I've put quite a lot of time into the beta and one thing I can say with absolute certainty is that, god damn, the auto rifle is the most OP piece of bullhonkey that I have ever experienced. It dominates at all ranges. It kills twice as fast as any other gun while also requiring less precision. There have been times where I have shotgunned people directly in the back of the head and then melee'd them, and they just turn around and shoot me with the auto rifle for half a second to kill me. Literally 9 out of 10 players who I find in Crucible are using the auto rifle, which has to mean something. The auto rifle is the easiest to use while also having no obvious drawbacks. It beats the hand cannon at close range and it's at least as good as the scout rifle at long range. I've had it with the bullsh!t auto rifle. I would say that perhaps increased recoil would nerf it down enough, or maybe increased spread so it's no so easy to spray and pray.
Also, before anyone says that powering up the other weapons is a better alternative to nerfing the auto rifle, I would like to say that I don't want Destiny PvP to turn into a CoD-like twitchfest where everyone dies instantly due to the high effectiveness of all the weapons. I would much rather have certain guns be powered down so that it takes longer to kill somebody, which encourages more strategic and skillful play, similar to Halo.
Alright, I've had my rant. F*CK THE AUTO RIFLE!
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I can attest to this. The shingen-c is nuts. I'm living proof of this! When I started PvP my k/d was something like 0.3, but ever since I discovered the shingen my k/d has slowly been rising, I'm at a 0.8 now. I am horrible at PvP, I should not be anywhere near 1.0. Seriously.
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They aren't over powered, they can be easily outgunned by a well aimed Pulse Rifle or Scout Rifle.
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You are also playing as a warlock. They don't have the armor compared to a hunter or a Titan.
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I had only used the Sahara AR before a few hours ago, which is an example of a balanced AR. It was tough to aim, didn't do much damage, and had decent range while having an insane fire rate. I then switched to the Cydonia AR3. My k/d instantly went up to constant 2.5, and I got 38 kills, 37 kills and 29 kills on my next three rounds. I was able to fight 2 guys at a time and win, I outgunned a sniper at range. This put me firmly in the realm of wanting all AR recoil kept very high like the Sahara.
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Hell to the NO
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Piss off, they already nerfed tanks before we had full game content, last thing we need is more nerfs before every weapon is fully unlocked and useable. Only thing they need is increased crit on Hand Cannons and Less recoil on pulse rifles.
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Buff Pulse/Handcannon don't touch AR, they are fine. Stop your crying you little baby.
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Touch the auto rifle and i will break your neck guardian
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Edited by Tecprincesself: 7/26/2014 1:42:48 AMIf your die a lot from AR, then you are relying on your guns too much. I rely on my knife, grenades, and super lot more than my gun. I use them to help with my gun.
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They wont be i got a legendery gun its a pulse rifle and it says its made for the crusible and that gun looks pretty op and i dont want to know strong it will be when its fully upgraded
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You're a retard dude getting butt hurt cause you die a lot and complain about the auto rifles just to make your self feel better
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Nerf it!!! Nerf it now!!! Nerf it into a b.b.gun, red rider style...
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Whatever who cares about pvp that is the most disappointing thing about this game. Forget the auto rifles nerf the super abilities if you want to make it fair. As long as they leave the auto rifle alone for pve do what you want with pvp. They base all the cool drops on that anyway.
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PVP needs to -blam!-ing die in this game.