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2/21/2024 8:38:49 PM
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Everything being freelance would kill this multiplayer game.
This game is not a solo game and is an MMO
People can play with friends if they want, that is the purpose of multiplayer games.
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Edited by Nimune: 2/21/2024 8:40:47 PMI disagree on the freelance killing everything part, but I can see your point of view.
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I think either making sides balanced wirh stacks or not allowing solos to match stacks would be better. In the case of something like a 5 stack loading then solos would be pulled in but outside of cases like that solos would not match against stacks unless each team has an equal stack. The current system prefers similar size but doesnt force it allowing there to be a chance of unequal stacks like a duo matching a trio in trials, that should simply not happen at all.
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As long as solos don't match teams.
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I think solos should still match if its required, like 2 stacks in trials need a third or 5 stacks in 6v6 need a 6th. I think it shouldnt be 3 solos vs a 3 stack in trials or a bunch of solos vs a 5 stack even if the solos have a duo or trio. Each team should have an equal stack count like a trio, duo and a solo vs a trio, duo and a solo or a 5 stack and a solo vs a 5 stack and a solo. Keep the teams balanced in stack count and fill blanks with stacks if possible or solos but make each team the same (like a 3 stack queing a 6v6 could be paired with only trios and have two 3 stacks on each team or they could match a solo and duo on their team and the enemy team is the same)
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No, that's bad. Either go in solo and get matched with other solos, or go in with a full team and get matched with other full teams.
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That would be bad given there are players who 2 stack, 3 stack and so on. Making it either a full stack or no stack would not go well given there are lots of players that only play with friends and either dont have enough people to fill a 6 stack or dont have people on often enough to fill a 6 stack. If youre suggesting a stack only plays an equal stack then 6v6 would he terrible for duos and trios as it would be a 2v2 or 3v3 in a long slow mode. The best option is to make games have equal stacks on both teams, this allows for everyone to play and doesnt punish solo players as its rare that people 5 stack meaning most stacks will be filled with stacks only. 2+4, 3+3, 6, 2+2+2, per team, this would make solos matching into stacks impossible and 5s can just be 5v5 which would mean solos only match solos but people want full games so games arent called from time. Freelance was loved but caused issues due to population splits, it made duo trials impossible and typically lead to 3v2 games if you were a duo. The best option is to just match the stacks on each team and only use solos when necessary such as a 5v5 would need 2 solos to fill.
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Edited by Nimune: 2/21/2024 9:24:41 PMThat is roughly what we have currently and the experience sucks big time. Match making times would take ages if those were always balanced 2+1 vs. 2+1 for example. And then we end up with the current situation where team of 3 matches solos from time to time. Best would be solos vs. solos and full team vs. full team.
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What we have now still gives the chance for a team of solos to match a full team stack which is what im saying shouldnt happen. Making anything other than solo, 6/3 stack (depending on a 6v6 or 3v3 mode) pointless would destroy player interest as people want to play with friends and if you happen to be a 4 stack or duo of friends then you cant play anymore which will cause the playerbase to drop and then no-one gets to play. The trade off for balance is queue time, if you want a better balance then waiting time goes up, if you want quick matchmaking then accept less balance.
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Freelance only would allow everyone to play instantly and would offer best possible connection and lobby balancing.
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But would stop people playing with friends, destiny is an MMO and is more about multiplayer than solo play. People play games like this with friends and locking PvP to solo only would shut that down causing more people to abandon the game which would eventually cause PvP to be unplayable as its numbers would be far too low for bungie to continue it or it would be changed back.
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As said, plenty of places and modes to play with friends. Quickplay would just work better without teams.
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No it wouldnt.
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I disagree. Maybe let's leave it here.
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To each their own i guess, i think both could work to an extent but a middle ground between our ideas would work the most. Maybe stacks match equal stacks only and games change times and score based on team sizes or maybe extra modes for different team sizes allowing everyone to play still
