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The Reach forum and its opinions.

I created this thread today, in order to help the inhabitants of the Reach forum (that's you), develop a more intelligent, respectable, and not retarded opinion of the game we all love / hate (that's me) / are indifferent to. [quote][/quote] [b]Here are some examples of good and bad ways of stating your opinions:[/b] [quote][/quote] [quote][b](A1) Like the game - Non retarded opinion:[/b][/quote]I know this game has some issues that could definitely use some fixing, but I still think the game is lots of fun to play. [quote][b](A2) Like the game - Retarded opinion:[/b][/quote]This game is absolutely perfect. There is nothing wrong with it. You just hate it because you suck! Learn to counter Armor Lock and pace your shots. Adapt! [i]As a side note, I would like to point out that every word in the above opinion can be replaced with the word "derp" and still sound a goodly amount more intelligent than it previously did. Also note that the above opinion would most likely contain many grammatical errors.[/i] [quote][b](B1) Hate the game - Non inflammatory opinion:[/b][/quote]I really don't like how this game turned out. The gameplay is just too random and slow-paced to enjoy. I just don't find it enjoyable like I did past Halo games. [quote][b](B2) Hate the game - Inflammatory opinion:[/b][/quote]This game sucks! The only people who like this game are garbage Staff Captains from Halo 3 who couldn't use the BR to save their pathetic life! [i]As another side note, I would like to say that I personally find this opinion to bring in hilarious replies, even though it's not exactly the best way to have an intelligent conversation with someone. I also think that it's a fairly accurate opinion, I do however try and put it in a slightly less inflammatory manor though. Go ahead . . . call me biased. :P[/i] [quote][b]Conclusion:[/b][/quote]I personally am a B1, who respectfully disagrees with A1s. This is how I think this forum should operate. Respect each others opinions! Don't be an A2! B2s are hilarious, but yeah, I only recommend being a B2 to an A2 . . . the A2s deserve it. I would like to add that it is pretty entertaining watching A2s have a huge flamewar with B2s though. PS: If you're confused about what I'm talking about when I say A1, A2, etc, then please note the way it says A1, A2, etc, in front of each type of opinion. TL;DR: Lol, nope. [Edited on 05.23.2011 10:03 PM PDT]
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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] l SecretAgent l [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Darkside Eric [quote](A2) Like the game - Retarded opinion: This game is absolutely perfect. There is nothing wrong with it. You just hate it because you suck! Learn to counter Armor Lock and pace your shots. Adapt! As a side note, I would like to point out that every word in the above opinion can be replaced with the word "derp" and still sound a goodly amount more intelligent than it previously did. Also note that the above opinion would most likely contain many grammatical errors.[/quote] OP in this portion you are actually being a bit biased. If a person would say "I feel this game is absolutely perfect, and to me, there is nothing wrong with it because I have adapted to the changes made in the transition between Halo 3 and Halo Reach," why would you label it "retarded?"[/quote]My mistake. I meant that if someone is claiming that there is absolutely nothing wrong with the game (including saying things around the lines of bloom isn't random), then they're just being stupid. Now if someone says, "I love this game, it's perfect for me". Then that's fine, becuase in their opinion the game is perfect. Just as long as they don't say anything blatantly retarded, y'know?[/quote] But if they feel there is nothing wrong with the game, to them, in there opinion how can they be stupid? [i]We[/i] may think they are stupid, but if they like Bloom's randomness, or Armor Lock's Frosting just because it appeals to them, does it matter what we think of them?

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  • Very informative.

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  • A1. You need to check out my support threads and recent responses.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] AR IS4 NUBS [quote][b](A2) Like the game - Retarded opinion:[/b] This game is absolutely perfect. There is nothing wrong with it. You just hate it because you suck! Learn to counter Armor Lock and pace your shots. Adapt! [i]As a side note, I would like to point out that every word in the above opinion can be replaced with the word "derp" and still sound a goodly amount more intelligent than it previously did. Also note that the above opinion would most likely contain many grammatical errors.[/i][/quote] LOLOLOL!!! Derp. This made me laugh super bad. Just.. haha omg great explanation! ;'D [/quote]Thanks. I lawled pretty good when I thought it up, too. :)

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Darkside Eric [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] ChrisVN [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Darkside Eric [quote](A2) Like the game - Retarded opinion: This game is absolutely perfect. There is nothing wrong with it. You just hate it because you suck! Learn to counter Armor Lock and pace your shots. Adapt! As a side note, I would like to point out that every word in the above opinion can be replaced with the word "derp" and still sound a goodly amount more intelligent than it previously did. Also note that the above opinion would most likely contain many grammatical errors.[/quote] OP in this portion you are actually being quite biased. If a person would say "I feel this game is absolutely perfect, and to me, there is nothing wrong with it because I have adapted to the changes made in the transition between Halo 3 and Halo Reach," why would you label it "retarded?"[/quote] Kinda agreeing with Eric, some people believe santa exists XD.[/quote] Technically, Saint Nicholas did exist. Hell that's not even a real "technically." But people's opinions are going to vary from one extreme to the other on both the X and Y axis. One person may feel Reach is absolutely perfect for them, with little to no flaws. Another might still feel Reach is for them but will recognize, and point out, flaws and wish them to be changed. Another might play Reach simply because they can't let go of Halo despite hating many, many parts of the Reach gameplay.[/quote] Put in a whatever its called : some people like chocolat others like vanilla instead. Also Santa was a fictional character made by coca cola based on an actual hero who gave poor children presents (but that guy was from spain).

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Darkside Eric [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] l SecretAgent l [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Darkside Eric [quote](A2) Like the game - Retarded opinion: This game is absolutely perfect. There is nothing wrong with it. You just hate it because you suck! Learn to counter Armor Lock and pace your shots. Adapt! As a side note, I would like to point out that every word in the above opinion can be replaced with the word "derp" and still sound a goodly amount more intelligent than it previously did. Also note that the above opinion would most likely contain many grammatical errors.[/quote] OP in this portion you are actually being a bit biased. If a person would say "I feel this game is absolutely perfect, and to me, there is nothing wrong with it because I have adapted to the changes made in the transition between Halo 3 and Halo Reach," why would you label it "retarded?"[/quote]My mistake. I meant that if someone is claiming that there is absolutely nothing wrong with the game (including saying things around the lines of bloom isn't random), then they're just being stupid. Now if someone says, "I love this game, it's perfect for me". Then that's fine, becuase in their opinion the game is perfect. Just as long as they don't say anything blatantly retarded, y'know?[/quote] But if they feel there is nothing wrong with the game, to them, in there opinion how can they be stupid? [i]We[/i] may think they are stupid, but if they like Bloom's randomness, or Armor Lock's Frosting just because it appeals to them, does it matter what we think of them?[/quote]I understand that. I'm talking about the people who blatantly deny that bloom is random at all, or the people who deny hit boxes are larger (those people do exist). Pretty much anyone who would reply to a well thought-out post with "adapt".

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  • I once saw a Revenant fly across Hemorreage.

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  • A1 or you're bad. The game has issues, it isn't perfect. However, it's enjoyable and much more decent than some believe. Yeah bloom can be annoying, but apart from that I don't really have a problem with much since I play Arena and there is no AL.

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  • Thank you OP, for explaining this in ways I could not. I find myself as an A1.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] xBAMxBAM I honestly think that when people read someones post, they need to look at it from an unbiased point of view first. (This only goes for well formulated posts. Not "reech sux b/c it sux" posts.) What I try to do is look at someones post from a neutral standpoint and try to understand what they're saying. I then formulate my opinion, whether it agrees or disagrees, with that person. I think that would help out a lot of people. If you don't like the game, that's fine. If you do like the game, that as well is fine. I try to respect everyones opinion on the game. [/quote] *sneezes* Bless me.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] xBAMxBAM [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] xBAMxBAM I honestly think that when people read someones post, they need to look at it from an unbiased point of view first. (This only goes for well formulated posts. Not "reech sux b/c it sux" posts.) What I try to do is look at someones post from a neutral standpoint and try to understand what they're saying. I then formulate my opinion, whether it agrees or disagrees, with that person. I think that would help out a lot of people. If you don't like the game, that's fine. If you do like the game, that as well is fine. I try to respect everyones opinion on the game. [/quote] *sneezes* Bless me.[/quote]Sorry, I missed your reply before. But yeah, I totally agree with what you're saying.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] l SecretAgent l [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Darkside Eric [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] l SecretAgent l [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Darkside Eric [quote](A2) Like the game - Retarded opinion: This game is absolutely perfect. There is nothing wrong with it. You just hate it because you suck! Learn to counter Armor Lock and pace your shots. Adapt! As a side note, I would like to point out that every word in the above opinion can be replaced with the word "derp" and still sound a goodly amount more intelligent than it previously did. Also note that the above opinion would most likely contain many grammatical errors.[/quote] OP in this portion you are actually being a bit biased. If a person would say "I feel this game is absolutely perfect, and to me, there is nothing wrong with it because I have adapted to the changes made in the transition between Halo 3 and Halo Reach," why would you label it "retarded?"[/quote]My mistake. I meant that if someone is claiming that there is absolutely nothing wrong with the game (including saying things around the lines of bloom isn't random), then they're just being stupid. Now if someone says, "I love this game, it's perfect for me". Then that's fine, becuase in their opinion the game is perfect. Just as long as they don't say anything blatantly retarded, y'know?[/quote] But if they feel there is nothing wrong with the game, to them, in there opinion how can they be stupid? [i]We[/i] may think they are stupid, but if they like Bloom's randomness, or Armor Lock's Frosting just because it appeals to them, does it matter what we think of them?[/quote]I understand that. I'm talking about the people who blatantly deny that bloom is random at all, or the people who deny hit boxes are larger (those people do exist). Pretty much anyone who would reply to a well thought-out post with "adapt".[/quote] Understandable... However, despite some people generally using "adapt" wrong, "adapt" on its own can be a very solid, viable, and [i]blunt[/i] way to deal with someone's argument. Make a well thought out, mathematically sound, and heavily researched post about how the DMR's bloom is terrible? Fine, [b]adapt[/b]. Either roll with the punches and realize that you may fall victim to someone spamming the trigger in close quarters. Or you could switch to the Needle Rifle and some other better CQC weapon on hand and try to stay outside of effective spamming range. Again, "adapt" is often misused, but it can be a very blunt yet viable argument.

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  • You forgot the T1s. aka Trolls

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  • B1 here. The amount of A2s on this forum is shocking though.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Davey A1 or you're bad. The game has issues, it isn't perfect. However, it's enjoyable and much more decent than some believe. Yeah bloom can be annoying, but apart from that I don't really have a problem with much since I play Arena and there is no AL.[/quote]Nah, I hate what AAs did to gamplay. I've really only played Halo 3 lately because of how much I enjoy the original gameplay. There are many other reasons why I find Reach annoying though.

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  • Brb in 10, guys.

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  • Your alt is totally not obvious.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Gh0st is Bad Your alt is totally not obvious. [/quote] Potential reverse psychology?

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] l SecretAgent l [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Davey A1 or you're bad. The game has issues, it isn't perfect. However, it's enjoyable and much more decent than some believe. Yeah bloom can be annoying, but apart from that I don't really have a problem with much since I play Arena and there is no AL.[/quote]Nah, I hate what AAs did to gamplay. I've really only played Halo 3 lately because of how much I enjoy the original gameplay. There are many other reasons why I find Reach annoying though.[/quote] Something else I like about it is with hit scan I find I can actually take on North American hosts in DMR battles. The BR and its spread in Halo 3 did not bode well for me off host. I don't know man, sometimes it can be annoying, but I enjoy it. Thing is I play not comparing it to or expecting Halo 3 anymore. It's like a separate game that I've come to enjoy just like I did Halo 3. I hate to sound like a reach forum kid, but I adapted. btw I love jet pack lol. so retarded throwing something in that allows a player to completely ignore key map design elements and just jump around. i abuse it heavily. [Edited on 05.22.2011 4:47 PM PDT]

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] l SecretAgent l [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Davey A1 or you're bad. The game has issues, it isn't perfect. However, it's enjoyable and much more decent than some believe. Yeah bloom can be annoying, but apart from that I don't really have a problem with much since I play Arena and there is no AL.[/quote]Nah, I hate what AAs did to gamplay. I've really only played Halo 3 lately because of how much I enjoy the original gameplay. There are many other reasons why I find Reach annoying though.[/quote] Mind if I ask why you don't enjoy AA's? I personally like them. I think they added a new way to how Halo is played. Now you have to think about what AA that person has when you're engaging them. I like that added strategy to the game. With that being said, I do believe that some AA's could use some tweaking. Personally I don't like AL. I'd rather have Overshield pick up on the map over AL.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Darkside Eric [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] l SecretAgent l [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Darkside Eric [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] l SecretAgent l [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Darkside Eric OP in this portion you are actually being a bit biased. If a person would say "I feel this game is absolutely perfect, and to me, there is nothing wrong with it because I have adapted to the changes made in the transition between Halo 3 and Halo Reach," why would you label it "retarded?"[/quote]My mistake. I meant that if someone is claiming that there is absolutely nothing wrong with the game (including saying things around the lines of bloom isn't random), then they're just being stupid. Now if someone says, "I love this game, it's perfect for me". Then that's fine, becuase in their opinion the game is perfect. Just as long as they don't say anything blatantly retarded, y'know?[/quote] But if they feel there is nothing wrong with the game, to them, in there opinion how can they be stupid? [i]We[/i] may think they are stupid, but if they like Bloom's randomness, or Armor Lock's Frosting just because it appeals to them, does it matter what we think of them?[/quote]I understand that. I'm talking about the people who blatantly deny that bloom is random at all, or the people who deny hit boxes are larger (those people do exist). Pretty much anyone who would reply to a well thought-out post with "adapt".[/quote] Understandable... However, despite some people generally using "adapt" wrong, "adapt" on its own can be a very solid, viable, and [i]blunt[/i] way to deal with someone's argument. Make a well thought out, mathematically sound, and heavily researched post about how the DMR's bloom is terrible? Fine, [b]adapt[/b]. Either roll with the punches and realize that you may fall victim to someone spamming the trigger in close quarters. Or you could switch to the Needle Rifle and some other better CQC weapon on hand and try to stay outside of effective spamming range. Again, "adapt" is often misused, but it can be a very blunt yet viable argument. [/quote]Well, I don't want to get into an adapt/DMR bloom argument here, but I will address this. There are many gametypes where you start off with the DMR, and it's inevitable that you're going to get into a DMR battle with someone, (you don't always have the option to switch out your DMR for another weapon) and when that happens, there's a good amount of luck that will go into winning that battle because of the randomness of bloom. There is nothing you can do to adapt to a random situation. Now if DMR bloom actually increased the skill-gap, and there were people complaining about it, then it would be a viable argument, because "adapt" could just be another way of saying "get better at controlling bloom to give you the upperhand in a battle". However it is not a viable argument when DMR bloom is as random as it is. Saying "adapt" to that, is like telling someone to adapt to a coin toss.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Gh0st is Bad Your alt is totally not obvious. [/quote]Ditto.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] l SecretAgent l There is nothing you can do to adapt to a random situation.[/quote] This is completely untrue as nearly, if not wholly, the entirety of gameplay is based around the random actions of players. But we're going to go in circles here. I understand your meaning and where you are coming from, I agree with it for the most part however I am perhaps more general in my views while you may be more streamlined.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Davey [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] l SecretAgent l [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Davey A1 or you're bad. The game has issues, it isn't perfect. However, it's enjoyable and much more decent than some believe. Yeah bloom can be annoying, but apart from that I don't really have a problem with much since I play Arena and there is no AL.[/quote]Nah, I hate what AAs did to gamplay. I've really only played Halo 3 lately because of how much I enjoy the original gameplay. There are many other reasons why I find Reach annoying though.[/quote] Something else I like about it is with hit scan I find I can actually take on North American hosts in DMR battles. The BR and its spread in Halo 3 did not bode well for me off host. I don't know man, sometimes it can be annoying, but I enjoy it. Thing is I play not comparing it to or expecting Halo 3 anymore. It's like a separate game that I've come to enjoy just like I did Halo 3. I hate to sound like a reach forum kid, but I adapted. btw I love jet pack lol. so retarded throwing something in that allows a player to completely ignore key map design elements and just jump around. i abuse it heavily.[/quote]Yes. That's one of the good things about Reach. The netcode is much better. I really didn't like the BR spread in Halo 3, but that was the games only major flaw IMO. I see what you're saying about it being a separate game experience and all, but considering Halo is really the only game I play and truly like, I still can't really enjoy Reach because of how much it's diverged from the original gameplay.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] l SecretAgent l [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Gh0st is Bad Your alt is totally not obvious. [/quote]Ditto.[/quote]But this isn't an alt. Your argument is invalid.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Darkside Eric [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] l SecretAgent l There is nothing you can do to adapt to a random situation.[/quote] This is completely untrue as nearly, if not wholly, the entirety of gameplay is based around the random actions of players. But we're going to go in circles here. I understand your meaning and where you are coming from, I agree with it for the most part however I am perhaps more general in my views while you may be more streamlined.[/quote]Yes. Circles are annoying. Let's agree to disagree on that particular point, shall we?

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