[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Achronos Eh, maybe, maybe not. Again, thinking out loud. It sure would be funny on release day when everybody's bars change and they revert to member because the old way got removed. The Halo 3 forum would freak out.[/quote]But then you wouldn't know who to give leeway to! Still, the majority of Halo 3 Forum-goers are regular members anyway. =S

Don't disrespect the rules. I was a Mythic Member for two weeks then I went berserk on another member, I dropped back down to a member as punishment. DO NOT DISRESPECT THE RULES.

There has always been a sort of "hierarchy" in the Septagon. Those who are included in this group usually don't get banned unless they just blatantly break the rules and don't care about it. Most of these people in this so-called upper class are Mythic members and therefore don't get punishments for a simple spam crime, which they shouldn't However, I do notice that it is always these people tend to derail threads like crazy. Just take a look at any Hot Topic and you'll notice there is a lot of blue bars not contributing to the actual discussion but instead talk about some inside joke that vaguely connects with the topic. After the joke is made, everyone else builds off of it and eventually the topic is lost. This doesn't happen [b]all[/b] the time, but I tend to see three or four of them a week. Perhaps it's just because of the nature of the Septagon? I don't know. If this same kind of situation would happen in the Flood I may have a different opinion. It just irks me when I see a great topic derailed because somebody who has "partial immunity" makes a non-topic remark and everyone builds off of it.

I once tried to save a friend's account from being permanently banned for spam, because his little brother had been on his PC and posted completely stupid things. I was the only person in the thread not to be banned, and Foman even said that my Legendary status saved me. Although, I fell to Heroic. Still, I got it back up. Hooray!

I thought I had a point to make but then lost it altogether. I'll edit this post when I remember. I don't really get mixed up in the magical hierarchy that so many people get lost in. I'd rather we all be the same and hold hands like summercamp.

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Covenant Carbine [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] nubyw00tz Not really. When I was a Legendary Member I was banned for 3 days for 'incorrect forum copping'. :)[/quote] There's a correct way to forum cop?[/quote] Actually, I told a guy to post his Halo 3 Screenshot in the Gallery forum, but that was incorrect information I was giving out. Still, the point is that I was a Legendary Member and I was still banned the same way a normal member would've been.

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Lord Snakie Well... Mythic is a lot more widespread than Recon is. Although I agree- this is a hierarchy situation, although much less desired and much less rare than recon.[/quote]I beg to differ, there are approximately 450 Recon perms being used and I believe there are less than 300 Mythic Members, but percentage-wise you might be correct.

This is how I look at it. A blue bar is the highest TRUST rank. Those members should be trusted due to have the highest TRUST. If a ninja, sees that that person is not TRUSTED enough for a blue bar and screws up, then I could see them lean towards not allowing them to have the highest TRUST rank which sets a role model for the communities.

I personally believe everyone should be treated equal. If a Heroic Member is banned for a certain offense, and a Mythic Member repeats that offense, the Mythic Member should be banned likewise. They (Mythic Members) should not be given a free ride just because they have been here longer. *Was going to add a little extra, but realized that would contradict the first part of my statement. (Not in favor of Mythic Members though =P).

I "copped" once. I only got 10 years instead of life. I kid. No I was in the flood and someone necro-bumped, and I told the OP that Necro Bumping was agaisnt the rules, I then was blacklisted for replying to spam.

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Covenant Carbine [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] nubyw00tz Not really. When I was a Legendary Member I was banned for 3 days for 'incorrect forum copping'. :)[/quote] There's a correct way to forum cop?[/quote]Forum copping isn't as many assume a completely bad thing that involves smart ass comments such as "in b4 the lock wrong forum" it can, if done correctly, be a helpful thing to do. To Forum cop "correctly" is of course a matter of opinion and can be a 'grey' area in terms of what you should and shouldn't do but I'll briefly outline how I see it. Time of day/board activity, question, not quoting and relevance/accuracy are all crucial. If you are unsure the safest bet is always to private message the user rather than replying, often I suggest opting for that approach as it is just as helpful in most cases although there are, naturally, some exceptions. To forum cop "correctly" the user needs to post in a helpful manner explaining where the OP has gone wrong if need be in a polite way. This effectively saves moderators the task of explaining themselves and can be beneficial. The time of day and board activity should also be considered, this is where many trip up, they reply in a hectic, active forum and bump the thread back to the top in an environment where it then accumulates many spam replies, this can be fatal especially if the topic is about something such as recon armour and can get them banned for replying to spam (which is a matter of moderator opinion). The question is also relevant, a frequent question should be ignored or, if replying, the helpful thread should be linked. Comments such as "Use the search feature" are not remotely helpful and are borderline spam. Quoting the post is also something a forum cop should not do in many cases. If, for example, a user posts a magazine scan but the thread is legitimate in every other sense the user should not quote the scan when telling the user to remove the scan from their post. This seems like common sense but the frequency the quoting user is banned because of this is actually fairly high. Finally, this relates to nuby's post, relevance and accuracy are vital. Providing inaccurate information is not helpful such as telling a user a post is in the wrong forum when it isn't or telling them it should be in X forum when it should actually be in Y. Vague information is also not helpful, "I think recon is only obtainable from doing special stuff", it can also be considered spam. Now I see I have began a small essay here which wasn't really needed. I often go off so a bit of self control and I'm leaving this post here. There is a correct way to forum cop however often I suggest not bothering in very active forums such as the Halo 3 forum. I only tend to "forum cop" in less active boards such as the community forum where the thread isn't going to explode with spam and the thread is locked with little hassle and the OP is benefited. Remember that forum copping isn't about recognition, using private messages and being a silent hero is often overlooked but many do it. That is the best forum of forum copping in many cases and you won't have any chance of getting banned because of it.

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] CornetoGospel [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Lord Snakie Then it could possibly turn into a "recon for the forums" situation.[/quote] We already have that...*looks at snakie's title bar*[/quote]Well... Mythic is a lot more widespread than Recon is. Although I agree- this is a hierarchy situation, although much less desired and much less rare than recon. [quote]I do think Mythic members get a slight preferential treatment. Instead of a ban, they get sent to the basement with Duardo and a stick of butter.[/quote]And that's not even punishment!

This may sound weird, but I think it comes down to style. If I've seen a user around plenty of times before and I know what they're like (A friendly person, jokester, etc) then chances are that I won't be surprised at what they post. Each member has a style to their posts because of this. Now, if a user that is usually sooper srs starts spamming/making witty, one-liner replies, I'll see them differently. If they're usually witty and take it too far, etc.

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] bobcast It would be interesting to see how conversations would change if the member titles/bars were removed. I believe that a lot of peoples contributions and thoughts are ignored based on their member title. [/quote] I agree. And as much as I try to stay consciously neutral and unbiased, it has an effect at a subconscious level, if nothing else. For instance, if I didn't know how awesome of a Bungie fan you were, I probably wouldn't be replying. ;)

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] nubyw00tz Not really. When I was a Legendary Member I was banned for 3 days for 'incorrect forum copping'. :)[/quote] There's a correct way to forum cop?

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] bobcast It would be interesting to see how conversations would change if the member titles/bars were removed. I believe that a lot of peoples contributions and thoughts are ignored based on their member title. [/quote] Sorry if this ends up being a double post... Don't worry Bob, I ignore you cause of you, not because of your member title. <3 ~B.B.

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] ImTriForceGuy [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Old Papa Rich [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] YahwehFreak4evr [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Achronos The trust rating already includes elements of game participation. [/quote] Wait, does this mean if I play Halo 3 more that I'll have a higher rank? *readies Halo 3 disk* [/quote]I am surprised by this as well...[/quote] I guess the FAQs need to be updated with this information... DUARDO!!!![/quote]Its been there. It always has been.

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] MikeNeel Take BB for example (no offence guy) but I remember when he posted a "This is my ___ B.Net birthday, cheers for me" here in the septagon. This would normally get locked, and probably a warning, since it went against the "specific user threads" and generally didn't belong here. However, most of the mods actually posted in the thread with congrats and many more posts. I know for a fact if I made the same thread, I'd get it locked, and while I might not get banned, I'd probably get a "This is not your blog" response. [/quote] None taken. You're right. That type of thread is pretty much against the rules. I did try to add some additional discussion points (IIRC) so it wasn't just "hey look at me, I'm B.net 4 years old!!" However, if the mods had locked it and had sent me a warning, I wouldn't have cared. I know it's within their authority to do it, and I knew that there was a chance by me posting that thread that I could be seen as breaking the rules. That particular thread ran it's course in a short time and I'm pretty sure was locked the next day. However (again IIRC) there was a pretty decent discussion going on about how some members have seen B.net change over their time and some see it staying the same over the same amount of time. So if a rule-breaking thread contributed what I would consider a decent conversation on the forums, is it really that bad? Apparently a good amount of people found the discussion well and good enough to contribute to it up until the point it got locked. I've written a lot of threads here on B.net that have got locked rather quickly (I'm looking at you Saffron) but it hasn't bothered me because the vast majority of the times those threads were in that "gray" area where it's a judgment call for the mods. Sometimes I'd rather them be locked instead of them being diluted by people that don't really understand what I was trying to say. That's fine. I posted; got my point across; and if there's really no discussion left on it, then by all means lock it regardless of whether or not I'm the OP. As has been said countless times, "SPAM is in the eye of beholder" on forums. What some might find mindless-crap (Like Anto's hard-on for the "I like pie" thread) to others are fun discussions. Unlike Achronos, I don't see the Internetz as [i]serious business[/i] ~B.B.

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Old Papa Rich [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] YahwehFreak4evr [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Achronos The trust rating already includes elements of game participation. [/quote] Wait, does this mean if I play Halo 3 more that I'll have a higher rank? *readies Halo 3 disk* [/quote]I am surprised by this as well...[/quote] I guess the FAQs need to be updated with this information... DUARDO!!!!

Not really. When I was a Legendary Member I was banned for 3 days for 'incorrect forum copping'. :)

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] hitman23db it's all about who you know lol[/quote]That can help. Just like a mythic status because they're well trusted by the mods. And why shouldn't they be. Old members should know the rules by heart from all the time on this site.

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] The Slayer I only ban blue bars. I'm coming for you next, Skib.[/quote] you banned me for 13 days. Anyway, I suggest that you respect the moderators. [Edited on 04.02.2009 12:58 PM PDT]

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] bobcast I believe that a lot of peoples contributions and thoughts are ignored based on their member title.[/quote]Honestly in a way being plain "Member" is my favourite, although Mythic was pretty hawt. The people who respond to you are generally the ones who are likely to actually read what you have to say rather than suck up to a coloured bar. I get by and so do you (I can guarantee that by the time I finish this post another person would have quoted you aside from me). Sure some things get ignored and one would prefer a system fostering equality but in a way having a lower title filters out the suck-ups. [Edited on 04.02.2009 12:50 PM PDT]