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Why Adult Entertainment Videos Can Do Harm - Discussion

[b]-FLAME SUIT ON!-[/b] [b]Disclaimer:[/b] [i]In this thread, I will argue my point as to why in my view p0rn videos do harm, this thread is also aimed at straight men, but most of the principles still can apply to women and -blam!--blam!-s. Before you all attack me in your replies for what ever reason, I would like to you read what I have to say. I am not looking at this from a religious or moral angle, but rather showing examples that could happen in real life. I do not want this to be a religious thread, and I do not want this to become a flat out insulting match between two sides, if it does reach that point, I will inform moderators of what is going on and ask them to lock the thread. Also, please no one post links to anything including nudity as there is no real age limit on these forums. Also, to any moderators who may read this, if you feel that discussion has become to explicit, or that my original post breaches the rules (I don't see how it should, as in nearly every thread there is at least one post closely related to what I am talking about) please lock. Ok, with that out the way, let me continue...[/i] There are three reasons I can see why it would do damage, as such, I will split the rest of this post into three parts. [b]1. Expectation[/b] This can harm relationships for two reasons, first is that for all those people who haven't had sex yet (AKA 99% of the flood) it boosts expectations beyond what can be equaled. You will want your girl friend/wife to look and act like the women you are used to seeing, and as such she isn't adequate. This is known to be the case. If you want to be married, and over time you become bored with your wife, you will want something that looks more like the unnaturally good looking women you have seen in the videos you watch. This will (and has often) led to affairs and break ups in relationships, as well as the man involved feeling resentment to their partner as they don't feel like they are getting what they should. [b]2. Addiction[/b] Most often, if you are in a long term relationship, you're wife/girlfriend wont want you to look at other people having sex. This is very understandable, the only problem is, that many people are addicted (or so they claim) to watching p0rn and -blam!-ion. Most often people seem to think that once they are in a relationship they wont need to resort to over ways of -blam!- stimulation, but in long term relationships (and coupled with the first point I made) means that they resort back to the original method, and cannot give it up, even when their partner finds out about it. [b]3. Objectification[/b] If you are used to having women do what ever you want, when ever you want, when watching videos on your computer, then if you think you do or not, you are making them simply an image or object, which exists only to enhance the way you feel. When this comes to a partner, you may be great friends with them in other occasions, but you will have objectified the female body and the -blam!- act as something simply for your own gain. Sure this isn't for everyone, but for many people it is. Men sometimes asks their parters for a threesome with another woman, but are opposed to their partner asking for a threesome with another man involved. In my eyes neither are right, but if thats what you are into or not, you must see the double standard. If those jokes about the perfect woman being some one who only makes sandwiches and being naked weren't based in anything, they wouldn't exist and people wouldn't find them funny. This also applies to other forms of sex which men like the idea of and women don't want to do, yet they are pressured into. [b]Conclusion[/b] I am not trying to judge anyone, but I have seen too many relationships and marriages break up because of this. Most people probably don't think of how it will effect them in the future, but they need to. Because if they don't address the issue at least, the adult videos will do harm. (clearly, there are some exceptions to the points, such as your partner watching it with you, or them not caring, but this isn't everyone, so the points still stand for those who do care) Again, I am not telling you how to live, just giving you food for thought. So, what is your view? Do you think that you should try and give it up now, before you get into a relationship, or how else should you live your life? [i]- JFKES[/i] [Edited on 02.10.2011 2:02 PM PST]
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  • But on the plus side, it stops many of the more perverted and desperate amongst us from doing anything crazy. Besides, whilst I do not watch it myself its a good stimulation for -blam!-ion, which is a very healthy act to do. It may be frowned upon, but it also does a lot of good too.

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  • Well, I don't watch it, so by the looks of it I'm unaffected.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] superfonz666 Okay. My first problem with this is that your analysis of objectification is extremely sexist. Towards men. -blam!- objecifies men in exactly the same way as it objectifies women. Seriously. Compare your trouser snake to that of O.G Mudbone and every other adult film actor, and then tell me that's not causing unrealistic expectations for a male appearance. Because it bleedin' well is. Infact the amazing Athiest mentioned it in one of his videos; It may have been in "feminism sucks" but I am not sure. Additionally it puts pressure on males to over-build (I hope this is the right term) their muscles. This is on exactly the same scale as the adult film actresses who have had thousands of (insert currency here) worth of cosmetic surgery.[/quote]It is not sexist in the slightest, I said I was aiming this towards men. Of course there is objectification of men as well, how does that make it any better? To use an old saying, two wrongs don't make a right. [quote]Another point is this; Said women would not have had this surgery if they did't WANT to be objectified; being objectified is their JOB for crying out loud. I know, I know, not all of them "enjoy" it and were "forced into it" (as if there were no alternatives).[/quote]Actually quite a lot of the p0rn industry involves people who are forced into it. Plus I am saying that the objectification of the women you watch often means you will objectify your partners. That is where the problems arise. [quote]Look at some of the ameture films. These are normal couples enjoying consensual intercourse not soley for you, the viewers pleasure, but because THEY enjoy it.[/quote] Because filming yourself doing him makes it more enjoyable doesn't it? They do it for money. [quote]Also there will always be a demand for adult film because people enjoy watching it. Not for the purpose of ojectifying peope, however, as many have been indocrinated to believe.[/quote]I came up with this idea myself, no one told it to me. If anything you have been indoctrinated by the internet says that you can watch p0rn with no recessionals, which quite clearly isn't true. Plus what you said about people watch it for enjoyment not to objectify women, I would say that you don't smoke in order to die from it, it is a result that you have little to no control over. [quote]Do you not have a sex drive? do you not have a "mojo"? Have you never walked down the high street, casually glanced at a member of the opposite gender and thought, "I would"? Of course you have, and if you say otherwise, you are lying because you've been wrongly taught that it is wrong to have such desires. Raep is wrong, but a want for intercourse is not, because it's bleedin' biological and necessary.[/quote]Of course I have a sex drive. But the whole "I would" is a sign that our society is objectifying women (and men). If it was a simple basic instinct, then we would naturally want to breed with the most healthy women, which isn't the case. It is because of things like p0rn that we look for women to be perfect, and we think that we can think about having sex with them if we want to. You see yes it is the sex drive, but it has been changed thanks to thinks like p0rn. [i]- JFKES[/i]

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  • I'm a man and I don't watch pr0n anymore.

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  • First amendment. Also I won't read a wall of text online for my own enjoyment.

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  • I went ahead and read through your post. The angle on how it can damage relationships was newer than most of what else you post. It was well thought out, and it's nice to see people trying to post this stuff. GJ OP.

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  • P0rnography is "Hollywoodized" reality just like most movies or shows that have this unrealistic approach to real life are. If you can separate the two and appreciate real life for what it is and know that what happens in most p0rn is not a standard of shmexual intercourse, then it is not harmful. It CAN be harmful, it can cause addictions to both mashterbation, and the p0rnography itself, but these are individually based cases and cannot be representative for the entire population. Having this discussion while attempting to spell properly is impossible thanks to the swear filter. Awesome. [Edited on 02.10.2011 10:00 AM PST]

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  • XXX media is really no different from any other media, in that it can interfer with your daily life if used too much and that in some people it can cause desensitization towards to the subject matter. In regards to relationships specifically, the effects are far too subjective to really pin blame on the media itself. I know two couples that actively watch -blam!- together, as it makes them more creative and spices things up for them. On the other hand I know a few women personally that find viewing of -blam!- by their SO's to be a betrayal akin to that of infidelity. IMO, like anything else in a relationship, it's simply a matter of communication and understanding. You need to talk it over with your partner, find out their position, identify eachothers needs, and try to come to common ground. Men aren't the only one's that have high drive, there are more and more women every year turning to adult entertainment and sex toys as means of pleasure. Bottom line, it's only as harmful to a relationship as the couple allows it to be. If it offends one and the other doesn't care enough to stop, then that says quite a bit about the relationship anyway.

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  • The court has ruled the p0rn industry as a good thing. Not only does produce money, but it puts people to work. It is a self choice to look at it, and it does not destroy relationships. Court has ruled that the OP is opinionated. Bailiff take the OP away! -The Judge

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] JFKES [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] mahspoonis2big [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] JFKES I think that if you are already had a relationship before you watch p0rn, its effects are reduced, but still there. Out of a poll taken in England, over 50% of children under the age of 10 had watched at least one p0rn video. [i]- JFKES[/i][/quote]XXX videos actually made me pretty secksually intelligent in my first relationship. From the get-go I was pretty good at what I was doing. I only see them as a benefit to society.[/quote]You can think that, but the fact remains that many long term relationships suffer because of it. [i]- JFKES[/i][/quote]You can think that, but the fact is those long-term relationships obviously weren't going to work out anyway.

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  • I don't think any of those apply to reasonably decent and smart people.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] JFKES [b]2. Addiction[/b] Most often, if you are in a long term relationship, you're wife/girlfriend wont want you to look at other people having sex. This is very understandable][/quote] actually there are many girls/women that love to watch it just as much as boys/men it keeps the the relationship interesting and not boring

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] mahspoonis2big [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] JFKES I think that if you are already had a relationship before you watch p0rn, its effects are reduced, but still there. Out of a poll taken in England, over 50% of children under the age of 10 had watched at least one p0rn video. [i]- JFKES[/i][/quote]XXX videos actually made me pretty secksually intelligent in my first relationship. From the get-go I was pretty good at what I was doing. I only see them as a benefit to society.[/quote]You can think that, but the fact remains that many long term relationships suffer because of it. [i]- JFKES[/i]

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  • Some things I agree with. Some I disagree with. Regardless, I think I personally have enough control over my [i]videos[/i] to not make it an issue, so...I'm not giving them up.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] JFKES I think that if you are already had a relationship before you watch p0rn, its effects are reduced, but still there. Out of a poll taken in England, over 50% of children under the age of 10 had watched at least one p0rn video. [i]- JFKES[/i][/quote]XXX videos actually made me pretty secksually intelligent in my first relationship. From the get-go I was pretty good at what I was doing. I only see them as a benefit to society.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Sacred Flea I should probably take notice of this thread, however... No, in all seriousness you prove some good points, and there isn't really a way that you can argue that p0rn is good. So A* from Professor Flea.[/quote]Thank you :) [i]- JFKES[/i]

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] TARDISdude TL;DR[/quote]

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] ToastyWaffles [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] kevin paul 90 Op must be a girl right? This whole thing looks like something an uneducated feminist would write[/quote] Well I'm a bloke, and I largely agree with this. The OP does focus more on the negative effects of Pr0nz on women than on men, but I think that's because less women watch pr0nz and objectify men in the same way, but I (and the OP too, hopefully) acknowledge that men can be objectified too.[/quote]This is correct. I am a guy and actually I am opposed to many of the feminist views, as I think they take some good ideas and exaggerate them to the extreme. [i]- JFKES[/i]

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] JDYeash937 MkII If you learn about something called society before you start watching pr0n, then none of these ought to apply to you. That said, a significant proportion of children believe that CoD is true-to-life, so that shows that idea.[/quote]I think that if you are already had a relationship before you watch p0rn, its effects are reduced, but still there. Out of a poll taken in England, over 50% of children under the age of 10 had watched at least one p0rn video. [i]- JFKES[/i]

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] TARDISdude TL;DR[/quote] TL;DRM I'm only a virgin a) cuz it's against the law I'm only 14. and b) Well i havnt had a GF in like a year. I got 1 now tho

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] kevin paul 90 Op must be a girl right? This whole thing looks like something an uneducated feminist would write[/quote] Well I'm a bloke, and I largely agree with this. The OP does focus more on the negative effects of Pr0nz on women than on men, but I think that's because less women watch pr0nz and objectify men in the same way, but I (and the OP too, hopefully) acknowledge that men can be objectified too. [Edited on 02.10.2011 9:11 AM PST]

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  • [url=http://z0r.de/2531]Relevant[/url]

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  • Op must be a girl right? This whole thing looks like something an uneducated feminist would write

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] superfonz666 [b]3. Objectification[/b] If you are used to having women do what ever you want, when ever you want, when watching videos on your computer, then if you think you do or not, you are making them simply an image or object, which exists only to enhance the way you feel. When this comes to a partner, you may be great friends with them in other occasions, but you will have objectified the female body and the -blam!- act as something simply for your own gain. Sure this isn't for everyone, but for many people it is. Men sometimes asks their parters for a threesome with another woman, but are opposed to their partner asking for a threesome with another man involved. In my eyes neither are right, but if thats what you are into or not, you must see the double standard. If those jokes about the perfect woman being some one who only makes sandwiches and being naked weren't based in anything, they wouldn't exist and people wouldn't find them funny. This also applies to other forms of sex which men like the idea of and women don't want to do, yet they are pressured into. Okay. My first problem with this is that your analysis of objectification is extremely sexist. Towards men. -blam!- objecifies men in exactly the same way as it objectifies women. Seriously. Compare your trouser snake to that of O.G Mudbone and every other adult film actor, and then tell me that's not causing unrealistic expectations for a male appearance. Because it bleedin' well is. Infact the amazing Athiest mentioned it in one of his videos; It may have been in "feminism sucks" but I am not sure. Additionally it puts pressure on males to over-build (I hope this is the right term) their muscles. This is on exactly the same scale as the adult film actresses who have had thousands of (insert currency here) worth of cosmetic surgery. Another point is this; Said women would not have had this surgery if they did't WANT to be objectified; being objectified is their JOB for crying out loud. I know, I know, not all of them "enjoy" it and were "forced into it" (as if there were no alternatives). Look at some of the ameture films. These are normal couples enjoying consensual intercourse not soley for you, the viewers pleasure, but because THEY enjoy it. Also there will always be a demand for adult film because people enjoy watching it. Not for the purpose of ojectifying peope, however, as many have been indocrinated to believe. Do you not have a sex drive? do you not have a "mojo"? Have you never walked down the high street, casually glanced at a member of the opposite gender and thought, "I would"? Of course you have, and if you say otherwise, you are lying because you've been wrongly taught that it is wrong to have such desires. -blam!- is wrong, but a want for intercourse is not, because it's bleedin' biological and necessary. Arg. I will ammend any mistakes if they are pointed out, this was written in one disgruntled session. wow......... [/quote]

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  • They all partially apply to me.

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  • All I'm going to say, is that if you break up because of XXX videos, you were never going to last in the first place.

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