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The Arab Spring (Tunisia, Libya, Egypt,Yemen,Syria)UPDATE 433

This thread was started after the [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_Security_Council]UNSC[/url] approved the no-flyzone over Libya, and mostly follows the events surrounding The Arab Spring that began in Tunisia, on the fateful day a man was denied his fruit cart, and spread across the Arab world in a push for democratic reform. [url=http://www.youtube.com/user/aljazeeraenglish#p/u/1/ULw5lUG5wl0] AlJazeera LIVE[/url] [url=http://blogs.aljazeera.net/liveblog/libya]Current LIVE Blog On Libya Courtesy of AlJazeera[/url] [url=http://blogs.aljazeera.net/liveblog/Yemen]Current LIVE Blog on Yemen Courtesy of AlJazeera[/url] [url=http://blogs.aljazeera.net/liveblog/Syria]Current LIVE Blog on Syria Courtesy of AlJazeera[/url] [url=http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world/africa/]BBC Africa[/url] [url=http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world/middle_east/]BBC Middle East[/url] [url=http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/]CBC World News[/url] [quote][/quote] As people seem to still be posting here, I will add this updates again as i see them rather than creating a new thread, if you guys keep posting i'll keep updating. [u]LIBYA[/u] Gaddafi is dead. He was captured after a NATO plane hit his convoy escaping Sirte after the rebels took it earlier today, heavily wounded, he was taken to a hospital in Misurata where he succumbed to his wounds. NATO has confirmed that they hit the convoy, but has not directly seen the body yet. it's worth noting that some other sources say he died under different circumstances, killed by NTC forces in Sirte when found, shot in the head, or shot in both legs and dieing of blood loss. All that is confirmed is he is dead and taken to a location in Misurata 17:01 10/21 [u]LIBYA[/u] The NTC is allowing for the UN to send a 3rd party investigative group to look into the circumstances of Gaddafi's death, after questions were raised by Russia suggesting Gaddafi was executed rather than killed in a crossfire during his trip to hospital in Misurata the NTC maintains he died in crossfire when a firefight broke out around the ambulance he was being carried in. 09:09 10/24 [u]TUNISIA[/u] Due to a massive voter turn out (more than 90% of the country) election results will be announced later today or early tomorrow, due to the extra time needed to count the votes. The Election committee did not expect such enthusiastic turnout and were caught unprepared. The views of the currently leading al Nahda party can be found [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Renaissance_Party#Political_positions]here[/url]. They are pro-western, and follow a Malaysian/Turkish model for allowing Islam to exist but refusing to allow extremism in rule. [u]LIBYA[/u] The NTC has called for an investigation into how Gaddafi died, after allegations going both ways have emerged. The NTC also Announced Libya's formal Liberation yesterday, and said elections will happen in the next 6 to 8 months Gaddafi's second son Saadi, fled to Niger and has been arrested by authorities there. They will hand him over to the NTC. [u]EGYPT[/u] Parliamentary elections are to be held in a matter of weeks, and Presidential Elections to be held in early 2013. There is growing concern in the populous that the SCAF will only allow people to run who had connections to the Mubarak regime, resulting in no change. People are stirring and suggestions of armed revolution in the coming months are floating. [u]YEMEN[/u] The Yemeni government has accepted and agreed to a UNSC resolution that called for Saleh to step down in exchange for immunity, and that condemned the Government's crack down. The government said they would work with the UN on this matter. [u]Syria[/u] The US has withdrawn it's ambassador for security reasons and closed it's embassy in Syria, It is one of the last to do so from western nations. Thanks for paying attention to these major world events, a country's journey to freedom requires the support of the entire world, and even just paying attention helps. [quote][/quote] [Edited on 10.24.2011 8:09 AM PDT]
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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Ins3ktz BF3>MW3 NOT INTO THE LONG GRASS![/quote] IDK what you mean by grass but MW3>BF3

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Mereel N7 [url=http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/sep/07/violence-syria-horrifying-video-clips] Explosion of violence in Syria caught in series of horrifying video clips [/url] [url=http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5iPI6THLmeGORQfhAjf4fpUd6faKg?docId=bc36f02ba3b144e8bc892ffb5ba70acb] Missing weapons from Libya arms caches raise fears [/url] i cannot find a story but 2 convoy's of Libyan military vehicles left entered Niger, but Gaddafi is not believed to be among them.[/quote]What kind of weapons?

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  • [url=http://cnn.com/video/data/2.0/video/world/2011/09/07/watson-syria-violence.cnn.html] more Violence in Homs, Protests spread to Aleppo, the second largest city in the country [/url] CNN video, warning graphic.

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  • BF3>MW3 NOT INTO THE LONG GRASS!

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  • [url=http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/sep/07/violence-syria-horrifying-video-clips] Explosion of violence in Syria caught in series of horrifying video clips [/url] [url=http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5iPI6THLmeGORQfhAjf4fpUd6faKg?docId=bc36f02ba3b144e8bc892ffb5ba70acb] Missing weapons from Libya arms caches raise fears [/url] i cannot find a story but 2 convoy's of Libyan military vehicles left entered Niger, but Gaddafi is not believed to be among them.

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  • [u]LIBYA[/u] the people of Bani Walid have joined the revolution, after pro-gaddafi gunmen fired on some vilage elders who were negotiating with the NTC. The NTC expects some small resistance over the next few days from small armed groups.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] I Em I Raptor "China is the sole member of the UNSC that is stopping the release of Libyan funds to the NTC, held under resolution 1973" Its always China and or Russia slowing the process down for no reason. Maybe in the futur it will be different.[/quote]China mentality..."If it doesn't benefit us it won't happen".

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  • "China is the sole member of the UNSC that is stopping the release of Libyan funds to the NTC, held under resolution 1973" Its always China and or Russia slowing the process down for no reason. Maybe in the futur it will be different.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Archon170 Its good to see people fighting an oppressive regime, on thier own terms. I hope North Korea follows thier example.[/quote] unlikely, they are a closed off country that has had their populace basically brain washed.

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  • Its good to see people fighting an oppressive regime, on thier own terms. I hope North Korea follows thier example.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] ExquisiteDragon [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Mereel N7 [url=http://www.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/africa/09/03/libya.war/] Gadhafi loyalists given one more week to surrender [/url] also i think there is something in here about the NTC being invited to Moscow. [url=http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/africaandindianocean/libya/8739349/Libya-Over-800-killed-in-battle-for-Gaddafis-home-town-of-Sirte.html] Libya: Over 800 killed in battle for Gaddafi's home town of Sirte [/url] these are Rebels supporters and not soldiers to my understanding. [url=http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/09/03/syria-idUSLDE78200Y20110903] EU targets Syrian oil firms, says may get tougher [/url][/quote]And what happens if they do not surrender?[/quote] my guess would be that the Rebels would attack their positions until they surrender or are all killed. [url=http://www.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/meast/09/05/egypt.mubarak.trial/] Mubarak returns to Cairo court; police, families clash outside [/url] [url=http://www.nytimes.com/2011/09/06/world/middleeast/06syria.html] Syrian Troops Launch New Raids Against Protesters [/url] [url=http://af.reuters.com/article/energyOilNews/idAFL5E7K529220110905] Syria opens prisons for first Red Cross visits-ICRC [/url] [url=http://english.aljazeera.net/news/africa/2011/09/201195102810643671.html] China acknowledges Libya arms talks [/url] [url=http://www.smh.com.au/world/libyan-rebels-massing-as-talks-fail-20110905-1ju65.html] Libyan rebels massing as talks fail [/url] [Edited on 09.05.2011 8:03 AM PDT]

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Phoenix1330 [u]GAZA[/u] Turkey has cut all ties with Israel and suspended all NATO military contracts through Turkey to Israel after [u]Israeli commandos boarded a Turkish ship and killed 9 Turkish citizens protesting the violence in the area.[/u] [/quote] To be fair, this happend over a year ago. Also, they were not your average "citizen", but of course the media won't report that. [Edited on 09.04.2011 9:04 PM PDT]

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Mereel N7 [url=http://www.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/africa/09/03/libya.war/] Gadhafi loyalists given one more week to surrender [/url] also i think there is something in here about the NTC being invited to Moscow. [url=http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/africaandindianocean/libya/8739349/Libya-Over-800-killed-in-battle-for-Gaddafis-home-town-of-Sirte.html] Libya: Over 800 killed in battle for Gaddafi's home town of Sirte [/url] these are Rebels supporters and not soldiers to my understanding. [url=http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/09/03/syria-idUSLDE78200Y20110903] EU targets Syrian oil firms, says may get tougher [/url][/quote]And what happens if they do not surrender?

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  • [u]LIBYA[/u] The NTC has announced that the drafting on the interim constitution will be modelled after the Canadian Bill of Rights. There is also talk of the NTC inviting the JTF2 advisers to take a direct role in securing Gaddafi's Mustard Gas and chemical weapon stockpiles to ensure they do not fall into the wrong hands. It is becoming more and more apparent that the CIA had, at least until 2004, very strong ties with the Libyan Intelligence agencies, even go so far as using them as a 'torture friendly' interrogation service. Russia has invited the NTC to Moscow to discuss Russian energy contracts in Libya. a broad action asking for the surrender of Gaddafi supporting cities has been put out, giving them all one week to surrender. Until such a time the NTC will not go about disarming the revolutionaries. This doesn't apply to Bani Walid, where they have given them to tomorrow, due to suspecting Gaddafi officials in the city. In the mean time, they will lay siege to the cities, supplying them only with humanitarian supplies. China is the sole member of the UNSC that is stopping the release of Libyan funds to the NTC, held under resolution 1973, Russia recognized the NTC as the legitimate government. [u]GAZA[/u] Turkey has cut all ties with Israel and suspended all NATO military contracts through Turkey to Israel after Israeli commandos boarded a Turkish ship and killed 9 Turkish citizens protesting the violence in the area.

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  • [url=http://www.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/africa/09/03/libya.war/] Gadhafi loyalists given one more week to surrender [/url] also i think there is something in here about the NTC being invited to Moscow. [url=http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/africaandindianocean/libya/8739349/Libya-Over-800-killed-in-battle-for-Gaddafis-home-town-of-Sirte.html] Libya: Over 800 killed in battle for Gaddafi's home town of Sirte [/url] these are Rebels supporters and not soldiers to my understanding. [url=http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/09/03/syria-idUSLDE78200Y20110903] EU targets Syrian oil firms, says may get tougher [/url]

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  • [url]http://articles.cnn.com/2011-08-29/world/iran.opposition.detention_1_opposition-leader-iranian-authorities-mehdi-karrubi?_s=PM:WORLD[/url] Iranian Opposition leader missing for six weeks

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Phoenix1330 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Mereel N7 any major news in Syria? all i'm really seeing is that the US and UK want a tougher stance on what is going on over there. i also can't find any news on the Rebels move on Sirte, seems to have dropped off the grid.[/quote]The rebels gave them till Saturday to surrender instead of just attacking[/quote] well they are giving them a chance to surrender, so i guess this is wait and see now. [Edited on 09.01.2011 5:47 PM PDT]

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Mereel N7 any major news in Syria? all i'm really seeing is that the US and UK want a tougher stance on what is going on over there. [/quote][url=http://english.aljazeera.net/news/middleeast/2011/09/201191214032851352.html]not really [/url] [quote]i also can't find any news on the Rebels move on Sirte, seems to have dropped off the grid.[/quote][url=http://english.aljazeera.net/news/africa/2011/09/2011911312986151.html]they're giving him a chance to surrender before attacking[/url]

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Mereel N7 any major news in Syria? all i'm really seeing is that the US and UK want a tougher stance on what is going on over there. i also can't find any news on the Rebels move on Sirte, seems to have dropped off the grid.[/quote]The rebels gave them till Saturday to surrender instead of just attacking

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  • any major news in Syria? all i'm really seeing is that the US and UK want a tougher stance on what is going on over there. i also can't find any news on the Rebels move on Sirte, seems to have dropped off the grid.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] lonepaul2441 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] ExquisiteDragon [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Ultermarto [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] lonepaul2441 Is it sad that im not surprised by those American officials actions? The US has always been trying to keep somebody they like power even at the cost of lives and they are no different to Russia or China in that respect. And they are doing it under the nose of their Allies to. (Yes im aware it was a small group of people in America help Gaddafi).[/quote] mhm. With no offence to the states, America's government seems to be showing more and more corruption as the world unfolds itself.[/quote]Republicans....I'm not joking. Back on topic or me, the U.S. needs to be more careful when supporting any more nations. [/quote]How can you blame one side of the political spectrum? Isn't Obama like Labour is for the UK? Or are the guys who support Gaddafi republicans? Either way America is showing its true colours more and more eventually we are going to see the true USA unless the people take action 1st.[/quote]The difference between a Republican and a Democrat...when a republican talks about money they make it very clear publicly that they have a personal agenda vs a Democrat. You just gotta watch the reaction of the suit when the media and general public challenge the suits' decisions.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] lonepaul2441 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] ExquisiteDragon [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Ultermarto [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] lonepaul2441 Is it sad that im not surprised by those American officials actions? The US has always been trying to keep somebody they like power even at the cost of lives and they are no different to Russia or China in that respect. And they are doing it under the nose of their Allies to. (Yes im aware it was a small group of people in America help Gaddafi).[/quote] mhm. With no offence to the states, America's government seems to be showing more and more corruption as the world unfolds itself.[/quote]Republicans....I'm not joking. Back on topic or me, the U.S. needs to be more careful when supporting any more nations. [/quote]How can you blame one side of the political spectrum? Isn't Obama like Labour is for the UK? Or are the guys who support Gaddafi republicans? Either way America is showing its true colours more and more eventually we are going to see the true USA unless the people take action 1st.[/quote] If the actions of one congressman represented all of the American government, then the Fed doesn't exist and we're on the gold standard. That's just what Ron Paul said but it represents all of us now apparently. It's like the movie Shooter with Mark Wahlberg. There's one congressman paying the guy to frame Marky Mark for shooting the archbishop but the others are doing important political stuff like having a pissing contest. And last time I checked several US lawmakers supported the NTC and the no-fly zone in Libya, so why claim that the one congressman who genuinely supports Gaddafi is representative of our "true colors"? Actions speak louder than words, especially with politicians, and I'd say being a big part of the Rent-An-Air-Support for the NTC is a pretty loud action. [Edited on 09.01.2011 6:52 AM PDT]

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] ExquisiteDragon [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Ultermarto [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] lonepaul2441 Is it sad that im not surprised by those American officials actions? The US has always been trying to keep somebody they like power even at the cost of lives and they are no different to Russia or China in that respect. And they are doing it under the nose of their Allies to. (Yes im aware it was a small group of people in America help Gaddafi).[/quote] mhm. With no offence to the states, America's government seems to be showing more and more corruption as the world unfolds itself.[/quote]Republicans....I'm not joking. Back on topic or me, the U.S. needs to be more careful when supporting any more nations. [/quote]How can you blame one side of the political spectrum? Isn't Obama like Labour is for the UK? Or are the guys who support Gaddafi republicans? Either way America is showing its true colours more and more eventually we are going to see the true USA unless the people take action 1st.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Ultermarto [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] ExquisiteDragon Is it sad that im not surprised by those American officials actions? The US has always been trying to keep somebody they like power even at the cost of lives and they are no different to Russia or China in that respect. And they are doing it under the nose of their Allies to. (Yes im aware it was a small group of people in America help Gaddafi).[/quote] mhm. With no offence to the states, America's government seems to be showing more and more corruption as the world unfolds itself.[/quote]Republicans....I'm not joking. Back on topic or me, the U.S. needs to be more careful when supporting any more nations. [/quote] I think before we draw any conclusions about this we need to know why the individuals tried to support Gaddafi. Furthermore I remind you that there is no law against supporting someone, even him.[/quote]Self preservation. we supported the Taliban to halt the spread of Communism...who's to say we're not doing it again. [/quote] I fail to comprehend those motives but It wouldn't be the first time...[/quote]What is it that you don't understand? Perhaps I can shed some light for you?

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] ExquisiteDragon [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Ultermarto [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] ExquisiteDragon [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Ultermarto [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] lonepaul2441 Is it sad that im not surprised by those American officials actions? The US has always been trying to keep somebody they like power even at the cost of lives and they are no different to Russia or China in that respect. And they are doing it under the nose of their Allies to. (Yes im aware it was a small group of people in America help Gaddafi).[/quote] mhm. With no offence to the states, America's government seems to be showing more and more corruption as the world unfolds itself.[/quote]Republicans....I'm not joking. Back on topic or me, the U.S. needs to be more careful when supporting any more nations. [/quote] I think before we draw any conclusions about this we need to know why the individuals tried to support Gaddafi. Furthermore I remind you that there is no law against supporting someone, even him.[/quote]Self preservation. we supported the Taliban to halt the spread of Communism...who's to say we're not doing it again. [/quote] I fail to comprehend those motives but It wouldn't be the first time...

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Ultermarto [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] ExquisiteDragon [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Ultermarto [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] lonepaul2441 Is it sad that im not surprised by those American officials actions? The US has always been trying to keep somebody they like power even at the cost of lives and they are no different to Russia or China in that respect. And they are doing it under the nose of their Allies to. (Yes im aware it was a small group of people in America help Gaddafi).[/quote] mhm. With no offence to the states, America's government seems to be showing more and more corruption as the world unfolds itself.[/quote]Republicans....I'm not joking. Back on topic or me, the U.S. needs to be more careful when supporting any more nations. [/quote] I think before we draw any conclusions about this we need to know why the individuals tried to support Gaddafi. Furthermore I remind you that there is no law against supporting someone, even him.[/quote]Self preservation. we supported the Taliban to halt the spread of Communism...who's to say we're not doing it again. Also, there may be no law against it but you can bet your ass that there are consequences. The Feds can't fall back on the excuse like "oh, we didn't know he was a -blam!- maniac". If someone like me can second guess who is a sociopath than I'm damn sure the Feds can profile someone like Gadaffi. [Edited on 09.01.2011 6:10 AM PDT]

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