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Edited by UberChief:
12/18/2014 4:33:39 PM
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why snitch the cheesers
Why ppl. Fellow guardians, im asking you, please stop this.
The reason im saying this, and for me this is important, stop doing this. Cheesers want to cheese because they are bad at the game.
Look at VoG. Ppl started cheesing the templar by pushing him off, bungie patched it and now the whole templar fight is broken. But most of all, if it does work like it should do, the cheesers cant beat him because they suck at the game.
Same with atheon. They only know one way and thats the weak, coward way. So just let them. We know who the real players are.
Im asking all guardians to stop snitching because when bungie starts sending out hot fixes for the raid, it will result in more problems. They fix one thing and 2 more take its place.
I go for the legit way of kicking crota's @ss. Same with the bridge. Yes it takes longer then 10 minutes to beat the raid now but THATS HOW IT SHOULD BE.
ITS SOMETHING YOU AND YOUR TEAM SHOULD BE PROUD OF COMPLETING! Not a quick thing like a daily mission or a weekly.
EDIT 1: because alot of ppl think it, let me make this clear. I DONT want this cheesing in the game. But because it is, im asking bungie not to fix it. VoG has more problems now then before they started "fixing" those cheesings. All i want is for them to take there time and fix this without creating more problems.
Even tho it is in the game, i DONT use them. I play like you should! I dont take the short corner to finish in 10 minutes.
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2 RepliesSnitches get stitches, or end up in ditches!!
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Edited by Uriyaal: 12/20/2014 5:44:05 AMYou know if you kids would just stop posting every -blam!-ing thing on twitter, facebook, and youtube they probably wouldnt have found out. there complete inability to just be quiet about anything..... also im not fully against "cheesing" finding cover is part of any game IE the archon priests cheese spot, I think that was really stupid of them to "fix" same for the loot cave and a few other things. In my opinion they need to focus more on fixing actual technical issuses, VoG's still teleporting 2 or sometimes 4 people and theres still people getting glitched in a portal, But we really need to to fix "cheeseing" its no wonder so many people are not playing anymore. i check in once in a while my self, most of my friends have just stopped.
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If people had beaten crota, or any boss, then at least you know what to do, any one who cheeses without actually killing him is just pure bad
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IMO, if you figure out a "cheese", I think its showing you figured out how to beat the lame programming. more power to you.
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What if the raid is perfect and you're supposed go cheese it and you're doing it wrong ?
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6 RepliesEdited by Bubonicsac: 12/18/2014 8:35:58 PMTo those who cheese before at least attempting to beat the raid legit are missing out on one of the exciting experiences in the game. After completing it once, cheese all you want, but complete it the normal way first. Think of it like Math in school. Your teacher shows you the long way to do the math problem, but there is always a quicker and easier way, but you must learn how to do the long way first. Otherwise, when you are asked to show your work the long way, you will be lost and exposed. This is why when Bungie fixes the issues, everyone complains about the raids being broken and glitched. Sometimes it glitches out, but not ALL the time like most cheesers claim.
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3 Replies#bungie stop letting scubs cheese their way if you can't earn it go to halo they'll give it free there
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This notion that cheesers are bad is stupid. Every type of player cheeses. Really good players cheese too. cheesing does not equal bad player. And wtf does it matter anyways? Everything you get in this game will be obsolete in a few months any fkn way. Whats worse than cheesers are crybabys who want patches for cheeses and nerfs for weapons and abilitys. It seems like everyone has forgotten how buggy atheon was after cheese patches. Now crota is glitched out too. Fkn crybabys, thanks alot.
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2 RepliesI've done all parts legit and cheated and the cheating way feels so cheap i mean its not even difficult at all, hardest bit is selecting the raid from orbit...
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Calculators should be patched. Now everyone cheeses math because all they have to do is enter some numbers on a pad and the answer is provided for them. Real people do long division and show their work. Seriously though. I like beating Crota legit cause it's fun. I skip Deathsinger because there is no reward. I do whatever group wants for bridge because I just want to get that loot. I solo first area to make sure I get something if I'm pressed for raiding time. Play how you want. My actually doing Crota legit does not affect anyone anymore than those that cheese it. I have a wireless connection and don't feel like running back and forth to pull a cord, so I won't cheese Crota myself.
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2 RepliesHonestly VoG whatever cheese it. It was so buggy you could 1 shot atheon or it could take hours cause of glitches. Crota though doesn't seem buggy at all cept a sword vanishing after pick up once in a blue moon, and of course the permakneel glitch. These should be fixed. Just put your time in and learn the fight it isn't that bad.
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You're wrong mate, cheesers aren't all bad at the game, this i the problem. Good players have started to cheese in order to keep up with the original cheesers. They not bad players cheesers are just lazy people. I about to give up on this game purely because of the cheesers and glitches, it's not a challenge that way.
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1 ReplyI'm not bad at pve I solo every nightfall lol if that's bad then I guess I'm bad. But I don't feel like wasting time when I can just exploit it Templar legit 20 minutes<cheesing 2 minutes I will cheese till it's patched (:
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There will always be snitches. Its built into some people's personality. Cant be helped. "Snitches get stiches" has been a saying for a long time. Only problem now is you cant find these pricks to deal out the lesson.
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U guys remember game genies? (I think that's what their called) did u guys cry when people used those too? Lol
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VOG was broken and is still broken. Bungie can't get off their lazy ass to fix it properly, there wouldn't be any need to 'cheese' if the raid wasn't so buggy.
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I beat both Templar and artheon many times without cheesing. It just saved me time to get back to doing bounties and leveling my guns
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15 RepliesEdited by Tekn0z: 12/18/2014 12:03:08 PMYou do realize that the Templar can still be cheesed ? Now everyone just stays on top and snipes oracles and templar while one guy goes down handles relic and take down shields of Templar. Pretty sure bungie never intended it to be played this way.
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2nd day the dlc raid came out our team blew through the raid with no wipes until witches... after we beat them no reward... Da fuq. Well crota was simple after 2 hours of trial and error. Fix the crota cheese all you want... we down him in 7 minutes... no need to cheese him unless you suck. I say at least give out shards and energy on the witches.
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I don't mind Boss Cheeses, so long as they don't break or ruin the game. Yeah, I'll admit to cheesing the hell outta the Templar, but the first few times my Raid Group started gunning after the no teleport chest, we did it legit. And it ate us alive the first few times, we got our strategy down, figured out what we had to do, and bam, there's a fancy new chest! Now that Bungie has patched the Templar fight...... well, look at the bugs galore! Oracles not spawning and causing a wipe. Oracles not sounding, causing a hunt for them and a near wipe. Templar's shield NOT dropping when hit with the Relic's Super, resulting in an enraged Templar, wipe. Rubberbanding Templar and Minotaurs, lag issue, I know but it's become more common since the patch. And don't even get me started on Atheon... that was buggy from launch, and the Patch makes it damn near unplayable at times.
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I'll cheese if I can to get loot and move on.
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1 ReplyNot called sucking it's called were to lazy to put up with all the bullshit of the game .. What's the point of actually killing the Templar and getting shit loot .. And or knocking him off and getting shit loot
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The term cheese is awful... It's a glitch which makes them "glitchers" or cheaters
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2 Replies[url=http://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/85568003/0/0]Updated Guide on Completing All Heroic Activities[/url] Instead of snitching, why don't you show them my guide?
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Their is a way to cheese crota?
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I don't think there are really a lot of people "snitching" on the cheesers - I think the cheesers are shooting themselves in the foot more often than not. Before the expansion, I will admit: I was leeching hard oracle cps so that I could get hard rolls on my 3 characters. And My group would cheese the templar - not because we couldn't beat him normally, but because we had better things to do with our time than chase his ass all over the platform. It was simple: shoot oracles, cheese templar, 3 chests - bing bang boom you are done. Easy enough. Then DeeJ did his "Hey I just did the Templar on Hard with a random team" post, and you had other cheesers asking DeeJ, in detail, if he pushed the templar or did it legit. I mean, seriously guy? Really? A week later, templar is fixed. Could it have been a coincidence? did Bungie know about the cheese beforehand? Sure, chances are they knew. But what moron posts cheese secrets to a Bungie employee?
