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5/9/2009 3:41:32 PM
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Halo vs Star Trek
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What about Star Trek?
Halo vs Star Trek?
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Dark Lord PJ back from a long think over this and i have concluded the flood and forerunners would be the only ones that stand any kind of chance as a lot of people are thinking the main couple from the star trek federation Klingon ect ect but when you put the federation, Klingon's, romulans, Borg, Dominion, cardasians, breen, species 8472 as just the start halo is out numbered by stupid numbers as each race from star trek has a fleet the size of the covy's so in space it's a ratio of 3:8 (flood doesn't have fleet) even with spartens it would be a masacre because it would only take one borg to steal the forerunner tech and then it would be over with only the flood left that could cause problems (althought not sure what would happen if 8472 got flooded up)[/quote] Hell, if the Borg can't even assimilate 8472, the Flood have no hope and it's more like 1:100 000, seeing as the Borg own most of the Delta quadrant, the Dominion can pump out ships and soldiers like they were paper hats and Startrek has it's own version of Forerunners. Halo = Pwnt.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] wrentah well HALO may fail on some fronts but on the ground halo would probbaly have the upper hand with spartan lazers/ scarab tanks/ ODST's/ covenant drop pods stealth troops and sheilds i have to say yes the star treck universe may have a match in space but on the ground even though there are more species the mix of unsc and covenent would i have to say even out the playing field not just b cause of the troops but also because of the naval craft the halo series use cause in startreck they dont seem to have many ground vehicles or much in the way of naval atg craft so yes space halo may lose but on the ground with help from a joint force of UNSC/ covenent/ and forerunners they would probs lose or meet a fair match especialy if the covenant can build their super turrets /aa turrets but im probs wrong lol[/quote] Six words. Klingon Warrior, Dominion Soldier. Hergoen Hunter. These are some of thee most deadly ground forces is Startrek, failing that we can just call in the Borg to unleash some pwnage.
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hmmm in an addition to my last post there's also the question of what would infect what would the Borg beat the flood infection or would the flood beat Borg my moneys on the Borg winning this one thought simply because the flood can't infect the machine in the Borg and when they try to infect the Borg the nanits would just infect the flood. PS i think we should not count the Q and the Halo's in this as the Qs wouldn't be affected by the halo's and they are too over powered
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] wrentah well HALO may fail on some fronts but on the ground halo would probbaly have the upper hand with spartan lazers/ scarab tanks/ ODST's/ covenant drop pods stealth troops and sheilds i have to say yes the star treck universe may have a match in space but on the ground even though there are more species the mix of unsc and covenent would i have to say even out the playing field not just b cause of the troops but also because of the naval craft the halo series use cause in startreck they dont seem to have many ground vehicles or much in the way of naval atg craft so yes space halo may lose but on the ground with help from a joint force of UNSC/ covenent/ and forerunners they would probs lose or meet a fair match especialy if the covenant can build their super turrets /aa turrets but im probs wrong lol[/quote] I would imagine that Star Trek would actually be rather effective against the flood. The Flood are weak against energy and heat and phasers should tear right through them. In space though the only two sides that could theoretically stand a chance would be the Forerunner and Precursors mainly because we've never seen one of those ships destroyed. And we have no idea the kind of firepower they posses. So they really can't be counted. But ship v ship 1 phaser to the bridge of a UNSC ship and it's dead. I mean all it would have to do is pierce the glass it's not like those ships have shields. On second thought who the hell was stupid enough to put the bridge in the front of the ship with no shielding? I mean 1 archer missile should be able to take it out... [Edited on 05.09.2009 9:28 AM PDT]
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and do not forget that the halo universe also has its diverse types of ai with the ability to calculate movements at the fraction of a second for e.g. the burn the UNSC spirit of fire did around the sun in the planets core and can also calculate a wepons predicted path only relying on the ships counter measures and speed to avoid the wepons and also the covenent ships have a concentrated plasma wepon that if the craft gets above a star treck ship would probbaly drill a star ship in two if not do some serious damage
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] wrentah and do not forget that the halo universe also has its diverse types of ai with the ability to calculate movements at the fraction of a second for e.g. the burn the UNSC spirit of fire did around the sun in the planets core and can also calculate a wepons predicted path only relying on the ships counter measures and speed to avoid the wepons and also the covenent ships have a concentrated plasma wepon that if the craft gets above a star treck ship would probbaly drill a star ship in two if not do some serious damage [/quote] Well, for starters Spock calculated the trajectory around a black-hole in order to send Enterprise 2 hours into the future in his head. Secondly, The Covie ships wouldn't get the chance to get above one of the Startrek ships, and even if it did they would just adjust the shield modulation to reflect most of the energy back to the Covie ship, crippling it in the process.
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None of you seem to say anything about a 1,000-strong Forerunner fleet. A single Forerunner dreadnaught can decimate an entire Covenant Armada with but a scratch. Think of a fleet with 999 more of that...and then some.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] LiquidNazgul42 None of you seem to say anything about a 1,000-strong Forerunner fleet. A single Forerunner dreadnaught can decimate an entire Covenant Armada with but a scratch. Think of a fleet with 999 more of that...and then some.[/quote] And where is this mythical fleet? Besides, I think this is limited to [i]living[/i] species, not extinct ones. Even so. . . Q. . .
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to be honest forerunner would probbaly be the last race left in the end i mean yes the star treck series had all these impervious sheilds and powerfull wepons but there is one thing we are missing here it is the fact that in halo the forerunners were able to replicate ground and natural terrain with nothing but energy and materials aswell as make a wepon capable of desimateing all life in the galaxy/ universe and also in ghosts of onyx they were able to create pockets in the space time continuium that allow them to be safe from all effects of the ring so to be honest the forerunner wepons far supass anything that star treck have to offer and in the end are probbaly as power full as the Q and dont forget that the forerunner's technology resids in the sentinels and only a fraction of what they have has only ever been mentioned in the series and the engineers can repair things in the blink of an eye [Edited on 05.09.2009 9:48 AM PDT]
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] wrentah to be honest forerunner would probbaly be the last race left in the end i mean yes the star treck series had all these impervious sheilds and powerfull wepons but there is one thing we are missing here it is the fact that in halo the forerunners were able to replicate ground and natural terrain with nothing but energy and materials aswell as make a wepon capable of desimateing all life in the galaxy/ universe and also in ghosts of onyx they were able to create pockets in the space time continuium that allow them to be safe from all effects of the ring so to be honest the forerunner wepons far supass anything that star treck have to offer and in the end are probbaly as power full as the Q[/quote] You have no idea, do you? According to Startrek lore, God is a member of the Q. The Q are omnipotent, they have no limits, they can do anything with a thought. . . Plus is a hand grenade and an exploding ship can take out a Halo ring, they have no chance against a single anti-matter bomb, and I don't think the rings work all that well in ity-bity pieces.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Omnicent [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] LiquidNazgul42 None of you seem to say anything about a 1,000-strong Forerunner fleet. A single Forerunner dreadnaught can decimate an entire Covenant Armada with but a scratch. Think of a fleet with 999 more of that...and then some.[/quote] And where is this mythical fleet? Besides, I think this is limited to [i]living[/i] species, not extinct ones. Even so. . . Q. . .[/quote] You don't read the Terminals much do you?
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Omnicent [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Skibur He said Halo vs Star Trek, not UNSC vs Star Trek. UNSC, Covenant, Forerunner... Think of the whole universe.[/quote] Borg /thread.[/quote][url=http://halo.wikia.com/wiki/Precursor]Precursors[/url] /thread [Edited on 05.09.2009 9:55 AM PDT]
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] LiquidNazgul42 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Omnicent [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] LiquidNazgul42 None of you seem to say anything about a 1,000-strong Forerunner fleet. A single Forerunner dreadnaught can decimate an entire Covenant Armada with but a scratch. Think of a fleet with 999 more of that...and then some.[/quote] And where is this mythical fleet? Besides, I think this is limited to [i]living[/i] species, not extinct ones. Even so. . . Q. . .[/quote] You don't read the Terminals much do you?[/quote] Didn't it say something about heavy losses too?
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Omnicent [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] LiquidNazgul42 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Omnicent [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] LiquidNazgul42 None of you seem to say anything about a 1,000-strong Forerunner fleet. A single Forerunner dreadnaught can decimate an entire Covenant Armada with but a scratch. Think of a fleet with 999 more of that...and then some.[/quote] And where is this mythical fleet? Besides, I think this is limited to [i]living[/i] species, not extinct ones. Even so. . . Q. . .[/quote] You don't read the Terminals much do you?[/quote] Didn't it say something about heavy losses too?[/quote] Yes, but that's because Mendicant Bias turned loco, and it's also because the Forerunners had been fighting the Flood for 300 years. Before that, we can readily assume the Forerunners held a huge empire in the galaxy, since the Halos are scattered throughout the galaxy. And personallly, I think Q should be exempt from any Star Trek vs. [Enter title here]. They're just far too powerful and thus presents an unfair situation.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] myusernamesucks [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Omnicent [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Skibur He said Halo vs Star Trek, not UNSC vs Star Trek. UNSC, Covenant, Forerunner... Think of the whole universe.[/quote] Borg /thread.[/quote]Precursers /thread[/quote] The Precursors are theoretical and have never been seen or heard from in-game, the Startrek version of the forerunners have been documented as being trans-galactic and having ships capable of carving up planets for fuel to power their GIANT LAZOR! Plus creating the "Devils Heart," think the power of the Q, but addictive and hand-held.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] LiquidNazgul42 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Omnicent [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] LiquidNazgul42 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Omnicent [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] LiquidNazgul42 None of you seem to say anything about a 1,000-strong Forerunner fleet. A single Forerunner dreadnaught can decimate an entire Covenant Armada with but a scratch. Think of a fleet with 999 more of that...and then some.[/quote] And where is this mythical fleet? Besides, I think this is limited to [i]living[/i] species, not extinct ones. Even so. . . Q. . .[/quote] You don't read the Terminals much do you?[/quote] Didn't it say something about heavy losses too?[/quote] Yes, but that's because Mendicant Bias turned loco, and it's also because the Forerunners had been fighting the Flood for 300 years. Before that, we can readily assume the Forerunners held a huge empire in the galaxy, since the Halos are scattered throughout the galaxy. And personallly, I think Q should be exempt from any Star Trek vs. [Enter title here]. They're just far too powerful and thus presents an unfair situation. [/quote] But you just used a dead fleet. . . Meh, nevermind, the Borg would adapt, assimilate them and use all their power against them, plus their already considerable force. And we all know how easy it is to capture Forrunner fleets.
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Depends. Halo would win any battle on the ground. Space would be more challenging to determine... The Covenant have shields, along with high powered plasma weaponry. I don't know how that compares to Star Trek shielding and weaponry. The UNSC has armor designed to take a beating from energy weapons. The MAC cannon also takes out shields in a single blow. And again, Star Trek has so many ships, though. I would have to say that Star Trek would win if it were all of Trek versus all of Halo.
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[quote]But you just used a dead fleet. . . Meh, nevermind, the Borg would adapt, assimilate them and use all their power against them, plus their already considerable force. And we all know how easy it is to capture Forrunner fleets.[/url] The Borg probably wouldn't be able to adapt to a single Array activation, considering that it only fires once and it's so quick they probably wouldn't be able to react. You might argue that "but they'd destroy the rings!" Well unfortunately the Forerunners wouldn't be stupid. Once they found out that the Borg "adapts" to everything, they'd probably try to lure them into a trap and activate the nearest Halo, diverting their attention. You then might sa--- ... You know what, I really don't think I'm up for a serious debate on this. We can all say "x does y while a does c", but we just really won't ever find out. Technology doesn't always win, and neither do numbers (even if the Covenant had both and decimated the UNSC in their war). We just don't know what either side will do, how the other side will react, and so on. Yeah, it's fun to theorize what they MIGHT do, but the reason why I'm reluctant to debate any further is that there just isn't a definite solution or answer to what either side will do.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Cheeto666 Depends. Halo would win any battle on the ground. Space would be more challenging to determine... The Covenant have shields, along with high powered plasma weaponry. I don't know how that compares to Star Trek shielding and weaponry. The UNSC has armor designed to take a beating from energy weapons. The MAC cannon also takes out shields in a single blow. And again, Star Trek has so many ships, though. I would have to say that Star Trek would win if it were all of Trek versus all of Halo. [/quote] Well, all of Trek vs all of Halo would mean no battle would be won by the Haloverse, I stated earlier that the Klingons would pwn some biatchs on the ground, the Herogen would kick some ass and the Dominion would hand them their asses.
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I sense that Omnicent plans on either winning or dying.
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No matter what you throw at the borg they would just eventually adapt to it and be immune to whatever weaponry you fire at them. So eventually the borg would be impervious to all Halo weaponry and would assimilate the whole halo universe. Basically Star Trek wins.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] LiquidNazgul42 [quote]But you just used a dead fleet. . . Meh, nevermind, the Borg would adapt, assimilate them and use all their power against them, plus their already considerable force. And we all know how easy it is to capture Forrunner fleets.[/url] The Borg probably wouldn't be able to adapt to a single Array activation, considering that it only fires once and it's so quick they probably wouldn't be able to react. You might argue that "but they'd destroy the rings!" Well unfortunately the Forerunners wouldn't be stupid. Once they found out that the Borg "adapts" to everything, they'd probably try to lure them into a trap and activate the nearest Halo, diverting their attention. You then might sa--- ... You know what, I really don't think I'm up for a serious debate on this. We can all say "x does y while a does c", but we just really won't ever find out. Technology doesn't always win, and neither do numbers (even if the Covenant had both and decimated the UNSC in their war). We just don't know what either side will do, how the other side will react, and so on. Yeah, it's fun to theorize what they MIGHT do, but the reason why I'm reluctant to debate any further is that there just isn't a definite solution or answer to what either side will do. [/quote] No, we do know. . . Worf would just order [url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rTAx8r_090o]RAMMING SPEED!!![/url]
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1 archer mistile bang on shields cause emp knock out shields and all controls of craft and surrounding ships then 1 mack cannon round on the deflector plates bang ship is dust
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Son of Valhalla I sense that Omnicent plans on either winning or dying.[/quote] I'm such a Trekkie I'm already joansing and I just finished watching an episode. . . Plus 2 raggedy ass fleets, a few dead guys, a couple of robots and a bad cold can't compete with the dark side. . . I er, ahh. . . I mean Startrek. . .
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] wrentah 1 archer mistile bang on shields cause emp knock out shields and all controls of craft and surrounding ships then 1 mack cannon round on the deflector plates bang ship is dust[/quote] But emp's have no effect on Starships, plus Janeway's mods could hold off the Borg, a single [i]bullet[/i] wouldn't be able to scratch the paint, let alone get through the hull. And not to mention the missile would be swatted long before it got close enough to do anything, even if the UNSC ship [i]survived[/i] long enough to target, ready and fire a missile.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Omnicent [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Son of Valhalla I sense that Omnicent plans on either winning or dying.[/quote] I'm such a Trekkie I'm already joansing and I just finished watching an episode. . . Plus 2 raggedy ass fleets, a few dead guys, a couple of robots and a bad cold can't compete with the dark side. . . I er, ahh. . . I mean Startrek. . .[/quote] I do like Star Trek. Really. The capital of the Federation of Planets is my home city =] But I hate how some (emphasis on SOME) its fans think that NOTHING can stand up to the supposedly impenetrable fortress that is Star Trek. I'm a hardcore fan of Halo, but I know it's not unbeatable.
