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4/29/2010 10:57:55 AM
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Spiker Confirmed!!! Bungie Source Inside
Yay!
EDIT:[url]http://www.bungie.net/images/reachstats/weapons/spiker.png[/url]
[Edited on 04.29.2010 3:00 AM PDT]
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Hylebos [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] pope jos look dude if you havent noticed hylebos is famous here so i dont think you should disagree with him[/quote] No, please, disagree with me, just make sure that you know what you are talking about.[/quote] Good response ^^
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You would think that most of the weapons would at least be in forge if not online.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] AudaciousZealot Ok, if the Spiker and Engineers can be in Reach, then Hunters and Drones better be in as well. On-Topic: Nice! Brutes have another weapon! I hope it's heavily modified and actually useful now.[/quote] Ok, I have no problem with hunters. They're great to fight and I hope they appear in Reach. But drones shouldn't. They weren't in CE, and they suck, especially in ODST. I hate shooting them, they're not interesting to fight, and I have to have an SMG while fighting them to really get anywhere in Firefight, and this is when I get rid of the SMG because bullets don't do -blam!-.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Hylebos [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] pope jos look dude if you havent noticed hylebos is famous here so i dont think you should disagree with him[/quote] No, please, disagree with me, just make sure that you know what you are talking about.[/quote] yer but its impossible you always no the answer, btw did you get an early code my friends were making bets
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] pope jos look dude if you havent noticed hylebos is famous here so i dont think you should disagree with him[/quote] No, please, disagree with me, just make sure that you know what you are talking about.
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look dude if you havent noticed hylebos is famous here so i dont think you should disagree with him
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Techno Greek [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Hylebos [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Helljumper 02 The spiker shouln't be in reach as reach is set before the brutes came into the main picture, it was an invasion of elites, grunts and jackels/skirmishers. I read an article on halopedia telling what date(roughly)the dfferent species joined the covenant. [/quote] Except that Brutes were on harvest. And Brutes are in Reach. I defer you to my Spiker thread which is floating around if you would like the evidence.[/quote]Only Eric Nyland's novels are authentic Haloverse there, buddy, and according to him, at the time of CE, Brutes were only doing internships as ceremonial guards.[/quote] You live under a rock or something? Games are the highest level of canon. A newer book or film or game trumps the older ones. Nylund is not the only Halo writer, and his early books are largely retconned in many places, like when the Elites were first met (Reach project page clearly states that they were present on Harvest too) and also the amount of Spartan IIs and their deaths. Of course if you disregard something as canon, sticking to your own version of Halo, that's fine. But here, on the forum, please stick to official canon as much as possible. Personally i don't keep Legends piece, the Package as canonical due the amount of -blam!- in it... But officially it is. [Edited on 04.29.2010 2:54 PM PDT]
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Techno Greek [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Hylebos [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Helljumper 02 The spiker shouln't be in reach as reach is set before the brutes came into the main picture, it was an invasion of elites, grunts and jackels/skirmishers. I read an article on halopedia telling what date(roughly)the dfferent species joined the covenant. [/quote] Except that Brutes were on harvest. And Brutes are in Reach. I defer you to my Spiker thread which is floating around if you would like the evidence.[/quote]Only Eric Nyland's novels are authentic Haloverse there, buddy, and according to him, at the time of CE, Brutes were only doing internships as ceremonial guards.[/quote] Contact Harvest was written by Joseph Staten, who helped write the story for the original Halo game.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Dappert there were absouloutley NO BRUTES ON REACH back then and the spiker is a brute weapon elites nor grunts nor jackals nor hunters CARRY THEM!!!!!!!!!!!!! this is fake there will be NO SPIKER!!!!!!!in reach bungie has given you a whole butt load of weapons in reach and that aint enough???!!!! there will be no spiker sorry but it aint gonna happen dude this is a nice piture that you drew though but you only drew this piture because you want to make pepole bleive that theres a spiker in reach do i have to hack bungie for and more info??!![/quote] Somebody's been under a rock. Confirmed Brute elements in Reach; Brute Hammer, Brute Chieftain.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] snaky jones I never used the spiker anyway,hopeless against shields.[/quote] Based on that logic, so are all non-plasma weapons. Weapons in Halo 3 deal, with the exception of plasma weapons, one type of damage. Players have 115HP, of those 70 are for shields. Melee deals 70pts dmg (or more if the weapon is bladed, dedicated melee weapon, or a heavy weapon). AR bullet does 7.5pts, BR bullet 6pts so the full burst is 18pts. he plasma weapons deal very low normal damage but have very large shield damage... The Spiker deals always same damage, but the reason it feels doing badly against the shields is the low rate of fire... and the fact you need to be quite good at leading shots. All this is based on info from Bungie (2007/8 BWUs..) and the testing done by Halowiki guys, here: [url]http://halowiki.net/p/Weapon_damage[/url] Just thought i'd tell this... Yeah, it is a bit off topic...
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Techno Greek [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Hylebos [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Helljumper 02 The spiker shouln't be in reach as reach is set before the brutes came into the main picture, it was an invasion of elites, grunts and jackels/skirmishers. I read an article on halopedia telling what date(roughly)the dfferent species joined the covenant. [/quote] Except that Brutes were on harvest. And Brutes are in Reach. I defer you to my Spiker thread which is floating around if you would like the evidence.[/quote]Only Eric Nyland's novels are authentic Haloverse there, buddy, and according to him, at the time of CE, Brutes were only doing internships as ceremonial guards.[/quote] So what do you have to say about the forerunner book coming out in 2 months by greg? it isn't legit becuase Eric didn't write it? Yea and i can only wear Purple becuase that is the only color volcom sells, grow up. Halo Evolution Also states that brute controlled ships were at reach, just like how they were at harvest.
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Ok, if the Spiker and Engineers can be in Reach, then Hunters and Drones better be in as well. On-Topic: Nice! Brutes have another weapon! I hope it's heavily modified and actually useful now.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Hylebos [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Helljumper 02 The spiker shouln't be in reach as reach is set before the brutes came into the main picture, it was an invasion of elites, grunts and jackels/skirmishers. I read an article on halopedia telling what date(roughly)the dfferent species joined the covenant. [/quote] Except that Brutes were on harvest. And Brutes are in Reach. I defer you to my Spiker thread which is floating around if you would like the evidence.[/quote]Only Eric Nyland's novels are authentic Haloverse there, buddy, and according to him, at the time of CE, Brutes were only doing internships as ceremonial guards.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Helljumper 02 The spiker shouln't be in reach as reach is set before the brutes came into the main picture, it was an invasion of elites, grunts and jackels/skirmishers. I read an article on halopedia telling what date(roughly)the dfferent species joined the covenant. [/quote] Except that Brutes were on harvest. And Brutes are in Reach. I defer you to my Spiker thread which is floating around if you would like the evidence.
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The spiker shouln't be in reach as reach is set before the brutes came into the main picture, it was an invasion of elites, grunts and jackels/skirmishers. I read an article on halopedia telling what date(roughly)the dfferent species joined the covenant.
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Hmm, nice find. I won't be using them though because they only seemed to be somewhat good while duel wielded.
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Yay thank God! A useless weapon that I will never use! And Bringing back brutes? Haha dirty apes! Bad times:(
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Bungle Pro.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Hylebos [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] AngasBoy [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Hylebos [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Pretty Much Everybody in the Forum inb4Hylebos[/quote] Yeah... I have College... Despite all apperances I'm not on this site 24/7... I saw this earlier this morning. I'm suprised that evidence that strongly points towards the inclusion of the Spiker was found so early, though might anybody care to explain how this was discovered and what the implications of it are (does every weapon that will end up in the final game have a picture, ect.).[/quote] Weapons like, The Fuel Rod Cannon were fun. Implying that its possible that unrevealed weapons are up on the website I havent posted since page 4 because I had a rant about Actvision-Bungie partnership ):[/quote] No, but [i]how[/i] were they found?[/quote] Clicking on pics of the Beta weapons on service records and then playing with the URL
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] AngasBoy [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Hylebos [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Pretty Much Everybody in the Forum inb4Hylebos[/quote] Yeah... I have College... Despite all apperances I'm not on this site 24/7... I saw this earlier this morning. I'm suprised that evidence that strongly points towards the inclusion of the Spiker was found so early, though might anybody care to explain how this was discovered and what the implications of it are (does every weapon that will end up in the final game have a picture, ect.).[/quote] Weapons like, The Fuel Rod Cannon were fun. Implying that its possible that unrevealed weapons are up on the website I havent posted since page 4 because I had a rant about Actvision-Bungie partnership ):[/quote] No, but [i]how[/i] were they found?
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Trap51b Okay, i'm bumping this a bit now.. but Hylebos should see this. Dual Wielded Spikers are sometimes rather useful in Halo 3, since many don't expect them. But they also require a map with a lot of cover. Single Spikers are useless since the AR does the exact same thing... Though Hylebos argued that the Spiker works differently, i don't see the differences in the rate of fire and projectile speed to be a practical concern in close range combat where the Spikers are used in any case. In Reach, biggest changes the Spiker needs are a bit faster projectile, longer range, faster rate of fire. By the way, did you know that the Spiker fired from one side (say the Behemoth Elephant spawn) to the other (Leviathan) can hit and deal damage? That's longer range than the Battle Rifle has. Useless bit of trivia.[/quote] Haha i played on a zombie/forged map where you had to hit guys on the other side with spikers. It was one spike 1 kill. = )
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] The MLG Pope inB4Hylebos By the way, this proves nothing. There were sword images in the ODST database, along with sword spree/slice n dice medals, but there was no sword in ODST.[/quote] Odst was different they were using Halo 3's engine which had the Sword in it. In Reach its all new so they would have to create a new Spiker and manually put it in.
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Oh God, 9 pages. Last night it was 4 and i come back and it's gone to nine.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] snaky jones I never used the spiker anyway,hopeless against shields.[/quote] ):
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I never used the spiker anyway,hopeless against shields.
