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9/27/2012 3:00:34 AM
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What's wrong with promiscuity?
If a man or woman lives a promiscuous lifestyle, what's wrong with it?If they are safe about it, what's wrong with it?
If they don't judge those who are more conservative with their lives, why should they be judged?
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] HALO12325 What's wrong with fapping to nude babies? [/quote]Nothing?
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STDs. That's it.
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AIDS.
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It's a matter of preference, really. Personally, all I need to "get busy" is a confirmation that I'm dating the person.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] random no337 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] HALO12325 Uhh...I don't care what people think of my traditionalism. What makes you think different? You are free to hate it.[/quote]Yes, but you're deluded if you think people are going to take you seriously if you can't think of any good reasons to have the position you hold. [quote]@random, nah mate, I read that. You said media influences etc etc. Did we not have these things before?[/quote]Not nearly to the degree that we have them now. Increased time devoted to 'news' requires an increased amount of content to give the illusion of good journalism taking place. Stories of raep, murder and fraud are dime-a-dozen and fill up this content gap very easily. In the past there was a much smaller amount of time devoted to the news, none of this 24 hour stuff, and so only the most important stories were reported (hint: crime didn't get the airtime it does now).[/quote] Hmm interesting. I'm gonna bow out, nice chatting with y'all.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] HALO12325 Degeneration my friend.[/quote]Or we're progressing away from outdated ideologies like marriage. It's not really human nature to stay with one person your whole life. That's why we have such high divorce rates. Hopefully one day we will get rid of marriage all together and it could die along with other concepts such as religion, discrimination, etc.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] HALO12325 Uhh...I don't care what people think of my traditionalism. What makes you think different? You are free to hate it.[/quote]Yes, but you're deluded if you think people are going to take you seriously if you can't think of any good reasons to have the position you hold. [quote]@random, nah mate, I read that. You said media influences etc etc. Did we not have these things before?[/quote]Not nearly to the degree that we have them now. Increased time devoted to 'news' requires an increased amount of content to give the illusion of good journalism taking place. Stories of raep, murder and fraud are dime-a-dozen and fill up this content gap very easily. In the past there was a much smaller amount of time devoted to the news, none of this 24 hour stuff, and so only the most important stories were reported (hint: crime didn't get the airtime it does now). [Edited on 09.26.2012 8:20 PM PDT]
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] MyNameIsCharlie I AM A HISTORY MAJOR.[/quote] That explains why you're on bnet rather than making money.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] coolmike699 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] HALO12325 Degeneration my friend. People can do what they like, but your logic could be used for anything really. What's wrong with fapping to nude babies? I mean, no one gets hurt. What's wrong with considering black people subhuman, I mean, as long as they don't judge you, why should you judge them? [/quote] Your logic could be used for anything, really. I mean, why think about others' promiscuity when the world could end tomorrow? Why care about old people when we could take everyone's logic to ridiculous extremes? [quote]I'm not saying they're equivalent by any means, but if there are no moral standards by which a society adheres to and does not change, what I listed could and would be considered totally ok. [/quote] Who's talking about a society with no moral standards? We're talking about a society with moral standards that are sometimes pointless and criticize aspects of people's lives that aren't important. [quote] It is quite obvious Western society's moral standards have changed into something else, to which I am happy when I see traditionalists. [/quote] If you don't judge people for having different morals than yourself, it's reasonable to expect them not to judge your traditionalism. [/quote] Uhh...I don't care what people think of my traditionalism. What makes you think different? You are free to hate it. @random, nah mate, I read that. You said media influences etc etc. Did we not have these things before? I know you're talking about first world. I guess I just put that in anyway, my mistake. [Edited on 09.26.2012 8:17 PM PDT]
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] HALO12325 3. People FEEL less safe in their own communities compared to 50 years ago. We're talking Western civilizations, not poor 3rd world countries. People felt safer in the 50's than now (again, this doesn't represent everyone).[/quote]I addressed why this is happening in my post, and mentioned that I was talking about developed countries as [i]the third and fourth words in the response[/i]. Something's telling me you didn't read it properly.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] HALO12325 Degeneration my friend. People can do what they like, but your logic could be used for anything really. What's wrong with fapping to nude babies? I mean, no one gets hurt. What's wrong with considering black people subhuman, I mean, as long as they don't judge you, why should you judge them? [/quote] Your logic could be used for anything, really. I mean, why think about others' promiscuity when the world could end tomorrow? Why care about old people when we could take everyone's logic to ridiculous extremes? [quote]I'm not saying they're equivalent by any means, but if there are no moral standards by which a society adheres to and does not change, what I listed could and would be considered totally ok. [/quote] Who's talking about a society with no moral standards? We're talking about a society with moral standards that are sometimes pointless and criticize aspects of people's lives that aren't important. [quote] It is quite obvious Western society's moral standards have changed into something else, to which I am happy when I see traditionalists. [/quote] If you don't judge people for having different morals than yourself, it's reasonable to expect them not to judge your traditionalism.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Twiggyy [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] HALO12325 @Twiggy, it is something quite clear to see, like water and sand. [/quote] To recap: I ask you where you get these notions on women and relationships from. In return, you tell me to look at a beach for the answers. Alrighty....[/quote] Oh I thought you meant the degeneration. What about women and relationships?
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] HALO12325 @Twiggy, it is something quite clear to see, like water and sand. [/quote] To recap: I ask you where you get these notions on women and relationships from. In return, you tell me to look at a beach for the answers. Alrighty....
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] random no337 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] HALO12325 Our society has become a lot less family oriented less safe. Look how common divorce is. There was VERY little family splitting and single families in the past.[/quote]Yeah, what happened to single women being almost helpless in society, the cultural taboo about people ceasing to get along in a house, the woman being a man's property etc? Those were the days. [quote]Older people are considered useless now far more than before, whereas before they were considered wise sages.[/quote] I haven't seen anything to indicate this, though due to the rate of progress in the last century and a half they may be more prone to losing touch with current life.[quote]Teen pregnancy is more of an issue.[/quote]This is just untrue.[quote] People feel less safe now than before in their own communities than in the past. I can go on and on.[/quote]People in developed nations live in the safest, healthiest and wealthiest (compared over decade-like timescales, obviously very recently things have turned a little sour) times [i]ever[/i], and that is a [i]fact[/i]. The 24-hour news cycle makes it seem like the world is going to hell but there are a lot less reasons to be scared these days than previously.[/quote] 1. That's wrong obviously. There have been positive transformations, and that's one of them. 2. Old people just seem a lot more like a "strain to the system" than the past, and kids seem a lot less disciplined and respectful 3. People FEEL less safe in their own communities compared to 50 years ago. We're talking Western civilizations, not poor 3rd world countries. People felt safer in the 50's than now (again, this doesn't represent everyone). @Twiggy, it is something quite clear to see, like water and sand. [Edited on 09.26.2012 7:57 PM PDT]
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] MyNameIsCharlie [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] NinjaLord77 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] MyNameIsCharlie [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] NinjaLord77 My friend is in a relationship like that. Her husband doesn't mind who she sleeps with as long as they tell each other. She only sleeps with women though.[/quote]My friend from high school was in a relationship just like that with his first wife.[/quote] She said that she tried sleeping with other men but she kept thinking about her husband so she said no.[/quote]Didn't end so well for my friend. She met someone else. She and her wife had a domestic partnership for a few years now.[/quote] She is 10 years older. Their relationship is pretty solid. Sharing my wife is not something that I would do but if others like to do that then kudos to them.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] HALO12325 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Twiggyy [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] HALO12325 Degeneration my friend. People can do what they like, but your logic could be used for anything really. What's wrong with fapping to nude babies? I mean, no one gets hurt. What's wrong with considering black people subhuman, I mean, as long as they don't judge you, why should you judge them? I'm not saying they're equivalent by any means, but if there are no moral standards by which a society adheres to and does not change, what I listed could and would be considered totally ok. It is quite obvious Western society's moral standards have changed into something else, to which I am happy when I see traditionalists. [/quote] I see your point, but with people being promiscuous there's consent. The whole slippery slope thought process doesn't work here.[/quote] I'm not saying we'll start doing animals or something. I'm saying it's part of the package of degeneration. People are free to do what they like, but it only causes problems such as "Man, her -blam!- was much better." or "Wait, who's Klara? That -blam!-." I'm not saying the state needs to intervene, but I definitely feel society has degenerated. That's my feel. [/quote] Not being a dick, but where are you getting this from? Is this personal observation? Personally, anyone who I considered promiscuous had the same amount of chivalry as you and I. The people I considered promiscuous were nice and never held grudges or talked badly about their partners (e.g. No: Klara that -blam!-).
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] NinjaLord77 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] MyNameIsCharlie [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] NinjaLord77 My friend is in a relationship like that. Her husband doesn't mind who she sleeps with as long as they tell each other. She only sleeps with women though.[/quote]My friend from high school was in a relationship just like that with his first wife.[/quote] She said that she tried sleeping with other men but she kept thinking about her husband so she said no.[/quote]Didn't end so well for my friend. She met someone else. She and her wife had a domestic partnership for a few years now. [Edited on 09.26.2012 7:46 PM PDT]
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] HALO12325 Our society has become a lot less family oriented less safe. Look how common divorce is. There was VERY little family splitting and single families in the past.[/quote]Yeah, what happened to single women being almost helpless in society, the cultural taboo about people ceasing to get along in a house, the woman being a man's property etc? Those were the days. [quote]Older people are considered useless now far more than before, whereas before they were considered wise sages.[/quote] I haven't seen anything to indicate this, though due to the rate of progress in the last century and a half they may be more prone to losing touch with current life.[quote]Teen pregnancy is more of an issue.[/quote]This is just untrue.[quote] People feel less safe now than before in their own communities than in the past. I can go on and on.[/quote]People in developed nations live in the safest, healthiest and wealthiest (compared over decade-like timescales, obviously very recently things have turned a little sour) times [i]ever[/i], and that is a [i]fact[/i]. The 24-hour news cycle makes it seem like the world is going to hell but there are a lot less reasons to be scared these days than previously.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] MyNameIsCharlie [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] NinjaLord77 My friend is in a relationship like that. Her husband doesn't mind who she sleeps with as long as they tell each other. She only sleeps with women though.[/quote]My friend from high school was in a relationship just like that with his first wife.[/quote] She said that she tried sleeping with other men but she kept thinking about her husband so she said no.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] NinjaLord77 My friend is in a relationship like that. Her husband doesn't mind who she sleeps with as long as they tell each other. She only sleeps with women though.[/quote]My friend from high school was in a relationship just like that with his first wife.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Ambrosius Nothing, so long as no one starts having sex in the middle of McDonald's.[/quote] Some people have done it in the drive thru.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Twiggyy [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] HALO12325 Degeneration my friend. People can do what they like, but your logic could be used for anything really. What's wrong with fapping to nude babies? I mean, no one gets hurt. What's wrong with considering black people subhuman, I mean, as long as they don't judge you, why should you judge them? I'm not saying they're equivalent by any means, but if there are no moral standards by which a society adheres to and does not change, what I listed could and would be considered totally ok. It is quite obvious Western society's moral standards have changed into something else, to which I am happy when I see traditionalists. [/quote] I see your point, but with people being promiscuous there's consent. The whole slippery slope thought process doesn't work here.[/quote] I'm not saying we'll start doing animals or something. I'm saying it's part of the package of degeneration. People are free to do what they like, but it only causes problems such as "Man, her -blam!- was much better." or "Wait, who's Klara? That -blam!-." I'm not saying the state needs to intervene, but I definitely feel society has degenerated. That's my feel.
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Nothing, so long as no one starts having sex in the middle of McDonald's.
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My friend is in a relationship like that. Her husband doesn't mind who she sleeps with as long as they tell each other. She only sleeps with women though.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] MyNameIsCharlie [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] oaklandp8ntbalr Well, allow me to go on. Are there certain risks with being promiscuous? Sure. Diseases and pregnancy come to mind.[/quote] As long as they are safe and responsible about it, then no problems?[/quote] Their life, not mine. I'm still going to judge others based upon my own moral code. (Just like every other human being on the planet.)
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] HALO12325 Teen pregnancy is more of an issue.[/quote] Also, thanks to appropriate s3x ed, teenage pregnancy rates are at its lowest in over 20 years.
