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Edited by FoMan123: 3/20/2016 11:19:38 AM
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Why the Fight For LGBT Rights Didn't End With Marriage Equality

I'm seeing a lot of severely misinformed people around here who think that because same-sex marriage was finally legalized, that suddenly all of the struggles of the LGBT community are suddenly over. You could not be more wrong. The five major points from the article: 1. [b]Discrimination[/b]. It is still legal in the majority of states to discriminate against gay and trans people with regards to employment. Obama made gay and trans discrimination illegal for government jobs, but most jobs are not government jobs. So yeah, we can get married now... and then we can go to work the next day and get fired by our homophobic boss. 2. [b]Adoption[/b]. Many politicians (Republicans) and a lot of the public are still against gay adoption, and while it is now legal in almost every state, Republican politicians nation-wide are actively trying to repeal those rights. 3. [b]Homelessness[/b]. Due to a combination of job discrimination and unaccepting, unloving parents, 40% of homeless youth are gay and trans. This affects trans youth even harder, and homeless trans youth are disproportionately sexually assaulted at homeless shelters. 4. [b]Trans rights[/b]. Discrimination, bullying, and hate crimes are even [i]worse[/i] against trans people than they are against gay people. 41% of trans people have attempted suicide, generally due to lack of acceptance, inability to afford (and lack of insurance coverage for) trans-related medical care, or due to homelessness caused by inability to find work because of discrimination. In addition, Republicans all over the country are continuing to attempt to roll out "bathroom bills" that would force trans people into unsafe spaces. 5. [b]HIV and AIDS[/b]. This doesn't so much have to do with equality, but it's still an important issue. HIV and AIDS disproportionally affect gay men, and this has been a major issue for the community since the 80s. Some points of my own I'd like to add: 6. [b]Panic defense[/b]. In 49 out of 50 states (California being the exception) it is still totally legal to use what's called the "gay/trans panic defense." This where the person who has committed a hate crime against a gay or trans person will claim "self defense" and "temporary insanity" in response to finding out their victim was gay or trans. This is 100% real and is used successfully to this day. 7. [b]Sex education[/b]. Sex ed is already lacking, even for straight people. "Abstinence only" sex ed has been proven to be completely ineffective, and yet it is still widely taught across the country. But even more unfortunate is that sex ed in schools is entirely heteronormative. If you're gay or trans and need to learn about the birds and the bees, heterosexual sex ed isn't going to be very useful. In order for all people, regardless of gender identity or sexual orientation, to be able to enjoy [i]safe[/i] sex, sex ed must account for everyone, not just straight people. 8. [b]Representation[/b]. Gay and trans people are egregiously underrepresented in TV and film, media outlets that almost everyone goes to for entertainment and escapism. If you are straight and cisgender, you will find loads of relatable characters on screen. If your'e gay or trans, it's very hard to find relatable characters. Furthermore, trans people especially are commonly the butt of disgustingly offensive jokes in movies, usually as a way of poking fun at a straight man's sexuality. This lack of representation and horrible caricaturization teaches gay and trans youth that they are less important than others because they don't see people like themselves on TV. 9. [b]Education and acceptance[/b]. Even if all of the things previously mentioned are fixed, that doesn't mean that everyone suddenly accepts us. Making workplace discrimination illegal doesn't stop prejudiced employers from coming up with other excuses to not hire us. Making punishments harsher for hate crime perpetrators doesn't stop hate crimes from happening. Equality in the eyes of the law doesn't end oppression. The only way for the LGBT community to truly have equal standing in society, to not be deemed "lesser," is by educating people. We have to teach people that we're born this way, we don't choose it. We have to teach people that gender and sexuality are fluid, and that falling anywhere on the spectrum is valid. We have to teach people that everyone deserves basic human decency and respect,. We have to teach people to celebrate our differences rather than using them to divide us. We have to undo this archaic, traditionalist heteronormativity and cisnormativity in our culture that perpetuate hatred and oppression. My gay and trans brothers, sisters, and non-binary siblings are still dying for our cause. Every day I see a new article about a gay or trans person being attacked or killed, or committing suicide because their parents refuse to love them. [b][i]This fight is far from over.[/i][/b] Now please stop trying to convince me that my community has achieved equality. Your ignorance will be ignored.

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  • More like Why the fight with Princess Anomaly didn't end with the ban- will you just -blam!- off already?

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    • You say we are horribly misinformed, but feminists and the regressive left still think the wage gap and rap[i]e[/i] culture exist. Even though it has been proven wrong so many times that I'm getting tired of saying it.

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      • how about you move to asia or the middle east. it seems like they need you more than we need you.

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      • Oh, you're a princess now? If you want to set up equality for both genders by the demolishing this so-called "Patriarchy" we live in, shouldn't [b]THAT[/b] be the first thing you destroy?

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        • Edited by Vicex: 3/18/2016 8:36:34 PM
          Those sources.... I'm not sure how you get HIV affecting homosexual men disproportionately as a battle against discrimination... I know you said that it isn't... But why bring it up? There's nothing that can be done about it that isn't already being done. You can tell people all about the risks, but it's up to them to take preventive measures. It's simply because that population has a high incidence of it... There's no great evil behind it- I think people are more than aware of the risks and lack of education isn't the issue.

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        • The fight didn't end because LGBT people won't stfu. The only people who care about LGBT people being LGBT are other LGBT people.

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          • Honestly, who would want to put a kid through a life with 2 dads or 2 moms. That should not be a thing.

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            • I call bullshit on #3 40%? There are so few gay and trans people in america, that they could not possibly make up that large a percentage of the homeless youth.

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            • Take a trip to the Middle East.

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            • 1. When does sexuality come up in a job interview? 2.) an unfit parent is an unfit parent i know plenty of 2 mom and 2 dad family's 3.) this is void because number 1^ lazy is lazy it doesn't matter who or what you are 4.) I sexually identify as a toaster so if a trans bathroom gets put in place then I should have a special bathroom to be a toaster in "see what happens next?" No point in going half way you wanna be a lady chop it off an squat it up or poop at home 5.) use a condom like the rest of us....how dumb are you? #pcbullshitoverrated

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              • Why are you so pissed off all the time? Honest question. Just chill. Every goddamn day you try to shove this shit on everybody and expect us to accept it. The LGBT...whatever community has won some pretty good battles here lately so let it level out for a min. If you're that hell bent on stirring shit up, go to a LGBT123Abc forum and fire you up an army over there.

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              • Be glad that you don't live in the Middle East and your head isn't chopped off. [spoiler]stop whining[/spoiler]

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              • Wow all of these people with this " It's unnatural to be LGBT because you cant reproduce" crap lol. For one if I wanted reproduce I could by using my sperm. I don't have to have sex with a women. Also quit acting like you purposely have sex to purposely have children. I mean really?!?! Really? And how do you know if it's unnatural or not. Last time I checked I was created by natural means so....Furthermore I'm pretty sure nature has a way of taking care of itself. I mean just think for a fuking minute: If everyone on the planet earth was straight could you imagine the overpopulation? Didn't think about that huh? Nature has an IQ of 1,000,000 it's nowhere near dumb enough to let something like that happen. I also think that there are people who are simply suppossed to produce and those that aren't. That's where you all (straight) and my kind (LGBT) come in. Just one last thing some of you really need to do some research on STDs and that's all I have to say about that lol. It's kinda funny how you all call it a mental illness. You want a mental illness? Here you go: Homophobia Homophobia is a disease which affects the entire society. Though the American Psychological Association has proclaimed that it is no more abnormal to be gay or lesbian than it is to be left-handed, people are still fearful about it. Common symptoms include: Homophobes try to avoid people have who same sex preferences. Being around them brings out a fear or disgust response in the phobics: shaking, sweating, and the desire to flee or even anger or hatred. Many homophobes display violence towards these people. They feel such men and women are either abnormal (sick) or immoral (sinful). People who are themselves LGBTQs try to change their sexual orientation or desperately try to deny or change what they feel. Many end up committing suicide due extreme fear. Homophobia thus hurts the entire society by suppressing creativity and expression –it only locks people into rigid gender based roles. It can stigmatize families, children and those who have and haven’t come out about their orientation. It can keep vital information away from children and teenagers-information which is necessary in this age of HIV and AIDS. The phobic often drives a person to marry heterosexuals which then adds to the stress. Such a marriage is not only traumatic for the homosexual but also to their kids and spouses. The prejudice or fear of homosexuals demeans these people while making the society unsafe for everyone. [b]If this sounds like you then please for the sake of your own sanity if not for the safety of the LGBT (we should actually be afraid of you or rather for you) get some help you need it.[/b]

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                • That's because people in lgbt community aren't people. They're subhuman.

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                  • Here we exhibit Off Topic in it's natural state. Sadly it's natural state is old fashion values you would often atribute to a great-great grandparent. Only with the agressive tendancies of a teenage yob.

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                    • On the bathroom point, it is unsafe and irresponsible to allow trans people go into bathrooms that don't correlate to their natural gender. Instead like we do for disabled people there should be a push for single stall bathrooms more.

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                      • Mind control is a futile pursuit.

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                        • Relevant https://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/196865810/0/0

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                          • And then we eat cookies!

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                          • You can't expect the type of changes you're asking for to happen overnight. Being trans has been relatively new to the mainstream . Things like this will probably take a several generations before change like those mentioned in your post will happen.

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                          • https://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/196865810/0/0

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                          • Edited by Jay: 3/18/2016 7:58:28 PM
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                            That whole panic defense bit sounds bs, but fact is stranger than fiction. We just need to focus on the law for now, and then people will follow suit over time. At least the important parts of the country will follow suit. [spoiler]This is just me kinda nit-picking, but it really bothers me when people say [i]my[/i] community. It just sounds kinda pompous to me. That's just me tho [/spoiler]

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                          • Sounds like you're against human nature

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                          • You're gonna keep fighting for gay rights, but guess what people will always have an opinion! You can't change someone's opinion because you're opinion is flawed like everyone else. The best you can do is not to bring up the subject, because it creates hostility, and judgement. Just be yourself and stop complaining! Is it that hard?

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                          • This post is gay

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                          • I came here because I saw Anomaly.

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