountain).[/i]
[/quote][quote]* [u][url=http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3252482/Destiny/destiny_map_003.jpg][b]Step 2: Topography Redux[/b][/url][/u] - COMPLETE
[i]Involved repainting the composite image to make the entire image cleaner.[/i][/quote][quote]* [u][b]Step 3: Refined Painting[/b][/u] - In Progress
[i]Will essentially involve adding extra layers of light/dark values to the underpainting to provide a sense of lighting. I plan on concentrating on the centre of the image.[/i]
[quote][url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TRoh1EitMcI]Step 3.1 [video][/url] - Tested my painting in 3D to see how it looked. Pretty good so far.[/quote][quote][url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_h5WlmsN8yw]Step 3.2 [video][/url] - Updated the model with a much crisper mountain shape, and volcanoes![/quote][quote][url=http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3252482/Destiny/destiny_map.jpg]Step 3.3 [image][/url] - Did some work on water-depths.[/quote][/quote][quote]* [u][b]Step 4: Texturing & Highlights[/b][/u] - Pending
[i]Will give the entire image a lot of rugged texture and bring a large degree more of realism to the image (with rocks for the mountains, trees and cityscapes).[/i][/quote][quote]* [u][b]Step 5: Polishing[/b][/u] - Pending
[i]By this point, all that will essentially be left will be cleaning up the known areas of the map to make them look really good. Some brightness/contrast shifting, colour correction (if need be) and maybe some wallpapers.[/i][/quote][quote]* [u][b]Step 6: Expansion[/b][/u] - Pending
[i]After I complete Step 5, it should really be a case of expanding out further, perhaps with any new map piece findings, or.[/i][/quote][quote]* [u][b]Step 7: Waiting For Destiny[/b][/u] - Pending
[i]Waiting to find out whether my vision is correct, or not.[/i][/quote][/quote]
[quote][b][u]BONUS - 3D MODEL[/u][/b][/quote][quote]* [url=http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3252482/Destiny/clean_3d_001.jpg]Clean 3D Model of Map[/url]
* [url=http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3252482/Destiny/overlay_3d_001.jpg]Overlay 3D Model of Map[/url][/quote]
[quote][b][u]EXTENSIONS - FINDING MORE PIECES[/u][/b][/quote][quote][quote]* 0.1
[url=http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3252482/Destiny/destiny_map_original.jpg]Original Topography Composite Image[/url][/quote][quote]* 0.2
[url=http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3252482/Destiny/destiny_map_resolved.jpg]Resolved position of the upper and lower site nebulas.[/url][/quote][quote]* 0.3 [[url=http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3252482/Destiny/Golden/destiny_map_golden_clean_001.jpg]Clean ver.[/url]]
[url=http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3252482/Destiny/Golden/destiny_map_golden_001.jpg]ncsuDuncan picked us up on where that extraneous area should actually go. Resolved that. Also cleaned up the image fantastically and made it purdy.[/url][/quote][quote]* 0.4
[url=http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3252482/Destiny/destiny_map_golden_002.jpg][Overlay][/url] | [url=http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3252482/Destiny/destiny_map_golden_clean_002.jpg][Clean][/url] | [url=http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3252482/Destiny/destiny_map_happyholidays.jpg][Highlighted][/url][/quote][quote]* 0.4.5
[url=http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3252482/Destiny/destiny_map_happyholidays_b.jpg][Overlay][/url] | [url=http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3252482/Destiny/destiny_map_happyholidays_b_clean.jpg][Clean][/url] | [url=http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3252482/Destiny/destiny_map_happyholidays_b_highlight.jpg][Highlighted][/url][/quote][quote]* 0.5
[url=http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3252482/Destiny/destiny_oneofseven_01_lowres.jpg][Overlay][/url] | [url=http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3252482/Destiny/destiny_oneofseven_02_lowres.jpg][Clean][/url] | [url=http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3252482/Destiny/destiny_oneofseven_03_lowres.jpg][Highlighted][/url][/quote][/quote]
So there we go. If you have anything to add about the map I've made, if I'm behind on information, or if you have your own version of what you think the map is, then definitely post it here! I've been mulling over this whole map in the back of my mind for months now, and I'm happy to say that I am very confident that I've cracked the topography. There are some elements I'm unsure of, but that's based mostly on the sheer lack of map-elements that are still missing that would help me make a much more coherent image.
[quote][b][u]OTHER ARTICLES YOU MAY LIKE[/u][/b][/quote][quote][quote]Cortana 5's [url=http://tinyurl.com/72wuur2]Bungie Formula: Durandal, Cortana, Joyeuse?[/url] thread.
Cortana 5's [url=http://tinyurl.com/7ak6to2]Ver 2.0[/url] thread.
Cortana 5's [url=http://www.bungie.net/Forums/posts.aspx?postID=56466577]Seven Seraphs, Osiris, New Monarchy, Dead Orbit[/url] thread.[/quote][quote]SonicJohn's [url=http://www.bungie.net/Forums/posts.aspx?postID=62158426]Bungie Servers - Connecting Multiple Platforms Online[/url] thread.*
SonicJohn's [url=http://www.bungie.net/Forums/posts.aspx?postID=69922521]Predicting Destiny[/url] thread.
(*Ignore the Aerospace perspective.)[/quote][quote]x Foman123 x's [url=http://destinypedia.net/]Destinypedia - External Wiki for all things Destiny[/url][/quote][quote]risay_117's [url=http://www.bungie.net/Forums/posts.aspx?postID=69653685]Destiny Information Shortlist[/url][/quote][quote]ncsuDuncan's [url=http://misriahsolutions.com/articles/waiting-for-destiny/]Waiting For Destiny[/url] blog.
ncsuDuncan's [url=http://misriahsolutions.com/2012/01/17/scraps-of-destiny/]Scraps of Destiny[/url] blog.[/quote][/quote]
[Edited on 09.17.2012 2:31 PM PDT]
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sonic john, you deserve a cookie.
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Spaceport terminals? I still think the equatorial location would make this a prime location for a port. Factions that control the polar caps are trying to insinuate themselves in Earth's last freerunning port? Points of strategic influence? Or just indicators of things like weapons market, mechanics/upgrades, food/hydrogen suppliers? I do like the floating a la death star type idea though, maybe some sort of [url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qo2iiqYFKBk]tether[/url] between Earth and a floating space platform?
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We still have a mystery on our hands. What's the significance of the circles on some of Bungie's adaptions of the map? They're clearly not present in the originals. Since we have discovered this is indeed a map, what are these giant circles? Are they on the ground? Are they location markers? Or are they floating death-star style? wat.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] SonicJohn [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] The Gold Samuri How much do you want to bet that Puerta Princessa, as the answer to the Map riddle, is just the first clue to the next one.[/quote]We have to go [i]deeper[/i]. No, I mean, literally. Into those underground rivers. [/quote] I would like to focus it into more space faring or battles and capable to travel from planet to planet, that would be neat.
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I want the next clue already, I'm gettin bored.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] The Gold Samuri How much do you want to bet that Puerta Princessa, as the answer to the Map riddle, is just the first clue to the next one.[/quote]We have to go [i]deeper[/i]. No, I mean, literally. Into those underground rivers.
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How much do you want to bet that Puerta Princessa, as the answer to the Map riddle, is just the first clue to the next one.
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That is awesome John. Haha, thank you for linking me. Awesomeawesomeawesome.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Oddley765 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] BIOHAZRED [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] BIOHAZRED So, Based off this information is it possible that Destiny is going to take place on the surface of a planet. I was told that it would take place in space. Also if I remember correctly, and I do believe I heard it in the [url=http://www.bungie.net/News/content.aspx?type=topnews&cid=31927]"Oh Brave New World"[/url] Documentation; That Bungie wanted to go back on some old ideas. Remembering this [url=http://www.bungie.net/Projects/MythUniverse.aspx]Myth[/url] came to my Head. based on "un-confirmed" accusations from other sources Destiny is supposed to be a MMO, And if they are working with Blizzard then we can infer the possibility of destiny's terrain to be similar to World of War craft. See the similarity. [quote][url=http://linux.softpedia.com/screenshots/Myth-II-Soulblighter_2.jpg]Myth Terrain[/url] [url=http://www.geekologie.com/2008/10/13/wow-3.jpg]World of Warcraft terrain[/url] [url=http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3252482/Destiny/destiny_oneofseven_03_lowres.jpg]Destiny topography highlighted[/url] [url=http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3252482/Destiny/overlay_3d_001.jpg]Destiny topography 3D model[/url][/quote] Is it possible that Bungie may create Destiny similar to games like Skyrim and each of the factions are different areas, lands, cities, etc? http://www.bungie.net/Projects/MythUniverse.aspx [/quote] Is anyone going to provide any additional information or even a comment on my reply?[/quote] There is no way Bungie have a slogan of "See you starside" and "To the stars" etc then ship a game only on a planet surface. So I'd relax on that one. My speculation is we'll be playing on air, sea, land, planets, space and the whole gamut of environment experiences really. As for Bungie working with Blizzard I've never heard of that one specifically before. Bungie signed with Activision who are also Blizzard but I seriously doubt the developers are mixing and sharing between each other. If they are then WOW meets Halo is an interesting concept. Although I reserve judgement they'd share game engine assets. I think Bungie are tooling up a new engine from the ground up mate. Bungie are also heading into next generation so it makes sense to move on a complete new engine. After all a lot of the staff and Bungie would be let go completely if they were outsourcing the engine or taking one off the shelf. I don't think that is Bungie's style.[/quote] I agree with the your accusation on the possibility of not only being in space but also on other terrain as well. And the engine you speak of If I remember correctly It is called the Umbrella Engine. That being said; with the use of this engine I am sure it is new to the developers and may take some time getting used to, However I am interested to see how Destiny will turn out. Also Being a game developer myself I am trying to get my hands on that engine but I haven't done much searching yet. As I am not 100% Sure of the Umbrella engines use with Destiny I am pretty sure that they are using the Grognok Engine to build the terrain. Umbrella Engine Video: [url=http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=3&cad=rja&ved=0CCsQtwIwAg&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DZllIKQFVHRg&ei=yDZrUPuYIcHs2QWAtoGgBw&usg=AFQjCNGvDC70ssNJBiwjspnEQ65uQQa-qQ&sig2=IHEAoJBOOlGmS4pxyV-jZw]Click Here[/url] [Edited on 10.02.2012 11:49 AM PDT]
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] BIOHAZRED [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] BIOHAZRED So, Based off this information is it possible that Destiny is going to take place on the surface of a planet. I was told that it would take place in space. Also if I remember correctly, and I do believe I heard it in the [url=http://www.bungie.net/News/content.aspx?type=topnews&cid=31927]"Oh Brave New World"[/url] Documentation; That Bungie wanted to go back on some old ideas. Remembering this [url=http://www.bungie.net/Projects/MythUniverse.aspx]Myth[/url] came to my Head. based on "un-confirmed" accusations from other sources Destiny is supposed to be a MMO, And if they are working with Blizzard then we can infer the possibility of destiny's terrain to be similar to World of War craft. See the similarity. [quote][url=http://linux.softpedia.com/screenshots/Myth-II-Soulblighter_2.jpg]Myth Terrain[/url] [url=http://www.geekologie.com/2008/10/13/wow-3.jpg]World of Warcraft terrain[/url] [url=http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3252482/Destiny/destiny_oneofseven_03_lowres.jpg]Destiny topography highlighted[/url] [url=http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3252482/Destiny/overlay_3d_001.jpg]Destiny topography 3D model[/url][/quote] Is it possible that Bungie may create Destiny similar to games like Skyrim and each of the factions are different areas, lands, cities, etc? http://www.bungie.net/Projects/MythUniverse.aspx [/quote] Is anyone going to provide any additional information or even a comment on my reply?[/quote] There is no way Bungie have a slogan of "See you starside" and "To the stars" etc then ship a game only on a planet surface. So I'd relax on that one. My speculation is we'll be playing on air, sea, land, planets, space and the whole gamut of environment experiences really. As for Bungie working with Blizzard I've never heard of that one specifically before. Bungie signed with Activision who are also Blizzard but I seriously doubt the developers are mixing and sharing between each other. If they are then WOW meets Halo is an interesting concept. Although I reserve judgement they'd share game engine assets. I think Bungie are tooling up a new engine from the ground up mate. Bungie are also heading into next generation so it makes sense to move on a complete new engine. After all a lot of the staff and Bungie would be let go completely if they were outsourcing the engine or taking one off the shelf. I don't think that is Bungie's style.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] BIOHAZRED So, Based off this information is it possible that Destiny is going to take place on the surface of a planet. I was told that it would take place in space. Also if I remember correctly, and I do believe I heard it in the [url=http://www.bungie.net/News/content.aspx?type=topnews&cid=31927]"Oh Brave New World"[/url] Documentation; That Bungie wanted to go back on some old ideas. Remembering this [url=http://www.bungie.net/Projects/MythUniverse.aspx]Myth[/url] came to my Head. based on "un-confirmed" accusations from other sources Destiny is supposed to be a MMO, And if they are working with Blizzard then we can infer the possibility of destiny's terrain to be similar to World of War craft. See the similarity. [quote][url=http://linux.softpedia.com/screenshots/Myth-II-Soulblighter_2.jpg]Myth Terrain[/url] [url=http://www.geekologie.com/2008/10/13/wow-3.jpg]World of Warcraft terrain[/url] [url=http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3252482/Destiny/destiny_oneofseven_03_lowres.jpg]Destiny topography highlighted[/url] [url=http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3252482/Destiny/overlay_3d_001.jpg]Destiny topography 3D model[/url][/quote] Is it possible that Bungie may create Destiny similar to games like Skyrim and each of the factions are different areas, lands, cities, etc? http://www.bungie.net/Projects/MythUniverse.aspx [/quote] Is anyone going to provide any additional information or even a comment on my reply?
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Saved. Going to have to come back to this.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Simjon4two [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] ARBITOR 5 Just so you know, the [url=http://destinypedia.wikia.com/wiki/Destinypedia_Wiki]destinypedia[/url] link needs updating. It is hosted by wikia now.. and is managed by me. ;)[/quote] I already wondered what happened to destinypedia.net. So Foman isn't involved anymore or what? In the mailsack there was no reaction to the questions regarding the map of or Puerto Princesa itself. So it can't be just some map that they used to have a cool pattern or something otherwise DeeJ would have wrote something like "this has nothing to do with what we will reveal SoonTM".[/quote]DeeJ was probably told to aviod the question, and Foman is, just he can't run/own it for a few certain reasons. So we had to restart the pedia :/
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] ARBITOR 5 Just so you know, the [url=http://destinypedia.wikia.com/wiki/Destinypedia_Wiki]destinypedia[/url] link needs updating. It is hosted by wikia now.. and is managed by me. ;)[/quote] I already wondered what happened to destinypedia.net. So Foman isn't involved anymore or what? In the mailsack there was no reaction to the questions regarding the map of or Puerto Princesa itself. So it can't be just some map that they used to have a cool pattern or something otherwise DeeJ would have wrote something like "this has nothing to do with what we will reveal SoonTM". [Edited on 10.01.2012 1:08 AM PDT]
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Just so you know, the [url=http://destinypedia.wikia.com/wiki/Destinypedia_Wiki]destinypedia[/url] link needs updating. It is hosted by wikia now.. and is managed by me. ;)
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So, Based off this information is it possible that Destiny is going to take place on the surface of a planet. I was told that it would take place in space. Also if I remember correctly, and I do believe I heard it in the [url=http://www.bungie.net/News/content.aspx?type=topnews&cid=31927]"Oh Brave New World"[/url] Documentation; That Bungie wanted to go back on some old ideas. Remembering this [url=http://www.bungie.net/Projects/MythUniverse.aspx]Myth[/url] came to my Head. based on "un-confirmed" accusations from other sources Destiny is supposed to be a MMO, And if they are working with Blizzard then we can infer the possibility of destiny's terrain to be similar to World of War craft. See the similarity. [quote][url=http://linux.softpedia.com/screenshots/Myth-II-Soulblighter_2.jpg]Myth Terrain[/url] [url=http://www.geekologie.com/2008/10/13/wow-3.jpg]World of Warcraft terrain[/url] [url=http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3252482/Destiny/destiny_oneofseven_03_lowres.jpg]Destiny topography highlighted[/url] [url=http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3252482/Destiny/overlay_3d_001.jpg]Destiny topography 3D model[/url][/quote] Is it possible that Bungie may create Destiny similar to games like Skyrim and each of the factions are different areas, lands, cities, etc? http://www.bungie.net/Projects/MythUniverse.aspx
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^We tried, but DeeJ didn't acknowledge any posts about it.
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Someone should mention Puerto Princesa in the next mailsack.
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Palawan is very close to the Equator for whatever that's worth (space elevators). I went to Palawan in '93. Hiked the "Monkey trail" went into the "underground river" and then took a boat up to El Nido. One of the more remote places left to visit, I highly recommend going there. Cebu too (west side). They were both awesome.
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VERY VERY IMPRESSIVE Over the years I have blown he mind of pretty much everyone I have met on Xbox and very little surprises or impresses me. On the other hand I have been waiting for someone to post information like this involving the Destiny star map, when I looked at it my first opinion is that it is a terrain map of some sort. It seems that I was more than like correct. Thanks for filling in the gap with this information I've been looking for.
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Impressive discovery on the map, but I'd put my money on it being a coincidence with Lorraine and all. [i]One can always hope, though![/i]
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The underground rivers will be a part of this game. Brilliant work by Moriatus and John, by the way :)
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Brilliant.
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Maybe the underground river(s) is a metaphor for the space travel mechanism in Destiny? You know like how the ocean as rivers/streams, perhaps these underground river from the Philippines map symbolise Destiny's space travel like wormhole tunnels or something? Just an idea.
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Am I the only one that thinks Pimps at sea? Like no joke.
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+100 Cookies You sir, did a hell of a job
