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Why Adult Entertainment Videos Can Do Harm - Discussion

[b]-FLAME SUIT ON!-[/b] [b]Disclaimer:[/b] [i]In this thread, I will argue my point as to why in my view p0rn videos do harm, this thread is also aimed at straight men, but most of the principles still can apply to women and -blam!--blam!-s. Before you all attack me in your replies for what ever reason, I would like to you read what I have to say. I am not looking at this from a religious or moral angle, but rather showing examples that could happen in real life. I do not want this to be a religious thread, and I do not want this to become a flat out insulting match between two sides, if it does reach that point, I will inform moderators of what is going on and ask them to lock the thread. Also, please no one post links to anything including nudity as there is no real age limit on these forums. Also, to any moderators who may read this, if you feel that discussion has become to explicit, or that my original post breaches the rules (I don't see how it should, as in nearly every thread there is at least one post closely related to what I am talking about) please lock. Ok, with that out the way, let me continue...[/i] There are three reasons I can see why it would do damage, as such, I will split the rest of this post into three parts. [b]1. Expectation[/b] This can harm relationships for two reasons, first is that for all those people who haven't had sex yet (AKA 99% of the flood) it boosts expectations beyond what can be equaled. You will want your girl friend/wife to look and act like the women you are used to seeing, and as such she isn't adequate. This is known to be the case. If you want to be married, and over time you become bored with your wife, you will want something that looks more like the unnaturally good looking women you have seen in the videos you watch. This will (and has often) led to affairs and break ups in relationships, as well as the man involved feeling resentment to their partner as they don't feel like they are getting what they should. [b]2. Addiction[/b] Most often, if you are in a long term relationship, you're wife/girlfriend wont want you to look at other people having sex. This is very understandable, the only problem is, that many people are addicted (or so they claim) to watching p0rn and -blam!-ion. Most often people seem to think that once they are in a relationship they wont need to resort to over ways of -blam!- stimulation, but in long term relationships (and coupled with the first point I made) means that they resort back to the original method, and cannot give it up, even when their partner finds out about it. [b]3. Objectification[/b] If you are used to having women do what ever you want, when ever you want, when watching videos on your computer, then if you think you do or not, you are making them simply an image or object, which exists only to enhance the way you feel. When this comes to a partner, you may be great friends with them in other occasions, but you will have objectified the female body and the -blam!- act as something simply for your own gain. Sure this isn't for everyone, but for many people it is. Men sometimes asks their parters for a threesome with another woman, but are opposed to their partner asking for a threesome with another man involved. In my eyes neither are right, but if thats what you are into or not, you must see the double standard. If those jokes about the perfect woman being some one who only makes sandwiches and being naked weren't based in anything, they wouldn't exist and people wouldn't find them funny. This also applies to other forms of sex which men like the idea of and women don't want to do, yet they are pressured into. [b]Conclusion[/b] I am not trying to judge anyone, but I have seen too many relationships and marriages break up because of this. Most people probably don't think of how it will effect them in the future, but they need to. Because if they don't address the issue at least, the adult videos will do harm. (clearly, there are some exceptions to the points, such as your partner watching it with you, or them not caring, but this isn't everyone, so the points still stand for those who do care) Again, I am not telling you how to live, just giving you food for thought. So, what is your view? Do you think that you should try and give it up now, before you get into a relationship, or how else should you live your life? [i]- JFKES[/i] [Edited on 02.10.2011 2:02 PM PST]
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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] JFKES [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] MideonNViscera So I should be willing to live my life with some uggo because she has a good personality? I know we teach children that life is a fairy tale, but it doesn't actually work that way.[/quote]If you are in a long term relationship with someone simply because they are good looking, don't you think that is slightly shallow? [i]- JFKES[/i][/quote] Looks and personality aren't mutally exclusive. I need both. Some only need one or the other. You forget that a thousand years ago, long before pr0n, Kings and people in positions of power would have harems of beautiful women. Humans just like attractive humans. It's always been that way and always will be. We just recently figured out the best way to exploit it.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] o S IE C IR E T If these truly have an effect on one's relationship, then perhaps the relationship isn't as tightly knit as once thought. If you truly have feelings for somebody on the emotional level, this should never be an issue, because if it does, it proves that these are either fostered feelings or she is there simply for the entertainment. I put value into relationships more than others, so I think. I cannot see myself falling prey to any of the aforementioned.[/quote]So is it ok for someone to cheat on another person, and then not giving up cheating? To the wife/girlfriend they are both very similar. They are pleasuring themselves over a different woman. [i]- JFKES[/i]

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] JFKES [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] MideonNViscera Objectification: Get a girl who does what you want in bed.[/quote]That is playing along with objectification, not an answer for it. You should love the individual. [i]- JFKES[/i][/quote] -blam!- or not, if you do not have a relationship that is -blam!-ly satisfying to both parties, it will most likely not last. Sex is a BIG part of a lasting relationship between two mature people, loving the individual has little to do with mutual physical attraction and chemistry. [Edited on 02.10.2011 10:58 AM PST]

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  • Not only are there studies that say [url=http://www.medindia.net/news/Watching-Porn-Not-Bad-for-Men-Study-61832-1.htm]adult entertainment isn't bad for you[/url], but, in fact, there are studies that say [url=http://authspot.com/thoughts/watching-porn-can-be-good-for-you/]it can in fact be good for you[/url].

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  • If these truly have an effect on one's relationship, then perhaps the relationship isn't as tightly knit as once thought. If you truly have feelings for somebody on the emotional level, this should never be an issue, because if it does, it proves that these are either fostered feelings or she is there simply for the entertainment. I put value into relationships more than others, so I think. I cannot see myself falling prey to any of the aforementioned.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] MideonNViscera So I should be willing to live my life with some uggo because she has a good personality? I know we teach children that life is a fairy tale, but it doesn't actually work that way.[/quote]If you are in a long term relationship with someone simply because they are good looking, don't you think that is slightly shallow? [i]- JFKES[/i]

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] MideonNViscera People have such varied desires and fetishes that the idea of pr0n somehow influencing that to any dangerous degree is completely ridiculous.[/quote]It is dangerous to relationships, and to say it isn't is simply not looking at what is presented in front of us. We choose to not believe the facts, because we have been convinced by the internet that there is nothing bad that happens as a result. People need to wake up and see the truth. [i]- JFKES[/i]

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  • All valid points.

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  • So I should be willing to live my life with some uggo because she has a good personality? I know we teach children that life is a fairy tale, but it doesn't actually work that way.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] JFKES [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] SweetTRIX [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] JFKES [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] mahspoonis2big [url=http://forum.cheatengine.org/files/what_the_-blam!-_am_i_reading_copy_142_447.jpg]How is society giving us our sex drive?[/url][/quote]I never said that it was, but it changed what we find attractive. In some African cultures, being overweight is attractive, as it shows wealth. In our culture, some one objectifying themselves is seen as attractive. [i]- JFKES[/i][/quote] What? You do realize that the adult entertainment industry follows trends of attraction right? They don't set them.[/quote]Clearly, but they take them to new levels. Take for example some people finding big breasts attractive. This developed into something totally ridiculous, yet people want it. P0rn develops our attractions and further objectifies those involved. [i]- JFKES[/i][/quote] I disagree, -blam!- does little more than to visualize a persons fantasy, hence why it is offered in so many flavors. Peoples perversions have been around since, well, people. Stating that -blam!- is responsible for shaping such things is ignorant at best, if anything it simply feeds of perversions already in place. IMO The only thing the adult entertainment industry increases is accessibility.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] MideonNViscera Expectation: Get a girl who looks the way you want.[/quote]How many people look like p0rn stars? Even if they are good looking, they normally wont look as good as what they are used to, making them want to return to p0rn. [quote]Addiction: Get a girl who lets you beat off.[/quote]Maybe, but surely she would rather you don't do it over another girl, and would rather you not do it at all. [quote]Objectification: Get a girl who does what you want in bed.[/quote]That is playing along with objectification, not an answer for it. You should love the individual. [quote]Oh look, problem solved.[/quote]It seems not... [i]- JFKES[/i]

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  • People have such varied desires and fetishes that the idea of pr0n somehow influencing that to any dangerous degree is completely ridiculous. [Edited on 02.10.2011 10:48 AM PST]

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] DRO kid510 Your thread lost its validity the moment you started throwing out random numbers for statistics.[/quote]The only statistic I made was a joke about the flood. I will remove it if you don't like it. [i]- JFKES[/i]

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] SweetTRIX [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] JFKES [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] mahspoonis2big [url=http://forum.cheatengine.org/files/what_the_fuck_am_i_reading_copy_142_447.jpg]How is society giving us our sex drive?[/url][/quote]I never said that it was, but it changed what we find attractive. In some African cultures, being overweight is attractive, as it shows wealth. In our culture, some one objectifying themselves is seen as attractive. [i]- JFKES[/i][/quote] What? You do realize that the adult entertainment industry follows trends of attraction right? They don't set them.[/quote]Clearly, but they take them to new levels. Take for example some people finding big breasts attractive. This developed into something totally ridiculous, yet people want it. P0rn develops our attractions and further objectifies those involved. [i]- JFKES[/i]

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  • Your thread lost its validity the moment you started throwing out random numbers for statistics.

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  • Expectation: Get a girl who looks the way you want. Addiction: Get a girl who lets you beat off. Objectification: Get a girl who does what you want in bed. Oh look, problem solved.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] JFKES [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] mahspoonis2big [url=http://forum.cheatengine.org/files/what_the_-blam!-_am_i_reading_copy_142_447.jpg]How is society giving us our sex drive?[/url][/quote]I never said that it was, but it changed what we find attractive. In some African cultures, being overweight is attractive, as it shows wealth. In our culture, some one objectifying themselves is seen as attractive. [i]- JFKES[/i][/quote] What? You do realize that the adult entertainment industry follows trends of attraction right? They don't set them. Only a VERY immature person would watch -blam!- with the expectation that a typical women would behave such a way at the drop of a hat. [Edited on 02.10.2011 10:45 AM PST]

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] mahspoonis2big [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] JFKES [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] A Blind Wolf Here's a video of a guy refuting 100 reasons why pr0nz is "bad" [url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KRzf3ghIZJI]It's 41 minutes long but it's worth learning that your thoughts on pr0nz are stupid, OP[/url][/quote]P0rn can break up relationships, I know that for a fact. I know of a married couple that have split up because of it. I don't care what that video says, its true. So you can think that it is correct, but do you think you could give it up if your girlfriend/wife wanted you to? [i]- JFKES[/i][/quote]Are you one of those people that applies the results of a few instances to the entirety of the matter at hand? You do realize that's a logical fallacy, right?[/quote]What, so you think that the vast majority of the p0rn watching population could give it up for their wife/girlfriend? You must have seen how many of the flood have confessed to being addicted and not being able to give it up. I know of [b]many[/b] cases where the person tries to give it up, but can't and it effects relationships. [i]- JFKES[/i]

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] mahspoonis2big [url=http://forum.cheatengine.org/files/what_the_fuck_am_i_reading_copy_142_447.jpg]How is society giving us our sex drive?[/url][/quote]I never said that it was, but it changed what we find attractive. In some African cultures, being overweight is attractive, as it shows wealth. In our culture, some one objectifying themselves is seen as attractive. [i]- JFKES[/i]

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] JFKES [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] A Blind Wolf Here's a video of a guy refuting 100 reasons why pr0nz is "bad" [url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KRzf3ghIZJI]It's 41 minutes long but it's worth learning that your thoughts on pr0nz are stupid, OP[/url][/quote]P0rn can break up relationships, I know that for a fact. I know of a married couple that have split up because of it. I don't care what that video says, its true. So you can think that it is correct, but do you think you could give it up if your girlfriend/wife wanted you to? [i]- JFKES[/i][/quote]Are you one of those people that applies the results of a few instances to the entirety of the matter at hand? You do realize that's a logical fallacy, right?

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  • [url=http://forum.cheatengine.org/files/what_the_fuck_am_i_reading_copy_142_447.jpg]How is society giving us our sex drive?[/url]

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] A Blind Wolf Here's a video of a guy refuting 100 reasons why pr0nz is "bad" [url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KRzf3ghIZJI]It's 41 minutes long but it's worth learning that your thoughts on pr0nz are stupid, OP[/url][/quote]P0rn can break up relationships, I know that for a fact. I know of a married couple that have split up because of it. I don't care what that video says, its true. So you can think that it is correct, but do you think you could give it up if your girlfriend/wife wanted you to? [i]- JFKES[/i]

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  • Here's a video of a guy refuting 100 reasons why pr0nz is "bad" [url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KRzf3ghIZJI]It's 41 minutes long but it's worth learning that your thoughts on pr0nz are stupid, OP[/url]

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  • To the healthy man, there is a huge difference between the things that attract us in the way pr0nography does and the way that our girlfriends/spouses do. They're completely different things. Yes, the way the pr0nography stimulates the viewer is mostly in an objectifying way. And yes, that may be bad. But at this point it turns into a morality and religious debate, and I'm going to leave it at that. To each his own. I am an 18 year old male and watch pr0nography maybe once or twice a week for the purpose of -blam!-ion. It has not affected me in the least, and I honestly think that I am a normal (actually probably more passionate than normal) lover. I believe that pr0nography, like alcohol and marijuana (in some opinions), is safe in moderation. A little goes a long way. Like drinking with a bunch of friends on a weekend once in awhile, it can be a lot of fun. I think that if one were to become addicted to pr0nogrphy, it is a reflection of their own lack of intelligence.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] squirrel dude I went ahead and read through your post. The angle on how it can damage relationships was newer than most of what else you post. It was well thought out, and it's nice to see people trying to post this stuff. GJ OP.[/quote]Thank you :) [i]- JFKES[/i]

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  • But on the plus side, it stops many of the more perverted and desperate amongst us from doing anything crazy. Besides, whilst I do not watch it myself its a good stimulation for -blam!-ion, which is a very healthy act to do. It may be frowned upon, but it also does a lot of good too.

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