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10/9/2014 5:47:39 AM
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Vault of Glass or Vault of Exploits?
So my hard mode group clears the content the way its meant to be cleared or at least how devs designed it to be cleared just to entertain ourselves. Im level 30 with all raid gear +1 exotic armor if i feel like it and have and use my Vex Mythoclast. When i try to be nice and help lower levels with regular modes (usually because it is a friend in the group) I explain my groups strategies, but im met with complaining and the request to just do the "exploit the boss strat."
Are these exploits being addressed? Will the fights change at all? I dont know much about the console world but exploits like these create a huge distrust in content later down the road for the developers. I dont mind early on that the ONLY mechanic in ever boos fight is clear minions and dps boss. But when people have to even bypass that simplest of task it makes me wonder how this community is going to thrive when someone from Bungie smartens up and actually makes fights with real mechanic and no exploits to take advantage of.
Some people say who cares, but its the same people I find crying because things are too easy in this game. that cant seem to down content without tricking the system and thats just in the small group of friends-of-a-friend click i have with people. I cant imagine how many more of you are out there.
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1 ReplyNecrobump
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[quote]So my hard mode group clears the content the way its meant to be cleared or at least how devs designed it to be cleared just to entertain ourselves.[/quote] So did you let three random people be teleported through the timestream each time? That, according to the developers, is the way it was designed. If not, then you also exploited the horrifically broken and apparently-not-very-well-tested system.
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surprised at the answers honestly. can't believe ppl don't want the challenge, that's not even fun. fix the raid and glitches, don't change the way ppl teleport
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More like Vault Of Glitches
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People exploit because they aren't guarantee a raid gear for completing it. Why collect shards and energy when I could just start from Templar/Gatekeeper/Atheon checkpoint and try my luck on the raid gear. I have done 10+ raids, only to get my 1st raid armor from cheesing Atheon on hard. If that's the way Bungie made it, that's the way I'm gonna play it
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dude, i have done it both ways, they are both about the same amount of annoying, but i wont chose one over another because thats what these kinds of games are about, finding different ways to do things, like the skulls in halo 2
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i know that the people who have complete raid gears and good weapons from hard mode are the ones trying to make the patch go faster cuz they don't want people to get their hands on those items, let them feel exclusive.
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First off, Bungie IS fixing atheon. Second, you are level 30 with a mythoclast. How many raids did you complete "legit" before getting all your gear and the myth? Specifically the myth. I've endured countless raids both hard and normal 'legit' After dealing with the constant bombardment of bugs, glitches, and issues with the stupid raid just to get, when I'm lucky, the same shader, ship, and sparrow I'm not wasting my time anymore. This is what it comes down to: The groups wanting to cheese the bosses usually are just people sick of doing it legit, just to have the game screw up and -blam!- us over causing a wipe of the team. I.e. Atheon teleporting two people, minotaurs with regenerating health, hobgoblins walking around while immune, etc. Then after suffering through all of this over and over, getting nothing but a soft moist penis in the eye as a reward. I understand that it's RNG, and that doesn't bother me, but I'm not wasting my time to get shards or energy anymore
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2 RepliesSays the lvl 30 with the vex mythocast. Is bet the house you did the same and now you want to be the special one. Why do people cry about shit that doesnt effect them. Seriously man worry about yourself. There is smart ways to kill EVERYTHING in this game.
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5 RepliesPersonally I fear it's to late with atheon now but hopefully future raids are more fool proof. If they patch it people will complain that others took advantage of it, which would hold merit. I wouldn't mind them wiping all raid gear from the game and patching all the bugs/exploits in the vault and than have everyone go back to grinding for the gear though.
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Here's where I have a problem with people complaining about the use of "exploits" over strategy. Any military personnel will tell you any good strategy will exploit the targets weakness. By military logic (and let's not mistake, destiny is a futuristic military game) the "exploits" are strategy. The idea of a strategy is to make the mission easier and safer to accomplish, which is exactly what the "exploits" are.
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It's hilarious how some people think a number by their name gives them some sort of superiority complex. People can play the game however they want outside of illegal activities. Get off your high horse.
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We didn't add matchmaking for raids because the raids are too hard for an uncoordinated group but we also left it to where you can kill the final boss in hard mode in under two minutes with basically no effort and minimal coordination...
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Fix the Exploits- Exploits shouldn't be the Strat!
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8 RepliesEdited by LeeLee Iza: 10/9/2014 7:31:13 AMMany of us don't have a Guild, friends playing, or even TS <- we play this game to get some peace of mind & listen to some music, not to chat/listen to a bunch of strangers discussing silly tactics & always thinking they know best. Condemning [b]Solo[/b] players for Exploits (making a Nightfall strike doable) while you yourself hold the most prized weapon of the game.. Is like being filthy rich from a very lucky inheritance while you laugh & complain about people who work for a living. When someone does really well in PvP with just a white/blue rifle, what do you think he/she could do with the all famous Vex Mythoclast? It's easy to Judge people when you hold all the cards. For those of us at the bottom, just the chance of having a solid/main exotic weapon justifies almost anything simply 'cause you already have it while [b]many[/b] players never even get the opportunity.
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3 RepliesIf there wasn't only one raid, that you need to do multiple times to get all the gear. At least 10 times if you want full raid gear for 3 characters. If people need to do something over and over again, they're going to find the quickest way to do that. You can run the raid for rewards once per week on normal and hard, on each character, so a person could be doing the raid up to 6 times a week. That will get repetitive. By the time you've done your third run and still have no raid gear, people get tired of it and just want to be done with it. TL;DR More variety = less searching for exploits.
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fix the glitches that hinder us before those that help us, i say
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Welcome to your first MMO experience OP. If you don't like farming then don't participate in it.
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3 RepliesIt is not hacking. It is bending the rules
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i play all my games the way the developers intended it to be played. it is much more satisfying that way
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Eh its a shame scrub cod trash kids abuse stuff then think they are on the same playing field
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2 RepliesI hope you know the devs put these spots there intentionally. It's obvious. If you don't want to use them then don't.
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6 RepliesIt's not like the exploits are easy. And besides we still have to bypass rng. Also, next time you make a poll, don't make it so biased.
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If the raid actually gave good rewards all the time then maybe cheesing would be an issue. But the raid is basically a fancy week timed ascendant material farm. They arn't really exploits.
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