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Edited by Superiority: 10/29/2014 4:21:42 PM
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Deej: The truth, critical thinking, and final argument.

I have watched this video in its entirety. I realize it is long, but unlike pro Destiny/Activision rhetoric, the truth is a little more complex, and you not taking the time to understand what is going on is what they are counting on. What we have here is the ultimate anti-fanboi argument. Contained in this video is every thing we critical thinkers have been trying to express, only to be freight trained by the deluded masses. The masses: those of us who have successfully been indoctrinated by the [b]Lord of Profiteering[/b]: Activision. Why do people persist in defending what has taken place here? It could simply be lack of intelligence or the ability to critically think, but more likely it is pride: The fanboi ego cannot admit to the truths in this video, it has gone too far for him, in his mind there is no way back. Humility is not a word in his vernacular. In a world where the rich get richer and the poor get poorer, we are brainwashed via corporately owned news outlets (see: Fox News, any Murdoch newspaper) to blame each other for the situation instead of looking at those in power, those with the wealth controlling every thing. Profit is increasingly becoming a dirty word. Or at least it should be. To all the nay sayers, i give you this: You have been conditioned to disagree with the rhetoric you see here. They have achieved this because they are smarter than you. Swallow your pride and open your mind. It is time to become a critical thinker, not just a consumer, with 2D personality. For a better understanding of how corporations have become so powerful Government cannot control them, and how they are shafting us in every market we participate in, i recommend a Youtube channel called "The Trews" by a critical thinker called Russel Brand (previously a comedian). Profit has now fully infected the games market, that is why $500 million buys us a gutted husk of a game such as Destiny, Watchdogs, Titanfall and others. To Deej i say (as he is apparently reading all this): please let your bosses know that we [i]know[/i] what occurred here. [b]EDIT 1:[/b] To those saying i jumped on some sort of bandwagon with this video, here i link my previous thread, some weeks old, in which i make a weak effort in tackling this subject: http://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/71096924/0/0 [b]EDIT 2:[/b] It's a tough challenge, trying to protect people who fight to defend the system hurting them. [b]EDIT 3: [/b]All big business is owned by the 1%. And thusly they don't care where you spend your money, as long as you do. The power of consumer choice is a lie. Pick up your Destiny box and read the back, it literally says "rich cinematic story telling". Can you see the problem there? [b]EDIT 4:[/b] Best insult received: "Also, I find your username hilariously perfect. Do you refer to your house as "The Superiority Complex"?" lel [b]Final Edit:[/b] I have just read the details of The Dark Below, and it will not fix the inherent failures of this game. They are pushing forward with this hacked up iteration of Destiny. They sold us one game, delivered another, and for better or for worse this is it now. It is a game aimed at the 12yr olds, the CoD generation, and I am out. I will boost friends in the raid only until I can trade this in for GTA V. See you Manhattan-side for The Divison, Guardians!
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  • It is clear from your statements that this entire post is not relevant to criticizing the game, but rather a political statement. You refer to the "brainwashing" of people by corporately owned media, but you only list two examples, both of which are conservative leaning. You also state that profit "should" be a dirty word. These statements show a left-leaning, anti-capitalism position and subsequent opinions that you are presenting as fact. While it makes no difference to me what your political or social views are, they do not have anything to do with Destiny, Bungie, Deej, or this community. You are certainly well within your rights to hold whatever opinions you wish, and express them as you wish, but presenting those opinions as facts without any real evidence just invalidates your argument. Corporately owned media (of any political flavor) did not have anything to do with the development or distribution of Destiny, nor did they have any influence on your experience with the game. Paid DLC is a standard business model in today's gaming world, especially with large scale AAA titles. These expansion packs were a part of the Destiny 10 year plan from the beginning, and none of the "evidence" you have presented shows any malice, misconduct, or misrepresentation. The existence of supposedly playable area on the disc, but locked out of current normal player accessibility, shows only that Bungie has possible additional areas that are connected to the current play space. Nothing about their existence is proof that Bungie or Activision cheated you out of these areas, only that they possibly intended on these areas being playable at some point. Whether that point in time was supposed to be at launch and was removed to be "pay locked" for future DLC is pure conjecture. Lastly, you refer to Activision as the Lords of Profiteering. Activision is part of Activision/Blizzard, which is a publicly traded company. The only responsibility that they have is to generate revenue and profit for their shareholders. They are not required to produce products, in this case video games, that meet your expectations, or mine for that matter. The theory is simple and holds true for any company: produce good products that people will buy and you will gain revenue and profit. The opposite is also true, so if you as the consumer feel that Activision is responsible for what your perceive as a bad product, then simply do not purchase any of their products in the future. The pros and cons with large corporate game publishers and the DLC business model are philosophical debates that I for one am happy to have, but they again do not have anything to do with your experience with the game. You made the choice to purchase Destiny. Activision and Fox News did not force you to buy it. As has been said many times on many similar threads, if you are not happy with the game, then don't play. If you are not happy with the producer/publisher, then do not purchase their products in the future. And please, keep your politics out of a gaming forum. There are plenty of places on the internet where you can argue politics, far away from Bungie.net.

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