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Edited by BenjyX55:
11/7/2016 2:24:30 PM
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"Why should I pay to send other people's children to school?"
I've heard this question and similar questions asked a lot. I would just like to take a moment to address this, as it raises a valid point. Normally, tax dollars go to (or are supposed to go to) something that will benefit everyone, but if you have no children yet you're paying taxes that fund public schools, are you receiving any benefit?
The answer: yes.
Why?
Those children, those offspring of strangers who you don't give a damn about, they grow up. Plenty of them will end up incarcerated or in dead end jobs or what have you. However, some of them will succeed. They will change the world for the better, and in doing so will directly benefit you. Don't believe me? The fact that you're reading this in the first place should be sufficient to dispel that skepticism. Do you think this magic box in your hand or on your desk would exist without people educated by the public schools?
It goes beyond just technology. Nearly aspect of modern life that we all take for granted came about at least in part thanks to people who were educated in public schools. When you pay for those children you don't care about, you're paying for then to grow up and invent a device, cure a disease, or do something else that will have a positive impact on your life.
Where would our society be if we didn't have public schools? If society were there, where would you be?
Tl;dr: You should be alright with paying to educate other people's children because a well-educated population benefits everyone. You need to be able to look beyond the few cents less your paycheck is worth and see the big picture.
EDIT: everyone is now against public schools apparently.
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5 RepliesIt's always been a simple equation for me. good public schools = higher home values Schools are one of the top things people look for when buying a house. If your home is near good schools, it is worth more. My parents' house is in one of the best public school districts in the state, and their modest 4-bedroom home with a tiny backyard is valued at over a million dollars. So...it's pretty clear to me.
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1 ReplyI always support public education because I do not want to live in a world full of stupid people.
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23 RepliesEdited by DarthBrando: 11/13/2016 12:05:09 AMcuz if no one does; those kids can't get jobs and end up getting into crime and guns and shoot up your street an steal shite n kill ppl. ^---> not a joke; look at Mexico or India or China, that junk happens edit; nvm mexico, they have free education
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7 RepliesIf you haven't noticed, our system doesn't educate people.
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1 ReplyIn theory, the older generation pays for the schooling of children, and in turn the children later repay this by paying for the pension benfits and social costs of the older generation once the older retire.
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2 RepliesThe big problem isn't that people just don't want to pay for other kids education. The big problem is that many people won't have enough money to send their own kids to college if their already paying for other kids to go to college.
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The public school system is garbage. Common core is garbage.
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[quote]EDIT: everyone is now against public schools apparently.[/quote] Wonder why? For the record, most people believe it is broken, not necessarily should not be a thing.
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8 RepliesOur education system is last in the world. Why give a crap now? If you want good education you got to pay for it or be really wealthy. How it was hundreds of years ago. How it will be no matter what country you live in. The wealthy are typically the most educated.
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Edited by ABZÛ: 11/10/2016 1:16:19 AMDon't tell me this is question people on this forum ask.
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8 RepliesI mean that's a difficult claim to make and argue. As someone who typically holds very libertarian principles I find it to be the most difficult topic to address theoretically. I honestly have no idea what an ideal education system would look like. But that aside. I mean it's hard to say because clearly public education is not effective across the country. We teach to tests now instead of knowledge and tools. Yet we still waste more and more money every year on it despite it not getting any better. Realistically, who tries to argue this? Really of all the wasted tax dollars someone is going to try and argue against wasted spending on education as a starting point?
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4 RepliesFreely accessible education is something I strongly support. The public school system is not. Is that so hard to understand?
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Just curious about your opinion on this. I bust my ass to send my kids to private school. Yet still, I pay property taxes to the school system. I'm taking care of my own and I certainly don't mind helping others but our public school system is broken. It's nothing more than indoctrinating kids to grow up and become good little ignorent lemmings.
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3 RepliesA scenario: A scheme is put in place whereby you can stop paying your taxes and in return you cannot use any service for which those taxes would be paying. Roads, schools, emergency services, government services etc. You take this offer as you do not like the idea of paying for other people's advancement. There are private sector options that you can pay for and you carry on your life pretty much as normal. At some point down the line though you contract a nasty disease, a disease that through one reason or another, only 1 doctor has the specific knowledge and experience needed to successfully treat the disease. Here's the thing: the doctor is only paid via government taxes, and refuses to treat you (ignoring the Hippocratic oath for a minute here) on the grounds that since you did not pay into the system that gave them their knowledge and experience, you bet on the wrong horse and as a result, you simply don't deserve the treatment that someone who had paid their taxes does. How do you feel?
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Public schools are one thing, paying for everyone's tuition would be an all new ballpark. I was already paying roughly 27% of my paycheck back in taxes, with something this expensive potentially being thrown on the stack I don't want to imagine the numbers the government will be wanting next. Then the whole deal with everyone becoming debt free, that won't be cheap either.
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Why should we pay social security when we won't see it when it's our turn?
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8 RepliesEdited by Unforgiven: 11/7/2016 6:40:33 AMTeachers should be graded the same way that students are graded. Based on their performance and their teaching methods and their success and their failures. Just because someone is a teacher doesn't mean they are immune to yearly testing. Everyone should be held accountable for the state of the American educational system which is far behind many countries.
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i would agree 100% with this IF the public education offered more efficient teaching, with the hope that people can come out of grade 12 (13?) having the equivalent of an associates or bachelors degree nowadays. college can exist as a post-secondary form of education, but that system also needs restructuring
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1 ReplyPublic grade, middle, and high schools I'm ok with. There has however been MAJOR flaws with the public district schooling system. Part of my taxes go to the MARSHALL County school district. Not Ohio county. But yet somehow Jamie Doeson for BFE out of state gets to go to our counties public schools, and they denied my sister a transfer to Ohio county schools because she lives in Marshall? That is NOT ok.
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1 ReplyNormally I would agree, but our school district has a D- in education qualities and a regular D in faculty. Nobody worthwhile will ever go there
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1 ReplyEdited by Zavala's Pet Cat: 11/7/2016 7:57:06 PMWhy should i have to pay for an education where after 18ish years that these Тупые трахается come out on the other side no smarter than an average chimpanzee with circus training?
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26 RepliesI see your point, and you've proved why the existence of public schools are good. I, personally, have no problem with supporting via my tax dollars. However, I have a question. Why is it the people's job to pay for the schooling, and not the parent's?
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9 RepliesAs as something of a conservative, I disagree. If you can't pay to educate your children, you probably shouldn't of had them. Besides, with all the potential financial aid, scholarships, and students loans you can go to college on the cheap. I'm barley paying over $5,000 a semester, which I work part time to help cover, after all my scholarships and stipends are subtracted. Hard work should get you into college, not other peoples' money.
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9 RepliesIf anything, take a stroll outside and count how many moronic man-children you encounter. THAT is why education is important. If you disagree, idk what else could convince you.
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2 RepliesI would rather my hard earned dollars go into bombs and missiles that will destroy schools on the other side of the world, creating disillusioned militants that in turn kill and butcher... [spoiler]Oh wait! They already do! Nvm...[/spoiler]
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8 RepliesThe problem is out 900 property tax this year. 500 of it is for the schools. And that's just too damn high.
