[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] LJOY95 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] FloodPsychologis [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] ninjakenzen [url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ufLAitMq3zI]Get educated[/url] I'm tired of being labeled the bad guy in threads like this because you guys don't understand your history. You take bits, and then twist it to Israel's favor. The truth is, Israel is benefiting the most. You just see bad statistics on [u]both[/u] sides and look for the lesser of two evils. This is a complex situation, No doubt about it. But this BS about Israel being the boohoo victims is just BS. You can call me MIDF, whatever. I don't even conform to those labels. The fact that Israel exists is a major imbalance in the middle east. It stems from a brutal and racist ideology. That is very much not Jewish at heart. If anything it's the closest thing to modern day na.zism. The whole superior people, driving out race, etc. It's a ironic situation based on hypocrisy and history repeating itself. Quite frankly you either support Zionism or you don't. I don't. As a result, I believe in Palestinian solidarity.[/quote] It really isn't comparable at all to the supposed evil of the National Socialists even if you are completely objective about it and don't support either side. Roughly 20,000 dead over 60 years, no large-scale intended massacres. If you want genocide, look at Rwanda, or what the Ottomans did, or the Holodomor, that's in the hundreds of thousands and millions in a much shorter period. That's genocide. I support Israel in the same way I support Russians against the barbaric Chechnens. If these two nations were both white, they'd get along fine but Arab Muslims tend to be and hot-headed and often violent (I've dealt with them), so I don't really expect much out of any peace treaties. I bet if these were Kazakh Muslims they'd be having tea right now. [/quote]It is comparable in the sense that Zionism, like Hitler's ideology, looks to displace an entire nation so that another one can inhabit its place. Israel is doing this slowly by encroaching on land in the West Bank not administered by the Palestinian Authority and ensuring that when they get to the negotiating table, those settlements are covered in the famous 'land-swaps'. Surely, it's not like Hitler's mass murder machine, but the ends are the same. Furthermore, your assertion that Arab Muslims tend to be hot headed and violent because you've dealt with them is as stereotypical as saying all Jews are rich snobs. I've dealt with Arab Muslims too, very kind and welcoming people. The Palestinians are not barbaric, and Hamas it's not sure if Hamas represents most of Palestinians anymore because it's been so long since the last Palestinian elections. Even then, Hamas is not barbaric, it's a resistance force; when Israel, like Russia, speak of self-defense, they mean the kind of self-defense that occupying powers must enforce to maintain their occupied population oppressed. It's not like Hamas and its affiliates don't have cause to resist. Even then, while the violent resistance is logical, I don't support it. Civilians have been killed on both ends, and as long as both Israel and Hamas preach that there are no partners for peace, then the military-industrial complexes will reign and Palestine will continue to be pushed away until all of its lands become Israel. I hope that centuries from now, people will not talk about Palestine as they do now with the Native Americans. [/quote] That wasn't the original intent of Zionism. I think a lot of it comes from this belief of "they have 22 states they'd fit perfectly in, why can't we have 1?" It again cannot be compared because it isn't a genocide firstly, and secondly, the Palestinians are not a unique and historically identifiable people. Some come from Egypt, some from Syria, some from Jordan. Their existence as a national people began in the 20th century unlike the Jews. I can see why the settlements would be a problem for future peace settlements, but I can't say I care, I support them because they're white, not because they're Jewish. Arab Muslims are hot-headed and quick to turn to cussing and violence. I've seen then. There might be some who aren't, but I can't stand them. Muslims from Persia and Central Asia are completely different. They have just as much to do with Arabs in terms of how they act as the Chinese do. I don't care what you say about the Jews, many of them (not all) are snobby -blam!-s, and were heavily involved in the Holodomor. Is Hamas a resistance force? It is declared in its Charter to remove the Jewish people from existence. Quite different than most resistance groups such as the Forest Brothers or Communist guerillas fighting against the National Socialists.

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] The Cheese Lady That whole area is just a -blam!- hole. There was reason for uproar and now it's just been going on long enough that they just fight each other because that's just what they've always done. [/quote] Israel is not a -blam!- hole, they have all the good stuff.

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] FloodPsychologis [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] ninjakenzen [url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ufLAitMq3zI]Get educated[/url] I'm tired of being labeled the bad guy in threads like this because you guys don't understand your history. You take bits, and then twist it to Israel's favor. The truth is, Israel is benefiting the most. You just see bad statistics on [u]both[/u] sides and look for the lesser of two evils. This is a complex situation, No doubt about it. But this BS about Israel being the boohoo victims is just BS. You can call me MIDF, whatever. I don't even conform to those labels. The fact that Israel exists is a major imbalance in the middle east. It stems from a brutal and racist ideology. That is very much not Jewish at heart. If anything it's the closest thing to modern day na.zism. The whole superior people, driving out race, etc. It's a ironic situation based on hypocrisy and history repeating itself. Quite frankly you either support Zionism or you don't. I don't. As a result, I believe in Palestinian solidarity.[/quote] It really isn't comparable at all to the supposed evil of the National Socialists even if you are completely objective about it and don't support either side. Roughly 20,000 dead over 60 years, no large-scale intended massacres. If you want genocide, look at Rwanda, or what the Ottomans did, or the Holodomor, that's in the hundreds of thousands and millions in a much shorter period. That's genocide. I support Israel in the same way I support Russians against the barbaric Chechnens. If these two nations were both white, they'd get along fine but Arab Muslims tend to be and hot-headed and often violent (I've dealt with them), so I don't really expect much out of any peace treaties. I bet if these were Kazakh Muslims they'd be having tea right now. [/quote]It is comparable in the sense that Zionism, like Hitler's ideology, looks to displace an entire nation so that another one can inhabit its place. Israel is doing this slowly by encroaching on land in the West Bank not administered by the Palestinian Authority and ensuring that when they get to the negotiating table, those settlements are covered in the famous 'land-swaps'. Surely, it's not like Hitler's mass murder machine, but the ends are the same. Furthermore, your assertion that Arab Muslims tend to be hot headed and violent because you've dealt with them is as stereotypical as saying all Jews are rich snobs. I've dealt with Arab Muslims too, very kind and welcoming people. The Palestinians are not barbaric, and Hamas it's not sure if Hamas represents most of Palestinians anymore because it's been so long since the last Palestinian elections. Even then, Hamas is not barbaric, it's a resistance force; when Israel, like Russia, speak of self-defense, they mean the kind of self-defense that occupying powers must enforce to maintain their occupied population oppressed. It's not like Hamas and its affiliates don't have cause to resist. Even then, while the violent resistance is logical, I don't support it. Civilians have been killed on both ends, and as long as both Israel and Hamas preach that there are no partners for peace, then the military-industrial complexes will reign and Palestine will continue to be pushed away until all of its lands become Israel. I hope that centuries from now, people will not talk about Palestine as they do now with the Native Americans.

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] FloodPsychologis [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] ninjakenzen [url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ufLAitMq3zI]Get educated[/url] I'm tired of being labeled the bad guy in threads like this because you guys don't understand your history. You take bits, and then twist it to Israel's favor. The truth is, Israel is benefiting the most. You just see bad statistics on [u]both[/u] sides and look for the lesser of two evils. This is a complex situation, No doubt about it. But this BS about Israel being the boohoo victims is just BS. You can call me MIDF, whatever. I don't even conform to those labels. The fact that Israel exists is a major imbalance in the middle east. It stems from a brutal and racist ideology. That is very much not Jewish at heart. If anything it's the closest thing to modern day na.zism. The whole superior people, driving out race, etc. It's a ironic situation based on hypocrisy and history repeating itself. Quite frankly you either support Zionism or you don't. I don't. As a result, I believe in Palestinian solidarity.[/quote] It really isn't comparable at all to the supposed evil of the National Socialists even if you are completely objective about it and don't support either side. Roughly 20,000 dead over 60 years, no large-scale intended massacres. If you want genocide, look at Rwanda, or what the Ottomans did, or the Holodomor, that's in the hundreds of thousands and millions in a much shorter period. That's genocide.[/quote] I'm [u]not[/u] making this a competition on what ideology has achieved the most deaths. It's about the fact that a disgusting ideology like this is being practiced and supported [effectively] in the modern day. [quote]I support Israel in the same way I support Russians against the barbaric Chechnens. If these two nations were both white, they'd get along fine[/quote] This is a hell of bit more complex than just being white..... [quote]but Arab Muslims [u]tend to be and hot-headed and often violent (I've dealt with them)[/u], so I don't really expect much out of any peace treaties. [/quote] You just stereotyped a race out of personal experience and are using that as an argument in favor of the other side. *Facepalm. [Edited on 11.20.2012 2:29 PM PST]

That whole area is just a -blam!- hole. There was reason for uproar and now it's just been going on long enough that they just fight each other because that's just what they've always done. Boys with toys. There's no settling between groups. There will never be peace so long as that vengeful and childish mindset is in the minds of those with power. And that's all I have to say about that.

Lol Arabs cannot be anti-Semitic, Arabs are Semites too.

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] ninjakenzen [url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ufLAitMq3zI]Get educated[/url] I'm tired of being labeled the bad guy in threads like this because you guys don't understand your history. You take bits, and then twist it to Israel's favor. The truth is, Israel is benefiting the most. You just see bad statistics on [u]both[/u] sides and look for the lesser of two evils. This is a complex situation, No doubt about it. But this BS about Israel being the boohoo victims is just BS. You can call me MIDF, whatever. I don't even conform to those labels. The fact that Israel exists is a major imbalance in the middle east. It stems from a brutal and racist ideology. That is very much not Jewish at heart. If anything it's the closest thing to modern day na.zism. The whole superior people, driving out race, etc. It's a ironic situation based on hypocrisy and history repeating itself. Quite frankly you either support Zionism or you don't. I don't. As a result, I believe in Palestinian solidarity.[/quote] It really isn't comparable at all to the supposed evil of the National Socialists even if you are completely objective about it and don't support either side. Roughly 20,000 dead over 60 years, no large-scale intended massacres. If you want genocide, look at Rwanda, or what the Ottomans did, or the Holodomor, that's in the hundreds of thousands and millions in a much shorter period. That's genocide. I support Israel in the same way I support Russians against the barbaric Chechnens. If these two nations were both white, they'd get along fine but Arab Muslims tend to be and hot-headed and often violent (I've dealt with them), so I don't really expect much out of any peace treaties. I bet if these were Kazakh Muslims they'd be having tea right now.

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] ninjakenzen [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] thebig100 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] ninjakenzen [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] thebig100 Actually, until 2005, Gaza strip was a part of Israel, sense the Six Day War in the 60's. Israel hoped the people of Gaza would let a democratically, humane government to take control and be friendly towards Israel, but Hamas took control now it's just one massive ghetto neighborhood filled with Iranian weaponry and Soldiers who claim they fight for justice. [/quote] You're putting a twist on it. Israel has turned the Gaza strip into one of the world's largest prisons. They control what went in and out and the infrastructure was built to allow dependency and control to the Israelis. LOL you honestly think Israel plays nice and treats Palestinians with decent living conditions pre-2005 and even now so they can be 'friendly' with Israel? HAHAAHAHA. Oh yeah but Hamas, I guess he singlehandedly got elected by the people to turn itself into a ghetto, Well done, well read, like it wasn't one before that. I guess the Palestinians must be pleaing for Israeli control back. So they can return to their utopia.... Justice is blind in the middle-east, there's only blood on both sides. The only thing Israel hoped for and is successfully achieving, is keeping the Palestinians out of Palestine. [Now Israel...][/quote]Stop being that "edgy kid" with his "edgy" political opinions and see the truth. If you think Israel stole the land from "Palestine" and "Palestinians" then I guess if you live in the United States of America, you should leave to Europe, as Europeans conquered North/South America. The morality stance of the ownership of the land is the same as Israel's. Palestinians didn't complain before the war in the 60's, yet when after one they claim "Israel stole the land". The so called "Palestinians" could had their country sense 1948, but they didn't want just a portion, they wanted it all, the Jews who came from Europe and various other places agreed. But instead of agreeing, they, along with other Arab countries attacked the newly formed country, and Israel won. [/quote] You can't compare this situation with America in terms of land ownership. This is an entirely different circumstance, with the British at fault due to the sympathetic results of the Holocaust. The moral stance is not the same, even if it was, it doesn't justify anything. This is [u]now[/u] that was [u]then[/u]. If you were to compare with America, in this situation, the people that were being pushed out were the Native's and look how that turned out. Should we just wait till the Palestinians become an endangered race so they can get their reparations somewhere down the line, if at all? No -blam!- Palestinian's wanted it all. Do you think if a third party came in to America and wanted a part of it, the U.S would not want all 50 of it's states? The settlement decision has cause nothing but bloodshed and imbalance, it's one of the worst calls in History. Jews and Muslims had co-existed peacefully in Palestine up till the 20th century [to a large extent] until British colonialism -blam!- that up. [/quote]You, sir, are a beacon of greatness. It's incredible how stupid 'civilized' people can be. All just so that the Jews would support the British during WWI...

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] thebig100 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] ninjakenzen [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] thebig100 Actually, until 2005, Gaza strip was a part of Israel, sense the Six Day War in the 60's. Israel hoped the people of Gaza would let a democratically, humane government to take control and be friendly towards Israel, but Hamas took control now it's just one massive ghetto neighborhood filled with Iranian weaponry and Soldiers who claim they fight for justice. [/quote] You're putting a twist on it. Israel has turned the Gaza strip into one of the world's largest prisons. They control what went in and out and the infrastructure was built to allow dependency and control to the Israelis. LOL you honestly think Israel plays nice and treats Palestinians with decent living conditions pre-2005 and even now so they can be 'friendly' with Israel? HAHAAHAHA. Oh yeah but Hamas, I guess he singlehandedly got elected by the people to turn itself into a ghetto, Well done, well read, like it wasn't one before that. I guess the Palestinians must be pleaing for Israeli control back. So they can return to their utopia.... Justice is blind in the middle-east, there's only blood on both sides. The only thing Israel hoped for and is successfully achieving, is keeping the Palestinians out of Palestine. [Now Israel...][/quote]Stop being that "edgy kid" with his "edgy" political opinions and see the truth. If you think Israel stole the land from "Palestine" and "Palestinians" then I guess if you live in the United States of America, you should leave to Europe, as Europeans conquered North/South America. The morality stance of the ownership of the land is the same as Israel's. Palestinians didn't complain before the war in the 60's, yet when after one they claim "Israel stole the land". The so called "Palestinians" could had their country sense 1948, but they didn't want just a portion, they wanted it all, the Jews who came from Europe and various other places agreed. But instead of agreeing, they, along with other Arab countries attacked the newly formed country, and Israel won. [/quote] You can't compare this situation with America in terms of land ownership. This is an entirely different circumstance, with the British at fault due to the sympathetic results of the Holocaust. The moral stance is not the same, even if it was, it doesn't justify anything. This is [u]now[/u] that was [u]then[/u]. If you were to compare with America, in this situation, the people that were being pushed out were the Native's and look how that turned out. Should we just wait till the Palestinians become an endangered race so they can get their reparations somewhere down the line, if at all? No -blam!- Palestinian's wanted it all. Do you think if a third party came in to America and wanted a part of it, the U.S would not want all 50 of it's states? The settlement decision has cause nothing but bloodshed and imbalance, it's one of the worst calls in History. Jews and Muslims had co-existed peacefully in Palestine up till the 20th century [to a large extent] until British colonialism -blam!- that up.

Israel v. Palestine is an interesting topic in that most people attempt to take this incredibly complex solution and come to a black and white moral judgement. Neither side is innocent. Both sides have committed their fair share of atrocities. What Israel has been doing recently, however, is most definitely an atrocity to put on the list.

no, op. u ar gaza. adn den op wus gaza.

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] deltahalo UK [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Hamas We are doing a great job killing civilians instead of military forces.[/quote] The stat of 3 in 5 days would go contrary to that claim. I could kill 3 Israelis in five days, and I don't have any rockets[/quote] YOU LIAR!!

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] ninjakenzen [url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ufLAitMq3zI]Get educated[/url] I'm tired of being labeled the bad guy in threads like this because you guys don't understand your history. You take bits, and then twist it to Israel's favor. The truth is, Israel is benefiting the most. You just see bad statistics on [u]both[/u] sides and look for the lesser of two evils. This is a complex situation, No doubt about it. But this BS about Israel being the boohoo victims is just BS. You can call me MIDF, whatever. I don't even conform to those labels. The fact that Israel exists is a major imbalance in the middle east. It stems from a brutal and racist ideology. That is very much not Jewish at heart. If anything it's the closest thing to modern day na.zism. The whole superior people, driving out race, etc. It's a ironic situation based on hypocrisy and history repeating itself. Quite frankly you either support Zionism or you don't. I don't. As a result, I believe in Palestinian solidarity.[/quote]This

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] ninjakenzen [url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ufLAitMq3zI]Get educated[/url] [/quote] OMG U ANTISEMITE N@ZI HITLA SCUM11!!! OT: Israel is in the wrong here.

[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ufLAitMq3zI]Get educated[/url] I'm tired of being labeled the bad guy in threads like this because you guys don't understand your history. You take bits, and then twist it to Israel's favor. The truth is, Israel is benefiting the most. You just see bad statistics on [u]both[/u] sides and look for the lesser of two evils. This is a complex situation, No doubt about it. But this BS about Israel being the boohoo victims is just BS. You can call me MIDF, whatever. I don't even conform to those labels. The fact that Israel exists is a major imbalance in the middle east. It stems from a brutal and racist ideology. That is very much not Jewish at heart. If anything it's the closest thing to modern day na.zism. The whole superior people, driving out race, etc. It's a ironic situation based on hypocrisy and history repeating itself. Quite frankly you either support Zionism or you don't. I don't. As a result, I believe in Palestinian solidarity. [Edited on 11.20.2012 1:43 PM PST]

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] thebig100 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] ninjakenzen [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] thebig100 Actually, until 2005, Gaza strip was a part of Israel, sense the Six Day War in the 60's. Israel hoped the people of Gaza would let a democratically, humane government to take control and be friendly towards Israel, but Hamas took control now it's just one massive ghetto neighborhood filled with Iranian weaponry and Soldiers who claim they fight for justice. [/quote] You're putting a twist on it. Israel has turned the Gaza strip into one of the world's largest prisons. They control what went in and out and the infrastructure was built to allow dependency and control to the Israelis. LOL you honestly think Israel plays nice and treats Palestinians with decent living conditions pre-2005 and even now so they can be 'friendly' with Israel? HAHAAHAHA. Oh yeah but Hamas, I guess he singlehandedly got elected by the people to turn itself into a ghetto, Well done, well read, like it wasn't one before that. I guess the Palestinians must be pleaing for Israeli control back. So they can return to their utopia.... Justice is blind in the middle-east, there's only blood on both sides. The only thing Israel hoped for and is successfully achieving, is keeping the Palestinians out of Palestine. [Now Israel...][/quote]Stop being that "edgy kid" with his "edgy" political opinions and see the truth. If you think Israel stole the land from "Palestine" and "Palestinians" then I guess if you live in the United States of America, you should leave to Europe, as Europeans conquered North/South America. The morality stance of the ownership of the land is the same as Israel's. Palestinians didn't complain before the war in the 60's, yet when after one they claim "Israel stole the land". The so called "Palestinians" could had their country sense 1948, but they didn't want just a portion, they wanted it all, the Jews who came from Europe and various other places agreed. But instead of agreeing, they, along with other Arab countries attacked the newly formed country, and Israel won. [/quote] Actually, Israel was a region controlled by the Jews historically, as well. They had it for 3000 years prior to the Arab takeover in the early AD's

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Recon Number 54 On the Eastern coast of the Mediterranean, there have been; [url=http://www.aljazeera.com/news/middleeast/2012/11/2012111965527583514.html]100+ killed on both sides of a border where two countries are refusing to recognize the other's right to exist peacefully[/url]. and [url=http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/09/26/us-syria-crisis-toll-idUSBRE88P12Y20120926]At least 30,000 killed for trying to replace a totalitarian and repressive government[/url]. And which conflict is causing more outrage, cries for action, and demands for resolution from their neighbors? Hint: It has very little to do with math or with body counts.[/quote] Um, Israel/Gaza-Palestine? Thinking mostly due to power (US support of Israel) But then again, that conflict has been going on for years (probably with a lot more deaths than Syria's Arab Spring) and although both should be equally ended in some way (preferably peacefully), Other powers (Russia and China) are hindering further support of the rebels in Syria. Hell, no one's entirely tried to contact Al Assad for a ceasefire or peace treaty (or it's not shown on the news anyway) [Edited on 11.20.2012 8:37 AM PST]

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] I0 NotGinger 0I [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] tristram88 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Recon Number 54 On the Eastern coast of the Mediterranean, there have been; [url=http://www.aljazeera.com/news/middleeast/2012/11/2012111965527583514.html]100+ killed on both sides of a border where two countries are refusing to recognize the other's right to exist peacefully[/url]. and [url=http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/09/26/us-syria-crisis-toll-idUSBRE88P12Y20120926]At least 30,000 killed for trying to replace a totalitarian and repressive government[/url]. And which conflict is causing more outrage, cries for action, and demands for resolution from their neighbors? Hint: It has very little to do with math or with body counts.[/quote] I was unaware that the Syrian conflict was still going strong. I guess that proves your point,[/quote]Funny how we all started helping Lybia because they have oil whereas the Syrian government are just given a slap on the wrist by everybody.[/quote] I suspect that it was partly due to petroleum and European interests in it, but I also believe that it was in part due to the fact that Libya did not have a big-cousin on the Security Council of the UN. No major foreign power had a military base or Mediterranean port/naval base in Libya. One read of Western news -vs- RT when it comes to Syria and you can see who, how , why and where Russia has decided to take a stand.

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] tristram88 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Recon Number 54 On the Eastern coast of the Mediterranean, there have been; [url=http://www.aljazeera.com/news/middleeast/2012/11/2012111965527583514.html]100+ killed on both sides of a border where two countries are refusing to recognize the other's right to exist peacefully[/url]. and [url=http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/09/26/us-syria-crisis-toll-idUSBRE88P12Y20120926]At least 30,000 killed for trying to replace a totalitarian and repressive government[/url]. And which conflict is causing more outrage, cries for action, and demands for resolution from their neighbors? Hint: It has very little to do with math or with body counts.[/quote] I was unaware that the Syrian conflict was still going strong. I guess that proves your point,[/quote] Funny how we all started helping Lybia because they have oil whereas the Syrian government are just given a slap on the wrist by everybody.

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Recon Number 54 On the Eastern coast of the Mediterranean, there have been; [url=http://www.aljazeera.com/news/middleeast/2012/11/2012111965527583514.html]100+ killed on both sides of a border where two countries are refusing to recognize the other's right to exist peacefully[/url]. and [url=http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/09/26/us-syria-crisis-toll-idUSBRE88P12Y20120926]At least 30,000 killed for trying to replace a totalitarian and repressive government[/url]. And which conflict is causing more outrage, cries for action, and demands for resolution from their neighbors? Hint: It has very little to do with math or with body counts.[/quote] I was unaware that the Syrian conflict was still going strong. I guess that proves your point,

On the Eastern coast of the Mediterranean, there have been; [url=http://www.aljazeera.com/news/middleeast/2012/11/2012111965527583514.html]100+ killed on both sides of a border where two countries are refusing to recognize the other's right to exist peacefully[/url]. and [url=http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/09/26/us-syria-crisis-toll-idUSBRE88P12Y20120926]At least 30,000 killed for trying to replace a totalitarian and repressive government[/url]. And which conflict is causing more outrage, cries for action, and demands for resolution from their neighbors? Hint: It has very little to do with math or with body counts.

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] erac2detsaw2 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] I0 NotGinger 0I When did this happen? I've only been following the story since a few days ago so I don't really know what caused it.[/quote] Last week or the week before. As for what caused it, I'm not entirely sure. The opportunity arose?[/quote] I think it was because Hamas were sending rockets over, as normal...

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] thebig100 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] I0 NotGinger 0I What the hell is MIDF?[/quote]Muslim Internet Defense Force.[/quote]This is the point where I actually laughed out loud. Great thread.

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] I0 NotGinger 0I When did this happen? I've only been following the story since a few days ago so I don't really know what caused it.[/quote] Last week or the week before. As for what caused it, I'm not entirely sure. The opportunity arose?

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] tr sargent 1]Cause uproar by drone-killing the Leader of Hamas. [/quote] When did this happen? I've only been following the story since a few days ago so I don't really know what caused it.

Well, this escalated quickly. This was Israel's whole plan though, wasn't it? 1]Cause uproar by drone-killing the Leader of Hamas. 2]Hamas fire rockets in anger, Israel now have reason to invade Gaza. 3]Hamas have no chance of doing any serious damage, Israel have already killed the Leader, now have wasted Hamas's rockets and can remove Gaza off the map. 4]Either Gaza is 'annexed' or ceasefire occurs until this happens again.