[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Invisible Voice First, off Crimson wasn't a failure. I thought it was good. Second, I have full confidence that Bungie will create the next biggest title, or at least something awesome. They're Bungie, for Bungie's sake. HAve a little faith. They aren't dark, they're just preparing to blossom again with ridiculous amounts of awesome.[/quote] Who said that ([i]Invisible Voice[/i])? - lol. Now Crimson. Think you are getting confused between '[i]Crimson Steam Pirates[/i]' (a [url=http://harebrained-schemes.com/]Harebrained Schemes[/url] game), and a [url=http://tsdr.uspto.gov/#caseNumber=85312530&caseType=SERIAL_NO&searchType=statusSearch]trademarked name 'Crimson'[/url] which was lodged and later abandoned when it was found to conflict with existing use. It was the [url=http://tsdr.uspto.gov/#caseNumber=77950813&caseType=SERIAL_NO&searchType=statusSearch]aerospace[/url] project which was meant to promote both ... but this too has also been abandoned. By any standard, a mobile platform publisher who can only get one title in two years is a failure - bungie obviously thought so given they have abandoned all hope. And next title. No one disputes they are creating a title, and given Activision has already paid out an advance on future sales I guess they will be upset to hear otherwise. Wasnt disputing the game ... only that bungie will not be hosting it here. Like the whole areospace (aka waste-of-space) experience, bungie will abandon this site and setup a fresh image which is not tainted by their past. In which case ... time to focus on whats left and restructure it into some sub forums.