What if there was a third(ish) mode? marrying PVP and PVE. MMO's oft have something like this, usually between factions, guilds, or whatnot. Where players could attack/ambush/heckle other players during patrol? Basically, there'd be a check box before you go into patrol (or patrol gains a difficulty list, except the second difficulty just makes players able to attack players). Which puts you into another set of instances of other players who made the same decision. (this way players who don't want to put up with other people don't have to deal with it). Unless you are on a Fireteam, you can't see enemy players tags on screen, like crucible. Your Fireteam acts as your team. Maybe make some fun additions where if you kill a player wearing an opposing faction class item you gain 1 rep per kill, or that completing patrol missions while not being killed grants an extra 2 rep or something. Uses the Iron banner rules for damage against other players. Perhaps have it's own set of unique bounties. Like "Kill x Rogue Guardians" Maybe even rack up you own unique "Rep", making yourself a VIP Guardian that others get bonuses/rewards for killing you, and you gain bonus rewards for racking up such a "rep" in the first place. For bonus points, Changes to Public events. So something like Defend the Warsat, becomes king of the hill, winner gets an increased reward from Normal... and stuff like that. Mostly for stupid fun and some obvious changes (like spawns) would definitely need to be seen too. I'd expect an ultimate level of trolling. But I imagine this could breath some life into destiny, maybe even have some dedicated events for such an mode (Like Clan Wars). [b]Now, not saying has to be be exactly this, [/b]but something along these lines would at least add something to Destiny that could be substantial, with relatively low effort from Bungie as it be mostly using a a whole lot of pre-existing assets to give us something new to do, or at least do something we've already been doing with a bit more of an edge and excitement to it. Whatcha guys think?