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7/10/2021 2:23:49 PM
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How super are Guardians supposed to be?

In the Canon just how superhuman physically are Guardians supposed to be relative to normal humans? If their supers,class ability, grenade powers, and ghost enabled resurrection where all they had. Then in my mind they wouldn't be capable of their impossible victories. Guardians having done what they have, to me only works if they are at least Captain America levels of superhuman from their initial resurrection and they just grow stronger over time

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  • Super wimpy, yet kills god-level beings due to immortality

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  • Super duper

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  • Edited by MrSlippery: 7/19/2021 2:06:45 AM
    Watch the OG trailers for D2 Zavala had his ass handed to him by dregs for a century 😂 jk but still I’m pretty sure we aren’t super at all without the light after the red war arc!

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    • [quote]In the Canon just how superhuman physically are Guardians supposed to be relative to normal humans? If their supers,class ability, grenade powers, and ghost enabled resurrection where all they had. Then in my mind they wouldn't be capable of their impossible victories. Guardians having done what they have, to me only works if they are at least Captain America levels of superhuman from their initial resurrection and they just grow stronger over time[/quote] We fell off a ship without our light and somehow survived, so…

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      • Without our abilities we are not that powerful. Master chief could beat us in a fist fight. I mean zavala was dumb enough to charge a legionary without light and he almost got owned. This is why thr vangaurd should train the guardians to be proficient in hand to hand combat and actual firearms training similar, the goal should be to make them as good as navy seal operators without the need for light. With the light we are very powerful. We defeated oryx, I'm actually surprised we did considering how powerful he is in the lore. But the game had to dumb him down. In terms of how super we are. We'd still lose to people like Superman (no using kryptonite) or Captian Marvel. But would be able to beat Captain America, Iron Man, Hawkeye, Batman and Black Panther.

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        • Edited by GoldenKnight_0: 7/17/2021 12:58:10 AM
          We have killed gods. Destroyed machines that can destroy the universe itself. But if we fall 1 millimeter high of a pebble, we die instantly. [spoiler]uwu[/spoiler]

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          • Edited by RingersCheckmate: 7/11/2021 5:04:43 AM
            What makes guardians paracasual and a good chunk of their power is the light. You're basically asking how a guardian would be without the light, but you still left their movement options in the pot so I'd feel like a guardian could still accomplish a great deal. Every guardian is different, somehow 1000 of them can die on crota, and one guy with sleeper can drop him and his oversoul. Depends on the guardian. I'd say they're stronger than captain America with the limits you've given.

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            • I think guardians are just meatbags in armor. Master Chief from Halo, is essentially Captain America in an Ironman suit.

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              • Not at all if you listen to the forums To tanky Not Tanky enough Snipers shouldnt one shot tanky Vorpal Shotty should one shot tanky We should be equal to a a pro athlete with an annoying floatin AI attached for random rezzes

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                • We are able to punch enemies and kill them with ease when we are struck by claws and swords we survive. While having our light drained Gaul kicks us from an insane height and we survive. I believe we are godlike being with immense durability and raw strength as well

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                • We are relatively super... But considering that Zavala died continuously, Cayde half struggled with a Group of of low tier Scorn, and in general Vanguard nearly broken during the Red War. Saint 14 was about to die until we got to him remember. A Gaurdian known as a monster to Fallen. Fireteam of 9 Gaurdians all died to the Hive. We are strong.. like hell, killed Hive Gods. But we definitely aren't overly super strong. We shock the Vanguard with how we have done some things, which means we are a rare select few.

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                  • I think guardians are physically on par with normal people and their physicality just depends on how active they are. Like tower warlocks are probably pretty weak vs a warlock who is in active combat on a regular basis.

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                    • Very very powerful but pvp kinda gets everything nerfed.

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                        One for the money, two for the show. - old

                        Less and less super as time goes on due to PvP nerfbabies.

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                        • While Guardian capabilities and skills varies from person to person, the average skill level of a Guardian seems to be rather low due to the fact that dying doesn't really effect them much The average Guardian can easily be overwhelmed and tends to be more suitable for 1v10 situations But that's only pulling from cards like red war stories and that one warlock who gave crow a bottle of wine

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                        • Edited by Acyticz: 7/11/2021 5:08:36 AM
                          definitely super enough to obliterate my wife’s boyfriend for not buying me the ps5 i asked nicely for

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                        • Power rangers super or beetleborg tough.

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                        • Our armor and weapons also enhance our abilities beyond normal human levels and we can shift those enhancements at will (depending on our inventory). And Ghosts intentionally seek out remains that are candidates for resurrection so I’m assuming there’s a genetic or some other athletic quotient we have to meet in the first place. Think of us as Captain America, Iron Man and Dr. Strange combined. That’s a pretty powerful being. And as far as our feats of heroism and god-slaying, we’re only half the solution. Usually in a raid there is some new element or advantage added that previous fireteams never had, like the Aegis, or Crota’s sword, or some other item or knowledge that makes it possible to do what we do.

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                        • Guardians should be as powerful as my Warframe…. My Warframe could kick a Guardian’s ass. Lol

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                          • Not any stronger than normal. We're paracasual. We don't care how heavy something is; if we believe we can lift it, we will lift it. Our physical strength has nothing to do with it "In a cosmos where existence can be sustained by will alone, exhaustion is the surest of killers"

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                            • I'm super thanks for asking

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                            • Very super. Captain America would get steamrolled by any decent Guardian. Physically speaking, Effrideet (a hunter, not really known for strength) was able to throw Saladin (in his several ton Titan armor) with absolute precision off a massive cliff. Wei Ning, the physically strongest guardian ever, could shake a mountain (microscopically) without even trying. Ability wise guardians are even more powerful. At Six Fronts and Twilight Gap the Fallen outnumbered guardians practically 1000 to 1, and guardians still won.

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                              • Probably on par with or above Spartans from Halo

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                                • The white rarity "Refugee Gloves" Titan armor has a bit of lore that says [quote]These hands could once turn diamonds into dust.[/quote] So I assume they would more along the lines have Superman levels of strength.

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                                    Guardian,Archon Of Light

                                    Blade Of The Traveler - old

                                    Saint killed the House of Devil's Kell with his head , so I would say we are pretty strong

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                                    • Think “angel” level of supernatural.

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