You know what else is noob-ish?
Mentioning Marathon and consoles together, that is, unless you're referring to the Pippin.
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I don't even have to see your profile to know you have a $ony console lol.
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...and an Xbox, 360, xb1 and pc. I've been gaming since the late 70's, loooong before the current generations of consoles. Your point? [spoiler]Judging by your post (and responses), I'm going to go out on a limb and say, It's probably a safe bet that you've never played any of the Marathon trilogy games (or the original Doom for that matter).[/spoiler]