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12/24/2010 11:46:03 PM
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I just can't justify eating meat anymore
[quote]Heifer whines could be human cries
Closer comes the screaming knife
This beautiful creature must die
This beautiful creature must die
A death for no reason
And death for no reason is MURDER
And the flesh you so fancifully fry
Is not succulent, tasty or kind
It's death for no reason
And death for no reason is MURDER
And the calf that you carve with a smile
It is MURDER
And the turkey you festively slice
It is MURDER
Do you know how animals die?
Kitchen aromas aren't very homely
It's not "comforting", cheery or kind
It's sizzling blood and the unholy stench
Of MURDER
It's not "natural", "normal" or kind
The flesh you so fancifully fry
The meat in your mouth
As you savour the flavour
Of MURDER
NO, NO, NO, IT'S MURDER
NO, NO, NO, IT'S MURDER
Oh... and who cares about an animals life? ~Anon[/quote]
As Morrissey once said: "nobody can come up with a good argument for eating animals - nobody can. People as some kind of a joke say, well, 'It's tasty', but it's only tasty once you garnish it and you put salt and pepper, and you cook it, and you have to do 300 things to it to disguise its true taste. If you put garnishes on a chair or fabric, it would probably taste quite nice."
Animals who die for your dinner table die alone, in terror, in sadness and in pain. The killing is merciless and inhumane.
There is absolutely no reason why we should eat meat from an evolutionary or 'natural' perspective either. Our bodies are not designed to.
Just, how do I stop, I suppose you could say I'm addicted.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Bornswavia [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Dr TimothyLeary [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] lord of dahorde Come on people! Lets make this a new top topic![/quote]Why? It should have been locked pages ago. Everyone is just making the same statements over and over. There's no discussion left.[/quote] And you're doing an absolutely terrible job contributing to the thread yourself. [/quote]I've made my stance on the subject. I simply don't care. I could sit here and pretend that I do for the sake of coming across as "humane" or whatnot. But I'd be lying. I have a very clear separation between animals I consider to be domesticated pets, and those I use for food. Whether it sits in a cage until it ends up on my plate, or is treated with adoration and foot massages makes no difference to me. The result is the same.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Bornswavia [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] theHurtfulTurkey [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Bornswavia [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] theHurtfulTurkey 1. Become aware of the problem 2. ??? 3. Profit! And/or completely revolutionized animal processing industry with no abuse whatsoever.[/quote] Don't be like that. Obviously the answer is to quit support such industries. [/quote] How am I supposed to know which industries are lax on their humane treatment of animals if law enforcement doesn't? Of course my support ends for them if it is exposed, but their production also stops; it's not as if farms that abuse animals are allowed to continue operating until they've fixed the problems with the employees. If I could have a fun little list of companies that have been proven to abuse animals, yet continue to operate, I'd love to see it and I'd immediately begin avoiding their products. I've done the same for just about every shoe company, Nike in particular, and I truly don't support the cruelty, but I do support understanding that animal abuse is a minority in the industry for many good reasons.[/quote] The sad thing is laws don't stop most of the abuse. There haven't been hardly any major food industry law changes on animal treatment since the '50s. The reason is because people are obviously not engaged enough to care, or unaware. I think it's incredible that you do care and even care enough to act on it. Animal abuse is not something that rarely happens, most industries are very, very cruel and abusive the the animals. If not all. Even kosher industries are intensely abusive.[/quote] My roommates bud told me about "Halal" It's the Muslim way of slaughtering animals. I couldn't think of a more humane way to do it. Apparently the meat is much more expensive though as it takes longer to do it humanly.
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Okay I'm gonna put this out there just because people don't eat meat doesn't mean they are better visa versa. I have read most of this and there is an underlying battle to prove whether meat eaters or veggies are better. Doesn't effect me though as I only eat beer.
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Holy -blam!- this thread was at 10 two days ago.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] theHurtfulTurkey [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Bornswavia [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] theHurtfulTurkey 1. Become aware of the problem 2. ??? 3. Profit! And/or completely revolutionized animal processing industry with no abuse whatsoever.[/quote] Don't be like that. Obviously the answer is to quit support such industries. [/quote] How am I supposed to know which industries are lax on their humane treatment of animals if law enforcement doesn't? Of course my support ends for them if it is exposed, but their production also stops; it's not as if farms that abuse animals are allowed to continue operating until they've fixed the problems with the employees. If I could have a fun little list of companies that have been proven to abuse animals, yet continue to operate, I'd love to see it and I'd immediately begin avoiding their products. I've done the same for just about every shoe company, Nike in particular, and I truly don't support the cruelty, but I do support understanding that animal abuse is a minority in the industry for many good reasons.[/quote] The sad thing is laws don't stop most of the abuse. There haven't been hardly any major food industry law changes on animal treatment since the '50s. The reason is because people are obviously not engaged enough to care, or unaware. I think it's incredible that you do care and even care enough to act on it. Animal abuse is not something that rarely happens, most industries are very, very cruel and abusive the the animals. If not all. Even kosher industries are intensely abusive.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] G O R E25 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Mepps Minnow 2 Animals eat other animals. Does the lion ask if the buffalo wants to die in a humane way?[/quote] To continue the seemingly endless circle of already covered discussion, the lion does not have higher moral capabilities and also needs to eat the buffalo to survive. I might eat meat if I had to to survive, but I don't.[/quote] No -blam!- Sherlock. Humans have rationality and animals have instinct. Meat is part of a healthy balanced diet.
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Just saying, I'd never be a vegetarian. Endless buffalo wings at Gator's Dockside for $10.95 is just too good to pass up.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Bornswavia [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] theHurtfulTurkey 1. Become aware of the problem 2. ??? 3. Profit! And/or completely revolutionized animal processing industry with no abuse whatsoever.[/quote] Don't be like that. Obviously the answer is to quit support such industries. [/quote] How am I supposed to know which industries are lax on their humane treatment of animals if law enforcement doesn't? Of course my support ends for them if it is exposed, but their production also stops; it's not as if farms that abuse animals are allowed to continue operating until they've fixed the problems with the employees. If I could have a fun little list of companies that have been proven to abuse animals, yet continue to operate, I'd love to see it and I'd immediately begin avoiding their products. I've done the same for just about every shoe company, Nike in particular, and I truly don't support the cruelty, but I do support understanding that animal abuse is a minority in the industry for many good reasons.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] G O R E25 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Mepps Minnow 2 Animals eat other animals. Does the lion ask if the buffalo wants to die in a humane way?[/quote] To continue the seemingly endless circle of already covered discussion, the lion does not have higher moral capabilities and also needs to eat the buffalo to survive. I might eat meat if I had to to survive, but I don't.[/quote] Then you better start growing your own food because the industrial machines that get used to cut the grains you eat make the perfect home for rabbits and snakes into one helluva bloody nightmare.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Mepps Minnow 2 Animals eat other animals. Does the lion ask if the buffalo wants to die in a humane way?[/quote]No, it just realises the error of its ways and starts eating watermelons instead.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Mepps Minnow 2 Animals eat other animals. Does the lion ask if the buffalo wants to die in a humane way?[/quote] To continue the seemingly endless circle of already covered discussion, the lion does not have higher moral capabilities and also needs to eat the buffalo to survive. I might eat meat if I had to to survive, but I don't.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] theHurtfulTurkey 1. Become aware of the problem 2. ??? 3. Profit! And/or completely revolutionized animal processing industry with no abuse whatsoever.[/quote] Don't be like that. Obviously the answer is to quit support such industries.
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I love Steak.
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Animals eat other animals. Does the lion ask if the buffalo wants to die in a humane way?
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] XII CIUTCH IIX [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] lord of dahorde Animals eat meat. Humans are intelligent animals. What is wrong with it?[/quote] [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Bornswavia Eating meat is unjustifiable, to me. However, I do understand how others can see it as justified. I just ask people become aware of the abuse that occurs in the animal industry. There is absolutely no way you can justify abuse. And I believe anyone with a heart would agree.[/quote][/quote] I'm not sure what you expect people to do. Of course I'm aware of abuse in the animal-processing industry, but there are already laws regulating it and it's not like an outcry of protest against the abuse will stop them. It's like trying to stop murder by telling murderers it's inhumane. Well, no -blam!- sherlock. Your plan (and everyone else's favoring your view): 1. Become aware of the problem 2. ??? 3. Profit! And/or completely revolutionized animal processing industry with no abuse whatsoever.
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i personally'll eat whatever i feel like when i want how i want and besides there's always gonna be abuse we just gotta deal with it best we can
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] lord of dahorde Animals eat meat. Humans are intelligent animals. What is wrong with it?[/quote] [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Bornswavia Eating meat is unjustifiable, to me. However, I do understand how others can see it as justified. I just ask people become aware of the abuse that occurs in the animal industry. There is absolutely no way you can justify abuse. And I believe anyone with a heart would agree.[/quote]
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Mooard Chicken. With bacon inside. Wrapped in bacon. Fatless, crispy bacon.[/quote] [url=http://blogs.southflorida.com/citylink_dansweeney/homer-drool.gif]Mmmm[/url]
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Bornswavia [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Dr TimothyLeary [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] lord of dahorde Come on people! Lets make this a new top topic![/quote]Why? It should have been locked pages ago. Everyone is just making the same statements over and over. There's no discussion left.[/quote] And you're doing an absolutely terrible job contributing to the thread yourself. Eating meat is unjustifiable, to me. However, I do understand how others can see it as justified. I just ask people become aware of the abuse that occurs in the animal industry. There is absolutely no way you can justify abuse. And I believe anyone with a heart would agree.[/quote] Very well said. Very well said.
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Animals eat meat. Humans are intelligent animals. What is wrong with it?
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Chicken. With bacon inside. Wrapped in bacon. Fatless, crispy bacon.
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lmao damn this still going i was on like page 58 yesterday.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Dr TimothyLeary [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] lord of dahorde Come on people! Lets make this a new top topic![/quote]Why? It should have been locked pages ago. Everyone is just making the same statements over and over. There's no discussion left.[/quote] And you're doing an absolutely terrible job contributing to the thread yourself. Eating meat is unjustifiable, to me. However, I do understand how others can see it as justified. I just ask people become aware of the abuse that occurs in the animal industry. There is absolutely no way you can justify abuse. And I believe anyone with a heart would agree.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] ShmorEman56 Congrats Clutch you are now the master troll of the flood. I don't personnally believe that we shouldnt but I am against animaly cruelty whilst they are alive. But if you pressure people into doing something they will resent you. You=Master Level 10 troll[/quote] Well, that's justifiable. I'll just ignore the troll thing.
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Congrats Clutch you are now the master troll of the flood. I don't personnally believe that we shouldnt but I am against animaly cruelty whilst they are alive. But if you pressure people into doing something they will resent you. You=Master Level 10 troll
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Dr TimothyLeary [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] lord of dahorde Come on people! Lets make this a new top topic![/quote]Why? It should have been locked pages ago. Everyone is just making the same statements over and over. There's no discussion left.[/quote] That is true, nothing new has come up in ages (except the fish article), and the thread is too long for people to re-read to find the answers to their questions.
