I'd like to start my post by saying I've never used the VM and I'll be the first to admit I'm no "elite" PVP player, in fact, I'm pretty average. But I have played many FPS games and still am an MMO player, so have seen these types of "nerf" many times before. With that out of the way, did the VM need the nerf? Well, the answer is yes and no. It most certainly didn't need to be nerfed in PVE, but in PVP, it did, no doubt about it and here's why; Crucible is designed to be a level playing field that any level player can participate in, a blue grade Shingen can just as easily win a fight as an exotic grade Suros. The Vex however, was on a whole other level, and if you were in range of that thing, anyone with half a braincell could mow you down. Even when I went face to face using a maxed out Swarm, we traded kills. I may be average, but I can still aim and this to me just reinforced the point - this thing can kill as quick as a heavy weapon. Most players I can go back to and get a "revenge" kill, but every Mythoclast I've seen has caused nothing but problems - you can't honestly tell me it's all skill, we all know there's a lot of people who have these who didn't truly "earn" it and were just given the checkpoint and a "cheese it" win. Anyone remember COD:MW2? The dual akimbo or the "care package knife" sprees? They got fixed pretty quick, and rightly so, they unbalanced the game. This is what the Vex does, it unbalances the crucible to the point where, if you aren't using it, you probably aren't winning. There's a clear reason why the owners of this weapon want it back, it's because of how strong it is. I see too many people saying "get good, it's easy to outgun", but if this were completely true, why would they be so hellbent on using the gun? I can only hope the nerf is a temporary solution to restore balance to crucible and further adjustments are to come. Because despite how it unbalanced the crucible, I still don't think it deserved the nerf it got, not entirely. I think the best solution would be for it to have separate stats for PVP, so it can maintain its position in PVE. I'd even be fine with it having its unrestricted stats in Iron Banner (let's not get into the issues with IB here though), after all, yes, you did (or a lot of you anyway) earn it and should have something good to show. I'm not without sympathy though, I've been on the receiving end of these nerfs in other games and I'll admit it does leave a sour taste, but all I can say is you'll get used to it over time.