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Edited by Ultra: 12/9/2013 9:03:17 PM
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The Darkness and the 'Soul Theory' in Destiny.

(Everything below is my speculation on the story in the form of a giant wall of text and could be a spoiler if I am half as good as guessing as I think I am. If you don't have an open mind or zero taste for story in video games, then get out pls.) While talking a good friend of mine (known by Self Defeat on the forums) I had some wild speculation on the story of Bungies new universe after he had showed me to [url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vI-Qw5Fx4Ww]a Gameinformer summary video[/url] which was very detailed and fact oriented. I've concluded thus far the following things. [spoiler]Make note that in very early Destiny concept art, they did not decide right away if Destiny was to be a fantasy game or sci fi, so what if they blended the two? Make note than when you kill a Fallen whats believed to be its soul, visibly bursts from its body, I use that as my basis for why souls might be valid in speculation. Edit: Make note that the Darkness has been confirmed to be the Travelers ancient enemy, giving a better edge to my theory's. Speculation on Destiny's story starts now: -The Traveler sparked the Golden Age to prepare the solar system for a war against the Darkness. The Traveler alone knew it could not beat the Darkness alone, despite its own immense power, so it shared its vast knowledge with humanity to use/give humanity as/an edge against the Darknesss. -The Darkness is the fifth race that had wiped out humanity, I am 99% certain of this. -The Darkness is indeed going to come again, to try and finish the job. -During the war in which the Darkness wiped out humanity, it had used humanity against its self, in the form of the Hive and by harvesting human souls. -The Hive are human bodies that have had their souls torn out, and are merely husks of humans used for war. The Hive were basically slave, or still slave to the Darkness. The moon was hollowed out by the Hive to be used as a foward base in the Darkness's assault on Earth. The concept art of derelict and ancient human ships in space, are ships that have been raided by the Darkness, and converted all humans inside the ships (maybe other life) into Hive. -The Awoken are human souls, the Exo are machines with human souls; when the Darkness harvested human souls (to fuel machines and dark magic) some human warlocks/the Traveler had taken back the harvested human souls that the Darkness had been collecting. The human warlocks/Traveler of the golden age, gave some of the souls a magical yet physical form (Awoken) and also had forged a 'soul drive' which embedded a human soul into machinery (Exo). -The reason there are very few Awoken and Exo is because while humanity was being wiped out, they could only save very few human souls from being weaponized or used as fuel by the Darkness. -The Vex and the Cabal are fighting for a Golden Age artifact on mars that could be influential against the second coming of the Darkness or to invade the last city of Earth. -The Vex are guarding their massive teleporter/time machine on Venus, thus why they kill all life near it. -The Fallen were attacked by Golden Age humanity and/or the Darkness when the Darkness came. The Fallen now hold a grudge against humanity and want to raid the last city to restore their own prosperity. -The Vex have traveled back in time/across space to try and save themselves from death by the darkness. The glowing thing in their guts are 'soul-drives' such as those used by the Exo. (Thus explaining why shooting it in the gut is better than a head shot). The Vex has already been wiped out once before, and nearly their entire race has been converted into 'soul drives' and integrated into machines by their own doing. -The Cabal have not been wiped out once before by the Darkness, and the reason why the Vex and Cabal fight for the artifact on Mars is because the Cabal want to use it for their own reasons, while the Vex want to use it to fight the Darkness. [/spoiler] End of wild speculation time, agree, call me stupid, or surprise me, but more importantly discuss. *sips coffee*

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  • The hive are just stupid zombies

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    • Edited by CReAT0R: 12/10/2013 7:03:21 AM
      Could this be the influence of the Darkness? An unknown entity which controls the Fallen and Cabal shown above? You can clearly see dark coloured smoke flowing off them. Interesting.

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      • Edited by FairlySplendid: 12/10/2013 7:29:30 PM
        [b]So is anyone else getting a [u]Babylon 5[/u] vibe? Vorlons vs The Shadows?[/b] Vorlons: [quote]While almost all the other species of First Ones left the galaxy, the Vorlons stayed behind to act as guardians for younger species.[/quote] The Shadows: [quote]An incorporeal being, the second race among the First Ones, In contrast to the Vorlons, whose philosophy is represented by the question "Who are you?", that of the Shadows is represented by the question "What do you want?", centering towards desire rather than identity.[/quote]

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      • http://imgur.com/a/XOVzD#2 "Inspired by the classic undead from fantasy fiction, the Hive are an impossibly ancient race that has kept themselves alive on tomb-like sarcophagus ships. The Hive delve deep into a planetoid, unheeding of the damage they do in the process, crafinting linked caverns and gothic-inspired columns." -Gameinformer

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      • I feel like this kind of thinking falls along the line of the Indoctrination Theory regarding ME3's ending. I actually like that particular theory better than the actual ending You have some good ideas, and your theory might even be better than what is actually going to be in the game. But if you think that you are going to guess the intricacies of Destiny's lore just by a few screenshots and info leaks, you are deluding yourself.

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      • Here are ny thoughts: Exos are inspired by the Vex. Both with souls of their own species. Awoken are souls. Just souls. Cabal were ancient enemies of the Vex. Cabal obliterated them turning them into a soul-driven mech species. The Fallen were slapped around by those slenderman looking things. Hive=space zombies

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        • Edited by Ghost593835: 12/10/2013 1:36:32 AM
          The cabal are a huge empire. They came to our solar system to wage war

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        • Most seems good expect the hive are ancient

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        • Aren't the Darkness those pyramid ships with the green aurora around them? If so then I'd have to disagree with your soul theory as theres at least 1 pic (and a smaller profile pic) of Fallen, Cabal and I think something else all marching together with this green aura around them. Which suggests that the darkness (if we are thinking of those pyramid ships) take a more direct and obvious approach to controlling others (namely the green mind control thing) then leaving husks and feeding of souls.

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          • Edited by Progo: 12/9/2013 2:33:36 AM
            [quote]The Hive are human bodies that have had their souls torn out, and are merely husks of humans used for war.[/quote] Neat idea, but is there any source? I really like your theory about the Fallen!

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            • I hope this is true.

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            • The hive are stupid

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            • I'm more interested in where the Awoken and Exo came from. I'd like to know a little about them before I think about choosing a race.

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              • le wild speculation huehue

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                • Edited by Ghost593835: 12/9/2013 12:19:07 AM
                  The hive are just like the creatures from resistance. They turn them into hybrids. I knew bungie where to stupid to explore zombies and use them in new ways.

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                • The hive- like ancient creatures like parasites that go underground by digging and make tgeir colonies and since tgeyre parasites tgey try to infeect other living beings (not all only the ones compatible with the infection like humans cabal etc) . amd tgeyve been around before humanity!!! and the fith race or darkness-what if yu destroy it and it turns into a gas form tgat evaporates ibto space somewhere unkiwn (like a black hole) then after a couple years the gas form or farknes (black soul) takes a shape of a creture tgen comes back to earth!

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                  • Edited by Self Defeat: 12/8/2013 10:09:02 PM
                    For some reason I feel as though this picture relevant. Could these be souls? Awoken?

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                    • Edited by Self Defeat: 12/8/2013 4:27:11 AM
                      Assuming Race 5 is the darkness, there must be some reason as to why Bungie has been so quiet about them. Perhaps it is because of the massive amount of power they possess. I mean, something had to hurt the Traveler right?

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                      • the darkness is tge fith race and its undestroyable u can "kill it" but it will always COME BACK its possible to stop it from its purpose and make it vanish for now but it will always be able to come back ( mybe like evey eclipse or every decade millenium etc)

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                        • Edited by Gay Snake: 12/8/2013 9:50:45 PM
                          I hate the Idea of the Exo and Awoken having a human origin.

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                          • BTW why would tge Vex wanna kill humans??????

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                            • your wrong about the hive Hives: Ancient race that kept themselves alive in sarcophagus like ships. They typically burrow into a planet regardless of the damage it may cause and burrow tunnels and dungeon like caverns.

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                              • I rather like that, though I don't really like the Hive being Human husks thing. Kinda want them to subvert the standard undead stuff a bit. Other than that though, I like it. Gave believable, and save for the Cabal and hive, not-evil reasons for fighting against Humanity. AND NOW BECAUSE YOU POSTED IT IT'S GOING TO END UP NOT HAPPENING YOU BASTARD [spoiler]:P[/spoiler]

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                                • I like the idea of Exo/awoken having a human origin.

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                                  • Good work man!

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                                  • Yes that is hood you should watch some of my theorys in my profile theyre very similar to yurs in tge race and class explanation and theyre very intresting you should check them out

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