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3/31/2016 11:47:01 AM
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Neither, I'd rather have FDR risen from the grave and made president again
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He wasn't even that great. A lot of his policies are what have crippled America. His only feat was that he happened to be president when WWII happened.
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"wasn't even that great" Is considered to be one of the best presidents in all of US history by both conservatives and liberals.
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Proof?
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[url=http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/choice2004/leadership/schlesinger.html]It really isn't that hard to find[/url]. [url=https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/monkey-cage/wp/2015/02/16/new-ranking-of-u-s-presidents-puts-lincoln-1-obama-18-kennedy-judged-most-over-rated/]Lincoln should be in the top since he kind of freed the slaves and managed to get the Union back together after the South decided to whine about how they couldn't keep slaves and how much they were being underrepresented.[/url] Though, in the next 2, there is FDR. [url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historical_rankings_of_Presidents_of_the_United_States]Though this is Wikipedia, you can easily access the primary sources used by Wikipedia. FDR is considered the best president in US history for Democrats, while he is ranked number 3 by Republicans, just under Lincoln and Washington, who both also contributed hugely to the US[/url].
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But the base these off of things that were irrelevant to FDR. He didn't fix the economy, WWII did. Also, Lincoln didn't give a shit about freeing slave, he just wanted to keep the union together. Teddy best president. Andrew Jackson close second.
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I'll pull the old Republican analogy out that they like to use so much against liberals: "guns don't kill people, they don't have a life of their own". Except, I will use it in terms of the economy: "The economy won't fix itself, it doesn't have a life of its own", which is true. Laissez-Faire market is not good, because if time goes on, monopolies will rise up, trusts will rise up that are too hard to break down if no one does a thing or reins the corporations in. That's what happened with the oil companies, that's what happened with the railroad companies, and that's what is happening to the banks right now. Teddy was a very good president, but not the best. Jackson was a jackass of a president, but he was efficient. He was nowhere near the best. Lincoln brought the Union back together by thoroughly backhanding the South and telling them they need to act mature rather than be an embarrassment to the world. If Lincoln really didn't give a shit about slaves, he wouldn't have signed the Emancipation Proclamation. The North was already steamrolling the South, and the Emancipation Proclamation was essentially the figurative saving rope of ensuring Blacks in the South had a chance at being treated as a decent human being after the war ended. While it was mostly great around the US, the only place that didn't seem to get the memo was the South after the Civil War, seeing the Jim Crow laws kind of ensured Blacks were still treated like shit. Hell, Mississippi even had slavery still legal up until 2013.
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[quote]Laissez-Faire market is not good, [/quote] Ha, didn't read past that. Opinion discarded.
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Eh, suit yourself. No skin off of my bones if you decide to stay ignorant and dumb about a subject you seem to know nothing about.
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And yet he'd make a better candidate than anyone else who's currently running.
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I'm not going to pretend to care about Bernstein or $hill-dawg. How is he better than Trump?
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loltrump
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Wow, you really swayed me on that argument. Good job. Keep it up. Proud of you.
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Since when were we arguing? Go on, keep making stuff up in your little head.
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I don't understand why you are so upset. Lol.
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You're the one with sand in your vagina
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My vagina is quite clean. You are the perturbed one, comrade.
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No, I'm not.
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Okay there, buddy.
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Alright then, kiddo.
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Okay then, dude.
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Alrighty, broski
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Haha same there, brotada.
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I hear ya brozilla
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I'm done.
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Me too
