my raid normally ends up like this if i cant run it with the normal people I run with. [b][u]Try 1 to 2[/u][/b] "okay....so who knows how to use the shield?" [i][silence][/i] "Okay, i will go into the time portal and will use the shield then it seems...... whose coming with me...." [i][silence][/i] "okay 'player A 'you have maxed epilogue/revenge/corrective you come with me to kill oracles. 'player B' you are high level you help me kill the adds save rockets for venus/right/past teleport praetorian" come out of the portal, supplicants everywhere.... wipe. ....after explaining fully about having one guy on top of each gate way and a runner to hop between the pillar to activate the portal, and the fact it pops up on the minimap which side we are on to that player, we go again. (I also ask one guy to finish the supplicants before killing the boss, normally who-ever is hunter with golden gun. works well) [b][u]Try 3 to 4[/u][/b] ....less dying to supplicants, not enough damage on the boss, so boss enrages before we finish him ...Ask If i can give the shield to another player.... finally get one of the outside guys to take the shield. I remain outside, [b][u]Try 5 to 6[/u][/b] my fate-bringer./highlord fixer two shots the supplicants in the crit spot, i kill most of them before they even get up the steps the guys wipe inside ...we try again with both oracle killer and add killer firing a rocket/throwing a grenade before the shield bearer goes to ground slam the adds [b][u]Try 7 [/u][/b] the supplicants drop like flies, the guys come out ...vengence mode active. fire both rockets(3 if using raid launcher), throw grenade (both if warlock) switch to ice breaker, fire all shots most hitting crit. switch to pistol if time to get some more shots in. reload rockets before supplicants spawn. repeat 2 more times....boss = dead gets chatterwhite and shards, every other member of the team gets guns/armour. particularly the useless ones. *sulks*