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originally posted in: Lag switches everywhere
6/5/2015 5:11:19 PM
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I can guarantee you that Bungie actively investigates network manipulation and other forms of cheating. We will continue to monitor game performance for people abusing the system and enforce our policies. As mentioned in the past two Weekly Updates, we've already dealt with a number of players who were confirmed to be cheating in one form or another. Rest assured that we will continue to do so. When you believe someone is cheating the best thing you can do is use the in-game Report Player function: https://www.bungie.net/en/Help/Article/12960
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  • Edited by GIRZIMDIB: 7/31/2015 12:45:57 PM
    There seems to be a growing consensus of players wanting a minimum required ping in order to play pvp, and I agree wholeheartedly that anyone without the bandwidth to support this game with minimal latency shouldn't be allowed to connect. Region locking, dedicated servers, and the like, would greatly be appreciated, lord knows you have the money. The upwards of $100 players have spent on this game and the expansions across all 4 consoles and you can't provide a stable virtually latency free player experience kind of makes me mad. especially since you expect people to shell out more $ for TTK. Seems every match I get thrown into is full of people in other countries and all that does is cause latency issues. Especially in trials, which is why I refuse to play trials beings how all it is, is incentivised cheating. The very least you can do is allow the player to only play people in their own country, or even better, their own state, especially during something like trials where even the most minute latency is a problem. Considering that you want trials to be competitive and only "the best of the best" will be rewarded . All I have left to say is your network infrastructure just wasn't well thought out, and you owe your fans better then that. I just think your network should be a higher priority then "weapon balancing" ( we all know no one uses anything but thorn, so balancing isn't an issue when your thorn does the same amount of damage as the enemy's thorn.)

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  • thank you so much, that will help my clan to keep playing that great game !

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  • Not one to normally complain but your game is almost unplayable. I own it on both xbox and playstation they are equally bad. Blatant lag switching and players with very poor connection though out. Almost one year in and weapons are still not balanced and I have no hope for the new update truly fix the problems. In my line of work I appreciate when my customers give me a chance to fix a problem but if the problem continues I don't keep those customers for long

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  • -blam!- your guarantee. Your word isn't worth shit. The number of people you report catching is a minuscule fraction of the people cheating. And -blam!- your in game reporting tool. There is no visibility into what you do with the reports. Rest assured my ass. You're all talk and NO GAME.

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  • What about the MTU cheaters ?

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  • What ibwould like to know is what your doing to prevent lag switching, not just what your doing to punish those that use it

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  • Edited by OPC P1nc: 7/30/2015 12:10:06 PM
    ADRESS THE MTU LAG !!!!!!!!!!!! People do it in their ROUTERS!!!!!!!!!!!! They set MTU in router to 800-1000 and fook up this game ! Also I read many noobs that have satelite internet.... or worse... they say themselves they have ping 900 MS ... how the fook do you allow these people to play PVP ?????????????????????? That is almost 1 full second of lag... unaccatable!!!!!!!!!!!!! I guess that is the reason xbox doesnt show PING ... you would know how much you get screwed ! And when do we finally get DEDICATED SERVERS BUNGIE????????????????? like you PROMISSED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! When will you have the common sense to place HOSTING servers in ALL CONTINENTS and not just USA???????????? WHEN BUNGIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ITS ONE YEAR NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! NOTHING CHANGED... expect of the WORSE !!!!!!!!!!!! Lag problems keep growing larger... why coz people show others how to cheat... and bungie doenst take action... No words are NOT actions !!!!!!!!!!!!! Words are hollow !!!!!!!!!!!! I like to see ACTION ! So please show me WHAT you are doing... coz atm it seems your action is talking about it .... and that SUX ---------------- EDIT : I truly hope there will finally be some ACTION now... Im about to give up on MP in this game... its to frustrating for people trying to win HONEST ... I will never CHEAT ... its against my principles... but damn Im tired of shooting a full clip at people seeing them almost die and at the last moment pull their lag switch But WORST is that USA ALWAYS gets host advantage in TOO ... ALWAYS!!!!!!!!!!! That is the biggest BS ever !

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  • I know for a fact that satellite internet won't even connect to the Destiny servers. I have one we use in our rec house and it won't connect.

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  • Just spoke to a guy on the forum who is playing PVP with ping 900 MS

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  • Edited by SLAG33TE: 7/30/2015 11:52:10 AM
    sorry bungie you are talking verbal diarrhea, i came of for 3-4 weeks,, came back on today to try IRON BANNER, and guess what,, lag switching heaven,, and guess what again,, reported all even people on my team whether i win or not,, and guess what, still there in the next match,, so i think your guarantee and words are hollow like a black hole.. as you seem so keen on promoting and nerfing i have a great idea for a new name for your TTK,, why not call call it LSP (lag switchers paradise) RIP destiny and a big finger to your pointless posts bungie.

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  • Well honestly it takes time to investigate... but mostly I agree... but expecting them to get banned from next match is a bit unrealistic... Bungie has to investigate connection behaviour... otherwise it would be to easy to ban opponents you dont like or whatever... But lets... unfortunatly TOO and IRON banner are lag paradise... I agree Search MTU router cheat destiny..... you will be SHOCKED !

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  • damn bro,, whats next, just checked it out,, and worse of all is people are explaining to all how to do. honestly destiny is broke now,, they had 1 year and 1 year to develop servers and all. no they are just interested in making money and promoting TTK.. but nice reply and explanation bro appreciate.

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  • thnx

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  • Can you do more cause it's not fair for normal player. I still see more and more player that seem to be cheating their connection in PVP mode. I am here since day 1 almost and I never complain about anything . I like this game. Hope you guys can understand us, the normal gamer.

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  • This is so dumb why even release iron banner if the only way to win is by having a horrid connection

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  • I hope so. I have taken about 50 videos and screenshot of people that are flat out cheating. I even reported them. I will be looking to see if i see their names . I mean it hasnt been 2 days . For example My con was great this warlock comes up to me i start firing away. He backs up . Hes backing the whole time im unloading 3 clips from my suros into his head and he never dies he finally stops and elbows me in the face and i die. You cant tell me he wasnt cheating. Yes i reported him. He actually did more stuff than that during that same match. The match after that. He died really easy

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  • I agree with the many replies here it is beyond control this game is lost to lag at the moment and it's really lame for those of us that wish to have fun and just want a good sporting match I don't care if I lose but the matches can barely function from the amount of lag anymore. [b]True fans are paying the price for your inaction, bungie[/b]

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  • https://twitter.com/Bungie/status/626563494545072128

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  • Edited by PawPawSkiwee: 7/31/2015 3:24:53 AM
    Again, no details and only a fraction of the cheaters. Your word isn't worth shit. Now get busy fixing the holes in your code instead of trying to convince us of something that you have no statistics to back up.

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  • Edited by geordie007: 7/30/2015 5:04:52 PM
    Change your damn match making. If someone is in a game with 200 ping, bloody kick them. Have local match making ONLY. If you wanna play PVP with a guy in Australia...wait 10 minutes for a game and put them in a crap lobby of laggers. Dont ruin it for the good majority otherwise people will leave, and that hurts your pockers. Does not matter how good the game is in theory if it plays like SHIT> Just look at the forums, your iron banner is a laughing stock, lag banner, iron lag, lags of osiris. Have you guys no pride ? I am still hoping one day I can find a multiplayer shooter that does not lag. Too much skill match making crap with guys that are 300 ping away...its just brainless idiocy. Well, heres hoping that BO3 delivers...I doubt it, it will be the same shit as always...

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  • I understand that you're doing what you can, and we all really appreciate it, but don't you think this is an unstoppable war without making the choice for dedicated servers? I can't help but wonder what the decision makers were thinking here... Other than holding back to gauge the health of the franchise.

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  • My flawless in trials has been ruined as I got to 8 wins 3 times because of lagswitchers. And you do nothing about that so this is bullshit.

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  • https://twitter.com/Bungie/status/626563494545072128

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  • You must be a bot because all you do is copy and paste. Takes no intelligence to do that. How about answering the concerns and questions.

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  • this is rubbish, i have reported loads of cheats and DDOSers, who i see regularly back on the game week in week out, its why i gave up with destiny.

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