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Edited by LiamCDM:
8/28/2015 12:26:45 PM
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Why Exactly Did Bungie "Nerf" The Nightfall?
After reading the Weekly Update at the recommendation of my clan leader, I found information that I find more or less...interesting. Apparently the Nightfall is being "nerfed". How is it being nerfed you may ask? Well the unfavorable consequence of being kicked to orbit after wiping during the Nightfall will soon be removed in the next patch. Now I often albeit, unintentionally come off as sounding to put it lightly: like an [i]arrogant elitist son of a bitch[/i]. Today, I'll try to refrain from sounding like that as I address what I think, is not only a problem, but a major slap in the face to talented players. I know Destiny's endgame content is no where near the difficulty as WOW's Raids and Dungeons. However, they still require a decent team to merit beating the content without significant difficulty. I believe removing the only part about the Nightfall that makes it an event to be taken seriously isn't a good idea and makes Destiny even less skill based than it already is and makes it an even easier game to play which really isn't going to be fun when you're someone like me who's put 1300 hours into Destiny over 5 characters and knows the game inside and out. We like a nice challenge and we demand it from a game like this. I truly don't understand Bungie's reasoning behind this decision and I certainly don't find it a positive one.
If you agree with this then bump it so Bungie can see it and make the correct choices in TTK!
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7 RepliesEdited by Xii Alpha iiXx: 8/29/2015 12:37:05 PMI absolutely loved the Nightfall concept. Who here remembers when you couldn't exactly save progress. If you died you would have to start the level or even the game all over again. Hell, back when I was a little kid I would have to leave a system on, sometimes for days. I would be so worried about the power being knocked out or my careless parents turning the system off. The Nightfall brought that old school gaming philosophy into the "now." Although it wasn't as intense as starting a game over it was fun soloing knowing one slip up would end up in a redo. By changing this you have taken that away from many players. Why are you catering to less skilled players. Or the casual gamer? Yes it does suck for them but when has life been fair or about aiding people to rewards they didn't really earn. This whole "let's make every one feel special" mentality is a horrible sickness. It is sad to see how far it has breached into the minds of people.
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I always thought it was pointless, you still have to start NF over if your team dies. Returning to orbit just delays progress, just adds unnecessary time. Just my opinion.
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1 ReplyI do like it with the 30 second death timer. It helps prepare noobs for raids and it saves the frustration when the boss is a fraction from death and a freak accident wipes out your whole team.
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3 RepliesI didn't have a problem with the changes to the nightfall initially till I realised why they would want to remove the xp bonus ritual. Why would they want to remove the xp bonus? Seemed Innocent enough till I remembered what they were offering in the collectors edition in the taken king. Remember the xp boost bonus items????? So why would they want to remove an xp bonus from a weekly ritual activity? Should be rather clear now. They want to sell us that boost. They almost snuck that one past. Sneaky little bungie...
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1 ReplyBecause people have no skill and don't feel like grinding I guess
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1 ReplyFrom my view, it looks like they made it harder. For one, you don't get kicked to orbit, [i]but[/i] you still have to restart the missions. There aren't any checkpoints. So the only change here is that it saves you the 90 seconds of going back to the mission. Then the revives have 30 seconds cool downs on them, a raid mechanic. This makes Nightfalls harder. The buff is gone so yeah. And to top it all off, we can only do it once per character. Someone point out to me where they "nerf'd" the nightfall.
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3 RepliesBecause they are making the strikes actually have raid-esque mechanics so if you were doing the Confluxes and Oracles and you all died wouldn't you be salty if you had to restart from the beginning every time you wiped.
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They're seemingly removing emphasis from the nightfall, giving the experience bonus out for free and softening it up a bit. Why? Most likely as a compromise for not giving it matchmaking. Give the bonus out for free and reduce the difficulty in order to reduce it's importance before giving in to demands for optional MM. At least that's what I see for the time being.
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They did add a 30 sec timer after death. Seems like the opposite of a nerf. They are also hand picking modifiers so we should probably all just wait and see. Who knows, Maybe everyone will be complaining about how hard they are in a month. This community has to complain about something.....
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Dude, you are the subject in this Skinner Box. Constantly moving the goalpost is what keeps you coming back for more.
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1 ReplyI'm pretty sure that instead of being sent to orbit you have to completely restart. I could be wrong but I think it's just to cut down on loading screens and time. If this is the case I'm all for it. I hate loading
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I think all they should have done was stop it from kicking you to orbit. Should just have no checkpoints, fireteam dies, restarts right at the beginning.
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To attract newer gamers to attempt it
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6 RepliesAgreed. Nightfall modifier should not be removed. That was the one modifier that actually concerned me as I made my way through nightfalls. Actually made it a challenge, especially solo or as a duet. All the other modifiers were merely ancillary.
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3 Repliesso more people could be able to complete it
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2 RepliesI'm at loss as to what Bungie is doing. Some how I missed all those cries to Nerf Nightfall? Along with all the cries to Nerf Ghorn, Black hammer, Ice Breaker. This is what they spend their time on? WOW
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I may be in the minority here, but I love the change, I hated having to reload from orbit. They are making the experience more enjoyable for everyone. It's called quality of life improvements, don't worry I'm pretty sure they still restart the strike after a wipe.
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#BumpedForTruth
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8 RepliesDestiny's becoming a kiddy game more and more now we saw it with the raid nerds and now the nightfalls there's no more challenges anymore. I remember when raids took 2-6 hours to complete with a good fireteam. And now it takes me and my friends around half an hour to complete vog. Bungie is destroying their own game to make it better for the casual players. That's why I stopped playing and switched to neverwinter, because they know what there doing to their own game and we get all 4 dlc's for free on Sept. 8.
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Well the intended consequence should be that you have to start over. Not look at another loading screen. That's probably how it's going to be handled. B
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5 RepliesTake a look at that new Shield Brothers strike. Looks fairly easy, right?! Now imagine that on a nightfall, with nowhere to hide at the end bosses encounter. I see a lot of people getting the orbit boot real easy, and I think that's one of the reasons why they took it out. There got to be only 1% of players that could actually luck up and beat challenging content such as that, and maybe most of Destiny consumers are not hardcore players, I don't know. I think it's okay, and although I solo most of my nightfalls, I WOULD BE PISSED GETTING ALL THE WAY TO THE END OF THAT STRIKE, JUST TO GET THE ORBIT KICK!
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8 RepliesNot really a nerf tbh.
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I don't mind not going back to Orbit, but as long as you have to restart the entire NightFall I'm fine with that.
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6 RepliesThe weekly heroic is harder then the nightfall !
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Not returning to orbit isn't a nerf, it'll still make you restart, just avoids loading screens
