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Edited by Angel_Soren: 11/30/2016 1:54:54 AM
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Dude that video featured more than one reasons on why you lost aside from that Titan using juggernaut. 1) You didn't bother to move away from your position even though you were the last guardian standing on your team. Your position was compromised and you were outnumbered. Your odds of living was already slim before your engagement. You could have easily strafed to the left and use the truck as cover as the Titan was charging at you, giving you cover while you fought the Titan 2) You chose to fight even though the odds were against you. This one is self-explanatory. 3) You completely neglected the position of the other enemy. You got so distracted with the Titan that you left yourself out in the open and lost track of your enemy's teammate. 4) You ignored the fact you were being shot at. Even though cover was a few steps away. You knew you were being shot at yet you didn't break your engagement with the Titan in order to keep yourself safe. You even had Twilight Garrison to help you in these situations but instead you let yourself get caught off guard and took the shots while fighting the Titan. Juggernaut is the least of your worries if you aren't capable of picking more advantageous fights.
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  • Edited by Ness: 11/30/2016 2:13:27 AM
    I don't think you realized that I was fully aware of his teammate. I understand I need to kill the Titan as quickly as possible, then run away. Had the snipe hit him, I could've used my Twilight Garrison to skate to the right to break line of sight of the last one, and it'd be an easy 1v1. Had I tried to use the truck as cover, I wouldn't be able to get shots off on the Titan fast enough to kill him unless I was at least 90 feet or so behind the truck. If I did that and killed him, I'd be extremely vulnerable to the last guy who had a clever dragon. Since I'm using Last Word sniper, I would've been hung out to dry in the back of the map. So yes, I was fully aware of everything that happened. I got cheated that hit juggernaut shield saved him just in time. I was not out played, and any other good player would have done something similar to what I did.

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  • Regardless of how aware you are of the situation, the fact still remains the same. You saw that your sniper did nothing to the Titan but made the conscious decision to fight the Titan anyways regardless of the clear disadvantage you had. Proactively you should have put your survival as a priority, however, instead you took the risk and lost. It's your own fault and not the juggernaut for the situation that brought upon you. You took a gamble and lost. Blaming juggernaut is almost irrelevant since you had ample time to re-evaluate your strategy.

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  • Ample time? The Titan was closing the gap almost immediately, I had very little time to react.

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  • Edited by Angel_Soren: 11/30/2016 3:16:42 AM
    Little time to react is like saying you're unable to process information the second you receive them, which is of your own fault for not being able to react. What's more shameful is that you're telling me that you were aware of nearly all the things I listed while you were in action, yet you still took a gamble at a situation you had a disadvantage in. That means that you were either conscious of everything you were doing and you're just butthurt your gamble didn't pay off, or are lying to make yourself look like you knew what you were doing. Regardless, this just shows you're incapable of accepting your own faults and lack of skill. It's shameful you're choosing to blame juggernaut cause you could have learned from this situation, and practiced to build habits to prevent it from happening thus making you more skillful. However, instead you're blaming such an insignificant portion of your lost and claiming it as the primary reason you lost.

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  • I hope you at least understand that juggernaut is what lost me the round. If he didn't have it, he would've gotten sniped. And sure, I totally have a lack of skill, don't I? I don't think you understand that my stats don't reflect my skill level at all.

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  • Edited by Angel_Soren: 11/30/2016 3:39:42 AM
    I think you're in denial. Yes he lived a sniper shot because of juggernaut, but here's why you lost. After he survived using juggernaut what did you do? You stood there ignored his teammate that you said you were aware of. You decided to keep fighting even though you were last guardian standing. You decided to stay at your position, an opening with no cover. You made so many more errors and risks apart from losing a sniper shot cause of juggernaut. If anything I think that Titan skillfully out played you with that juggernaut. It seems like you can't accept the fact you got outplayed and instead you're going to take the easy way and call it OP because someone got the better of you, which from what I can see was pure luck he managed to get juggernaut up when you sniped him. If anything you're complaining about the fact that you were unlucky enough to shoot someone as they got juggernaut up. This occurrence is absolutely not common enough to call juggernaut op. You should focus on fixing the other miscalculations you made before you start blaming game functions for your misfortune.

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  • It was unlucky. He hadn't even been revived by the time I used Twilight Garrison. I also didn't expect him to bounce off of the truck the way he did. Hiding behind it would have left me more vulnerable than you think. I had everything right, I just got very unlucky. There you have it. I'm done with this argument, because we clearly have vastly different opinions.

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