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10/8/2017 12:38:48 PM
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Literally 1 shot over 10 times tonight playing trials... and by the strangest things. Some guy knee slides around a corner and 1 hit melee? Standard. I die before I get a 2nd trigger pull in 1v1s? Standard. Gernade death from full health? Standard. Peek a corner for 1/10th of a second without firing and go back, dead. Standard. 10 feet behind a wall? Hold up, Mida didn't get the memo. ***WARNING!!!*** The Destiny 2 skill based matchmaking lag has arrived at Destiny 1 skill based matchmaking levels! Abort!!! In all honesty it's gotten to the point where it's so laggy I don't even care anymore. I'm just going to play other games. Without dedicated servers, region or ping limit filters Destiny 2 isn't worth my time.
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  • Edited by F13RY PH03N1X: 10/10/2017 12:21:21 AM
    I've seen a guy post, and he said that top players are downloading 10 movies, have YouTube running on all their devices, Spotify running high data files, anything and everything to use your internet and it causes some shit to happen with the PING where you will see the enemy players before they see you, hence the dead as soon as you see them as they have been shooting you on their screen before you've seen them...!

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  • Man that pisses me off but I have to laugh about it otherwise I'd end up in a nut house lol you shoot people with the same gun and they turn around moments later and out shoot you with less shots. I also hate when you get out shot using mida from scout range by the last hope side arm FFS.

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  • Yep. My missus keeps telling me she gonna f[b]u[/b]ck me out of the house if I keep swearing and losing it. Every game I get killed through walls, 1 shot with stuff that's crap, players taking no damage it my guns are shooting peanuts and their health takes forever to go down. Or worst of all is the Vigilance Wing. Complete 5 bullet bursts going straight through people and no damage.

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  • Yeah. There are different network manipulations you can pull off in p2p that actually hurt you on dedicated servers.

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  • He got banned for posting it inD1 but ousted it again inD2 just to put people wide. He was showing clips of well known players shooting people and they weren't even shooting back, hence they couldn't see them

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  • [quote]He got banned for posting it inD1 but ousted it again inD2 just to put people wide. He was showing clips of well known players shooting people and they weren't even shooting back, hence they couldn't see them[/quote] I've played some well known top 100 players over the years. Most? are legit if I guessed. I've won some lost some but there have been 3 people that have posted carries on the forum I've witnessed first hand beat me through manipulation. I called one guy out on it after he beat my STACKED trials team with ease. I was the worst player on the team at the time. Posted video of it from 2 of our perspectives and the guy just disappeared.

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  • Exactly THIS!

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  • I am hearing you loud and clear. Do I remember hearing they (Bungie) invested heavily. I don't think so.

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  • Invested heavily into marketing that "p2p hybrid" is better than dedicated servers. Tricking the gullible who haven't played 10+ years of console and PC online.

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  • Exactly what I've been experiencing. Peek and come back with your armor gone and red sliver if youre lucky. Mida will 2 shot you behind the door after youve taken cover. Go head to head and I barely take his armor out while I'm dead within a few shots. -blam!- this sh. It

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  • I just got deja vu reading your comment lol I still think it should be renamed to Crucibullshit.

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  • I'm noticing the exact same thing and my feeling was exactly that. The last patch seemed to move the slider on the whole CB/SB Matchmaking system. I have friends that rarely enter into Pvp at all. A few weeks ago they could join me (I play often but don't have crazy stats) and have fun. Now they play on their own and say it's ok, then play with me and get pissed that they get obliterated. Same thing that happened back in D1. This is even in Quickplay.

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  • I'm sort of like that too, I never have a good game when I play with my close friends cause I'm getting killed before they enter my screen so I have to play solo in the hopes I get good connections. I noticed my first 2-3 games there's a tiny bit of lag and as I progress players start taking no damage or stay alive when they get killed until they make it a trade then die.

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  • Edited by HurMedic: 10/8/2017 11:52:11 PM
    [quote]I'm noticing the exact same thing and my feeling was exactly that. The last patch seemed to move the slider on the whole CB/SB Matchmaking system. I have friends that rarely enter into Pvp at all. A few weeks ago they could join me (I play often but don't have crazy stats) and have fun. Now they play on their own and say it's ok, then play with me and get pissed that they get obliterated. Same thing that happened back in D1. This is even in Quickplay.[/quote] I felt the increase in SBMM in my bones and -blam!- after the patch. My lag tripled and my k/d cut in half. Didn't have too much lag tbh until the patch. I guess tripled should be a hundred fold? Basically no noticeable effect to lagballs with the fip of a switch.

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  • Haha- just weeks ago I was here praising this game for having a fraction of the lag that D1 had. I was defending every aspect of their choices made because at least the game was clean. Reading through these posts I see all the same things.... what happened? :-(

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  • Oh, one other thing... Check my destiny tracker if you care. My last 25 games win/loss and k/d is pathetic compared to the games before them for me personally. Bungie trying to get that 50/50 win/loss and 1 k/d for EVERYONE. Sickening really... http://destinytracker.com/d2/profile/psn/LLUCKYWOLF

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  • Dude I'm right there with you. Day one was a blast and so it continued for 3-4 weeks. Latency issues were few and far between if even existent. I noticed it like this... I got to know when to retreat from an engagement I wasn't winning. I could get down to 20% or so and know that's the time to bail. Now I'm finding myself adopting my D1 "lag strategies". My retreat point is 40-50% health knowing I'm going to still get hit by another 3-5 rounds in cover. It's pathetic really. All this just proves to me that D1 was salvageable but they refused to do it. I didn't complain about 4v4, no choice in mode,... as I was thrilled over this crisp connection. It's gone, and now my friends noticing that my matchmaking is notably harder than theirs? Wtf? We had roughly a month man :-(

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  • Same here!! Dude I didn't even think about the patch coming through.... makes total sense now. Why the literal -blam!- they decided to make a change is beyond me...?!?! Im so pissed right now. Things were working great for the first couple weeks. No lag initially, matches were decent. Bungie can't get out of their own way..... I want to dick smack the decision makers in the face. It's so frustrating they can't stop meddling.

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  • [quote]Same here!! Dude I didn't even think about the patch coming through.... makes total sense now. Why the literal -blam!- they decided to make a change is beyond me...?!?! Im so pissed right now. Things were working great for the first couple weeks. No lag initially, matches were decent. Bungie can't get out of their own way..... I want to dick smack the decision makers in the face. It's so frustrating they can't stop meddling.[/quote] I'm going to fire up the Netduma tonight and try to see where my matches are coming from. You can't actually use any of the "usefulness" of the Duma in D2 which is fine by me, but I can set it to just pinpoint where I connect to. The first two weeks were really tight to my location. Curious to see what they look like now. Just to further send the point home... In the first three weeks I honestly saw one (yes, one) post created that even mentioned lag. Hotfix 1.0.3.2.2.1.0 or whatever hits and the forums are littered with "lag" posts. Coincidence?????

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  • Exactly. If I don't hit every shot perfectly I just run now. I don't try to strafe or push my luck anymore. It went from: Before patch: Taking damage, taking damage, taking damage, dead. After patch: Ta..DEAD A different game and experience completely. I guess it just helps the sanity to hear similar accounts. I play with a friend sometimes and they average a 1.5+ k/d solo and a 0.5 when playing with me. Social game they say? Nothing quite builds friendships like getting MLG lag rekt if you want to play a few with a friend... :/

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  • Yeah - it helps seeing the same thing with others here. Sad to think that but maybe it'll revert back. Nice quickplay stats you have there man! Hit me up if you're ever looking to play and have no one on. I only have 2 serious pvp buddies and they're of the same mindset. We deal with what we have and try to trudge on through the BS as rage free as possible...lol GT: Calculus-Entropy

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  • I rarely even play. I'll send a friend request and if you see me on send invite.

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  • I knew it was going to happen. The lag of D1 from playing against overseas opponents is what made me quit. It was only a matter of time. I would joke to my friends asking if the next match sbmm would turn on. I guess 1 month was longer than I expected.

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  • Dude my thoughts exactly. I'm so angry reading these posts. It makes perfect sense why things have gotten so bad recently.

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  • This.

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