It's because Bungie skimped out on using dedicated servers only, and opted for something they call 'hybrid peer-to-peer', which is a combination of Bungie servers and peer-to-peer connections, which is only _slightly_ better than Destiny 1's peer-to-peer, but suffers from the same issues where your IP address is exposed to everyone else in the match, which makes it very easy for your opponents to engage in network manipulation like lag switching (hardware or software), drophacking, and even DDoSing (Distributed Denial of Service attack). More info here: https://www.pcgamer.com/the-strange-science-of-destiny-2s-uniquely-complicated-netcode/ https://www.gamerevolution.com/news/355113-bungies-response-destiny-2s-ddos-attacks-angered-community https://beta.support.xbox.com/help/Hardware-Network/connect-network/dos-attacks-faq As far as I know, the only version of Destiny 2 that doesn't suffer from this issue, is the Google Stadia version, since it all runs on Google's cloud servers. I thought about getting it, but maybe after they work out their input lag issues. For now, I play through a VPN connection so that even if I get hit with a DDoS attack, I can always just switch to another VPN server without worrying about my home internet getting shutdown, but unfortunately, that cannot prevent opponents from lag switching or drophacking, which is why I stopped playing Competitive, and refuse to play Comp until and unless Bungie switch to dedicated servers only, like what Ubisoft did with For Honor and Division 2. https://techraptor.net/gaming/news/for-honor-plagued-with-drophacking-and-ddos-issues https://forhonor.ubisoft.com/game/en-us/news-community/152-319976/for-honor-now-on-dedicated-servers-on-all-platforms https://www.shacknews.com/article/109813/the-division-2-shows-your-public-ip-to-others-by-default Beyond just simply being an 'inconvenience' in terms of fair competition in gaming, Destiny 2 exposing players' IP addresses to anyone and everyone we come into contact with in the game is a privacy and security risk that is unconscionable. Bungie have a duty of care to their customers to protect us from DDoS attacks by switching to dedicated servers only, because DDoS attacks are not only serious federal cybercrimes but can be used as cover to mask other kinds of attacks on one's network security, which is particularly dangerous for vulnerable customers such as women, children, and indeed, disabled players who rely on always-on internet for medical and assistive technologies that are internet-connected (IoT medical devices). It is also a threat to people who run home businesses, such as streamers/YouTubers, which is why a lot of prominent Destiny 2 YouTubers are now advertising VPN subscription services. https://www.windowscentral.com/use-vpn-xbox-one https://www.techadvisor.co.uk/how-to/game/use-vpn-ps4-3670694/ https://www.techradar.com/vpn/best-gaming-vpn Hope that helps.

The game needs severs for them to be able to do that. The game doesn’t have severs. It runs on a pier to pier connection. This is the way it has always been.

Peer to peer. They said it would be this way before the initial launch.

It's not the "servers" because the amazon servers you bounce off of don't really do much of anything.. the server is mostly made up between you, larry in Australia, fred in Germany, leo in africa, jack in hong Kong, and spencer in canada all trying to share information about the "server" your 6 connections all across multiple oceans are trying to create. When you start to lose packets that crashes the "server" your connections were making which results in you or someone getting booted. Buy a geo filter router.. it'll protect you from this for the most part.. but if you run into fred in Germany and he's using a VPN to play across the ocean on your countries servers it'll either kick you or it'll kick him because your router won't want to send him information when it realizes he's way outside of the 3500 mile search range you've given it.

Playing on Xbox I suppose We got repurposed halo servers while playstation and pc got new ones. And even there it's not that great As much as I hate fortnite, but the dudes have top notch servers 🧂

They'll never get dedicated servers - i'd be happy if they admit that the hybrid P2P isn't on the same level. I can't stand them selling it as if it's a ground-breaking concept and it's viable. It's cheaper. They just need to be honest about that.

You should've seen the guy last week telling me that D2's hybrid servers are just as good as dedicated servers and that giving it true dedicated servers wouldn't improve anything.

Dedicated servers would make things better than the current p2p hybrid. But there would still be problems without region lock even with dedicated. Ping is the real problem and not enough population for sbmm But it’s pointless to even hope for dedicated servers, not going to happen