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Edited by FoMan123: 3/20/2016 11:19:38 AM
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Why the Fight For LGBT Rights Didn't End With Marriage Equality

I'm seeing a lot of severely misinformed people around here who think that because same-sex marriage was finally legalized, that suddenly all of the struggles of the LGBT community are suddenly over. You could not be more wrong. The five major points from the article: 1. [b]Discrimination[/b]. It is still legal in the majority of states to discriminate against gay and trans people with regards to employment. Obama made gay and trans discrimination illegal for government jobs, but most jobs are not government jobs. So yeah, we can get married now... and then we can go to work the next day and get fired by our homophobic boss. 2. [b]Adoption[/b]. Many politicians (Republicans) and a lot of the public are still against gay adoption, and while it is now legal in almost every state, Republican politicians nation-wide are actively trying to repeal those rights. 3. [b]Homelessness[/b]. Due to a combination of job discrimination and unaccepting, unloving parents, 40% of homeless youth are gay and trans. This affects trans youth even harder, and homeless trans youth are disproportionately sexually assaulted at homeless shelters. 4. [b]Trans rights[/b]. Discrimination, bullying, and hate crimes are even [i]worse[/i] against trans people than they are against gay people. 41% of trans people have attempted suicide, generally due to lack of acceptance, inability to afford (and lack of insurance coverage for) trans-related medical care, or due to homelessness caused by inability to find work because of discrimination. In addition, Republicans all over the country are continuing to attempt to roll out "bathroom bills" that would force trans people into unsafe spaces. 5. [b]HIV and AIDS[/b]. This doesn't so much have to do with equality, but it's still an important issue. HIV and AIDS disproportionally affect gay men, and this has been a major issue for the community since the 80s. Some points of my own I'd like to add: 6. [b]Panic defense[/b]. In 49 out of 50 states (California being the exception) it is still totally legal to use what's called the "gay/trans panic defense." This where the person who has committed a hate crime against a gay or trans person will claim "self defense" and "temporary insanity" in response to finding out their victim was gay or trans. This is 100% real and is used successfully to this day. 7. [b]Sex education[/b]. Sex ed is already lacking, even for straight people. "Abstinence only" sex ed has been proven to be completely ineffective, and yet it is still widely taught across the country. But even more unfortunate is that sex ed in schools is entirely heteronormative. If you're gay or trans and need to learn about the birds and the bees, heterosexual sex ed isn't going to be very useful. In order for all people, regardless of gender identity or sexual orientation, to be able to enjoy [i]safe[/i] sex, sex ed must account for everyone, not just straight people. 8. [b]Representation[/b]. Gay and trans people are egregiously underrepresented in TV and film, media outlets that almost everyone goes to for entertainment and escapism. If you are straight and cisgender, you will find loads of relatable characters on screen. If your'e gay or trans, it's very hard to find relatable characters. Furthermore, trans people especially are commonly the butt of disgustingly offensive jokes in movies, usually as a way of poking fun at a straight man's sexuality. This lack of representation and horrible caricaturization teaches gay and trans youth that they are less important than others because they don't see people like themselves on TV. 9. [b]Education and acceptance[/b]. Even if all of the things previously mentioned are fixed, that doesn't mean that everyone suddenly accepts us. Making workplace discrimination illegal doesn't stop prejudiced employers from coming up with other excuses to not hire us. Making punishments harsher for hate crime perpetrators doesn't stop hate crimes from happening. Equality in the eyes of the law doesn't end oppression. The only way for the LGBT community to truly have equal standing in society, to not be deemed "lesser," is by educating people. We have to teach people that we're born this way, we don't choose it. We have to teach people that gender and sexuality are fluid, and that falling anywhere on the spectrum is valid. We have to teach people that everyone deserves basic human decency and respect,. We have to teach people to celebrate our differences rather than using them to divide us. We have to undo this archaic, traditionalist heteronormativity and cisnormativity in our culture that perpetuate hatred and oppression. My gay and trans brothers, sisters, and non-binary siblings are still dying for our cause. Every day I see a new article about a gay or trans person being attacked or killed, or committing suicide because their parents refuse to love them. [b][i]This fight is far from over.[/i][/b] Now please stop trying to convince me that my community has achieved equality. Your ignorance will be ignored.

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  • [quote]5. HIV and AIDS. This doesn't so much have to do with equality, but it's still an important issue. HIV and AIDS disproportionally affect gay men, and this has been a major issue for the community since the 80s[/quote] This is due to the promiscuity which runs rampant in the LGBT community. As somebody who struggles with homosexual attractions, I can tell you that lust plays a bigger factor than actual romance. Therefore it is not uncommon for members of the LGBT community to seek multiple partners. Therefore the transmission of STDs is a lot more rampant.

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    • I agree on #7. Only #7. Condoms for EVERYONE!

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    • [i]*Loads TX-130 Saber-Tank lazer round*[/i] I should link you too a guy that would be a very good pain in the side for you.

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    • There are some decent points here.I have to wonder if the reaction would be different if this thread was posted by a different popular user.

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      • Talking about this topic here won't help at all. It'll just wear your thumbs out.

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      • Edited by Apollos: 3/18/2016 1:44:13 PM
        Wasted time Edit: why, why the fu- would you put STDs in an equality thread.

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        • Valid and interesting thread >[i]Still flooded by edgy 12 year olds[/i]

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          • I'd say for the most part, law has done all it can. Now we just wait for people's opinions and perceptions of the world to change.

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          • Oh how I missed your shitstorms

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          • I don't like you. And those punk ass ninjas removed my name and won't let me change it. [spoiler]I'M CALLING YOU OUT NINJAS, FITE ME![/spoiler]

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            • I found all of this switched to attack helicopters

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            • OMG stop wining, it's only as bad as you make it.

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              • Edited by Doctor Jensen: 3/19/2016 3:47:25 AM
                I get what you're saying, and I agree that gay and Trans people should be treated more fairly, however, I have a few qualms with your arguments. -Constant use of republicans is stereotypical and biased. This makes me want to stop reading altogether. -[i]Homelessness:[/i] 40% of homeless youth are gay/trans. So that means that 60% are straight. What point are you trying to make here? Both sides are just about equally homeless. EDIT: Looking back at this, I made an awful point and concede to his point here. -[i]Representation:[/i] Okay, let's look at the facts here. It's been reported that up to 5% of people in America. FIVE PERCENT. In most every TV show I watch there are gay characters. Heck, Star Wars is getting a gay character. There's [i]plenty[/i] of representation in the media. Lastly, this isn't the place to try to make a point. It's bungie. And bungie... bungie never changes.

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                • Edited by NoNaaame: 3/19/2016 2:42:14 AM
                  At this point, the LGBT community is just grasping at ways to milk this "equality" movement as much as possible. You can't make parents not kick out there kids because they are gay for the same reason you can't stop parents from kicking out kids that have done drugs or had sex.

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                  • Edited by RynoTheEdgeLord: 3/19/2016 1:25:44 AM
                    Welcome to equality. No more special treatment. You're now homeless like us, jobless like us, rejected like us, poor like us, how does it feel to be American? That's the issue with these arguments. It's not only the LGBT community that suffers from all of what you mentioned. You all have a persecution complex. Every group, minority or majority, has people who are homeless, or jobless, or education less. Edit: corrected punctuation errors :P

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                    • Gay

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                    • Edited by Noire: 3/19/2016 1:50:47 AM
                      I agree with everything, but the discrimination isn't going to stop, nor the underrepresentation. Mostly because it's hard to change ideas even with laws in place, and LGBT people have to have some sort of talent it shouldn't be given away, just because of the way they sexually identify that undermines true equality.

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                    • I mean I agree with a lot of what you say but there is only so much that's going to change in such a short amount of time. As a bisexual man I'm really happy that the lgbtq community has got as far as it has, and I know there's going to be more and more changes soon enough that will make things better for the community. The younger generations that are growing up now are seeing more and more that hate and persecution are pointless and hurtful, and they are much more accepting. The only thing you said that I believe you should have left out is the part about AIDS. That and that alone comes down to personal responsibility. Yes there isn't really school taught sex education that pertains to members of the LGBT community but they still teach to use jimmies if you're going to be having sex. If that isn't listened to it has nothing to do with sex ed that's just people being irresponsible with their genitals. And beyond that children growing up these days should feel comfortable talking to their parents about sex stuff if they aren't getting the proper education elsewhere. I really hope everything you have said gets through to even one person in this community and helps change their mindset on these issues. I know you get a lot of shit on here but it seems like (at least on this issue) your heart is in the right place. Good luck to you ma'am!

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                    • Well.... I would say something but... As a straight white man, whatever I say will be regarded as prejudice.

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                      • "Love one another as I have loved you." Words everybody should strive to live by.

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                        • http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/512/382/b4c.gif

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                        • [i]Who let you back in?![/i]

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                        • #5 HIV/AIDS MAYBE THEY SHOULD STOP BUTT -blam!-ING EACH OTHER AND THEIR DISEASE PROBLEMS WILL GO AWAY?

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                        • What if someone sucks at their job, gets fired, and claims it was because they're gay?

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                          • Why the hell did you bother including HIV and Aids in here?

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                            • What are the bathroom bills that would be unsafe? I don't think I'm familiar with those. Force usage of a specific gender bathroom? Just curious. I am somewhat behind on what is happening in legislation.

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