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Want to build a PC? PC Building Guide and FAQ of The Flood

[b][u][i]The Official Flood BC Builders Guide and FAQ[/i][/u][/b] [quote][/quote] [quote] This thread's main purpose is to help The Flood to understand how computers work and how to build one, hardware discussion and build questions are encouraged. However, please try to refrain from flaming other users simply because they want to get into PC Gaming, if that's all you came in for, then you're not contributing to the thread in any productive way whatsoever.[/quote] [b][u][i]Tech Support Staff[/i][/u][/b] [quote][/quote] [quote] If you're helping anyone, please follow these guidelines: Make sure you only provide answers you are sure are 100% correct. If you aren't exactly sure, they make a clear indication, [i]e.g (Though I'm not exactly sure the offer is still available any more on Newegg)[/i]. To not use personal preferences or opinions to judge components or methods for other people, and if they do, they will give good reason to. Use proper grammar, spelling and terminology to respond to your queries. [/quote] [quote] [quote][b]Successful builders:[/b] The Salty Chip CostlyAxis thebig100 [/quote] [/quote] [b][u][i]Step-By-Step guide on how to build your PC[/b][/u][/i] [quote][/quote] [quote] After you've gathered all your parts, I'm assuming you're going to wonder what to do with all these wires. It's a pretty simple process, Of course, and we start with the case and the psu, or if you want, the motherboard, as long as either of them are put in first, it doesn't matter. [b][u]1. Fitting the PSU[/b][/u] [i]If you want to fit the motherboard first, go to step 2 then back to step 1.[/i] Open your case up, and look for a corner that looks like it will fit a PSU in it. It should be pretty obvious, if it already isn't, there should be four or 6 mounting screw holes for the PSU, and possibly parts built into the case to keep it into place. Just slot your PSU into there and screw in the appropriate screws. [b][u]2. Motherboard [/b][/u] Your case should already have a couple of mounting screws on the side, and it's pretty straightforward to see where the motherboard belongs and how it fits in the system. The IO shield (there should be a rectangular shaped hole in the back of your PC) should pop right into the back of your case. An IO shield should look something like [url=http://www.techpowerup.com/articles/144/images/6ioshield.JPG]this[/url]. After popping in the IO shield, check your motherboard box for [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Toennchen_IMGP5029_wp.jpg]standoffs[/url] (they come in plastic too) and screw them into the case's motherboard mounting holes, then just place the motherboard over the standoffs with the inputs that align to the IO shield (as long as your IO shield isn't upside down), and then screw the motherboard into the standoffs with the provided screws. If a screw won't go in or slightly flexes the motherboard, it might be recommended to leave this screw out, just as long as your motherboard is secure and you're not having problems with fitting upgrades in the PCI slots (we'll come to those later) the motherboard won't mind having a few screws missing if it doesn't look like it's going to be moving or rattling inside the case. [b][u]3. The Processor[/b][/u] In your motherboard, there should be a socket that looks either like [url=http://www.hardcore-hardware.com/images/news/lga-2011-computex/ASUS%20DB%206%20-%20Socket%202.JPG]this[/url] (Newer Intel) or [url=http://techreport.com/r.x/socket-am3/socket-am3.jpg]this[/url] (Newer AMD), or soemthing similar. It is very important that your socket number matches the motherboard's specifications, e.g LGA 1155 will only work with an LGA 1155 motherboard, even if an LGA 1136 looks like it's going to fit. For AMD, you'll find that they're more versatile in sockets, however, anyone can tell you that you should only vouch for AMD given that you are under a tight budget or are building a computer for relatively basic tasks. Anyway, you should see a latch on the side of the socket. Lift up the latch, (and if there's a pin protection plate, most likely on Intel motherboards remove it but do not damage it, you may need it later for RMAs.) and place the processor carefully onto the socket (try avoiding contact with the pins, there should be a small indicator such as a small triangle on the CPU and the motherboard showing which way the processor should be placed) then carefully slot the cpu into place, making sure it's in, and then you want to close the lid (for intel processors) and then press the latch down firmly and secure it. [b][u]4. The PCI expansions[/u][/b] On your motherboard, there should be a couple of PCI expansion slots, [url=http://www.naplestech.com/shopcart/images/pc_slots.gif]in their respective sizes.[/url] Now depending on the type of graphics card you buy, it should tell you which slot it goes in. Now, you start off by seeing which back plates the PCI slot is aligned to on the case, and you can begin by unscrewing the plate. You will want to do this with the case lying flat. In some cases for larger, or more powerful cards, they will use 2 of these back plates and you will need to unscrew more than one. Some PCI slots come with security latches that secure the card in place, and it should make a clicking sound when you plug the card into the slot. After the card is in place, you can use the screws you've taken out of the back panel to secure the card into the case, so that it stays there. This applies to other PCI slot accessories, e.g more USB slots, PCI wireless cards, capture cards, etc. [b][u]5. The Optical Drive/Blu-Ray Drive/SD Card reader etc.[/b][/u] Now these are very easy to install, inside the front half of your case, there should be a few slots for whichever peripherals you choose to install. Remove the front panel dust shield/filters (if you have any) for the slot you want your drive to take. Where the dust shield is removed, just slot in the drive and it should not stick out of the front panel, nor should it be pushed inward too much. After the necessary adjustments, you will see holes for screws in the side of the drive bays - you want to secure the drive in place firmly, but not too tightly, just until the screw's turning becomes slightly difficult to turn. [b][u]6. Hard Drive[/b][/u] You should see underneath where your disc drive is supposed to be {unless it's some sort of obscure case), there should be a mounting area for HDDs similar to the disc drive bays, now for some cases, you may get easy-install options, such as NZXT's clip-on and slide in. You can also purchase 2.5-3.5 inch conversion cases for your 2.5" HDD if you want to move over data from a laptop or an mATX desktop. Installation should be straight forward and very similar to the disc drives, you should have no problem installing it. Again, you only have to make sure it's secure, not tighten it to oblivion. [b][u]7. Wiring and Cable Management[/b][/u] ([i]Skip the first paragraph if you don't want to use cable management, it saves the hassle afterwards[/i]) If you have a modular PSU, only plug in the power cables you need, and for non-modular PSUs, just keep the spare wires away from the main airflow pats of the machine, you can use zip-ties and bunch them up behind the PC's back panel (if it has one) or just keep them away from the fans. Now here is where you connect everything to the everything. Depending on the motherboard you have, there should be one huge 24-pin connector or around that size, what you want to do is you want to find the matching PSU connector. Just plug in the corresponding power connectors to the Motherboard any way you see fit. Also note that there is a special fan connector for the CPU's cooling fan, ([i]Coming soon[/i]) [i]Instructions will be updated and revised[/i] [i]TBC[/i] [/quote] [quote] Useful Links [url=http://www.bungie.net/Forums/posts.aspx?postID=72304145&postRepeater1-p=37#73279965]Building a Computer[/url] [url=http://www.bungie.net/Forums/posts.aspx?postID=72304145&postRepeater1-p=43#73344677]Picking Compatible Parts[/url][/quote] [quote][/quote] [i]Thread OP construction is in progress, however, you may feel free to still ask PC Hardware-related questions. [/i] [Edited on 12.31.2012 8:28 PM PST]
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  • Imma go grab some links and edit this later. EDIT: Oh sweet! I got a great spot in this thread. YES[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=g-wfdgpCRXc].[/url] I'll post dem links as soon as I can find them. I could have sworn I had them in my favourites but they are not. I'm searching the internet for them. EDIT: Oh man, 3,500+ replies! This thread is getting popular. Perhaps I really should nab those links... EDIT#: Lol. I'm never going to "nab those links", am I? I suppose I really should, when I can. 'NOTHEREDIT: I don't even know what to do with this [i]goldmine[/i] of a space. I guess I really should grab some PC related links... And yet I don't! Though I really need to. [Edited on 11.24.2012 6:24 PM PST]

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  • [b][u][i]Building FAQ: Frequently asked questions[/b][/u][/i] [quote][/quote] [quote] [b][u]Q:[/b][/u] [b][u]A:[/b][/u] ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- [b][u]Q:[/b][/u] [b][u]A:[/b][/u] ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- [b][u]Q:[/b][/u] [b][u]A:[/b][/u] ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- [b][u]Q:[/b][/u] [b][u]A:[/b][/u] ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- [b][u]Q:[/b][/u] [b][u]A:[/b][/u] ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- [b][u]Q:[/b][/u] [b][u]A:[/b][/u] ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- [b][u]Q:[/b][/u] [b][u]A:[/b][/u] ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- [b][u]Q:[/b][/u] [b][u]A:[/b][/u] ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- [b][u]Q:[/b][/u] [b][u]A:[/b][/u] ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- [b][u]Q:[/b][/u] [b][u]A:[/b][/u] ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- [b][u]Q:[/b][/u] [b][u]A:[/b][/u] ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- [b][u]Q:[/b][/u] [b][u]A:[/b][/u] [/quote] [b][u][i]Common mistakes to avoid[/i][/u][/b] [quote][/quote] [i]Thread OP construction is in progress, however, you may feel free to still ask PC Hardware-related questions. [/i] [Edited on 08.23.2012 9:37 AM PDT]

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  • Should be helpful. [Edited on 05.21.2012 5:39 AM PDT]

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  • Dammit OP, you tease!

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Mythical Wolf [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] NH Chainsaw Edge [i]Thread OP construction is in progress, however, you may feel free to still ask PC Hardware-related questions. [/i][/quote] If it's still in progress of being constructed, why did you post it?[/quote]Doesn't mean you can't ask any questions

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Mythical Wolf [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] NH Chainsaw Edge [i]Thread OP construction is in progress, however, you may feel free to still ask PC Hardware-related questions. [/i][/quote] If it's still in progress of being constructed, why did you post it?[/quote] I still need to reserve further posts, however, that was interrupted by the spam filter :/ I'm not sure if I can get the B.net moderators to do anything about it, but this question is out of the context of the thread, so please edit it, it will look bad on the front page.

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  • I'm going to build a computer next year when i get the budget for it(1400$)Is ATI better then Nvidia? Because I'm wondering,also I go for Intel for CPU's? Because I don't need an i7 2500k because I'm not using any Photoshop or other kind of software that takes alot of CPU/Ram wise,but I'm into large scaled RTS Battles,so should i go with an i5 2500k?

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  • I have to go, and so I'm not going to be here for a while, so please be patient. I'll get back to your question when I'm back.

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  • Just what I needed OP - I'm building a PC at the minute. Cheers dude. Very helpful.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] baldeagle24 Thread saved and reserved for later questions.[/quote]

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  • [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HIJx6Y3tofg&feature=g-vrec[/url] There you go guys. Easy peasy! [Edited on 05.21.2012 5:34 AM PDT]

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] paddys1177 [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HIJx6Y3tofg&feature=g-vrec[/url] There you go guys. Easy peasy![/quote]>Uploaded on Dec 8, 2010

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] ReconE14 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] paddys1177 [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HIJx6Y3tofg&feature=g-vrec[/url] There you go guys. Easy peasy![/quote]>Uploaded on Dec 8, 2010[/quote] Nothings changed, same principal applies.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] paddys1177 [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HIJx6Y3tofg&feature=g-vrec[/url] There you go guys. Easy peasy![/quote] What about hardware picking questions and motherboard's unique front plate wiring IDs? A video can only tell you so much.

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  • A GOOD graphics card for high end video editing and graphics work, should I go with AMD or NVIDIA?

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  • The video is just to demonstate it's not hard. People seem to be too scared to build their own system.

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  • This has nothing to do with PC [i]building[/i], but I'm asking it anyway. As we all know, overclocking your CPU/GPU makes it get hotter a lot quicker. However, when I overclocked my graphics card (MSI GTX 560 Ti Twin Frozr II), the temperatures actually went down. Before I would get around 65 degrees when playing Battlefield 3, but now I get around 55 degrees. I even lowered my fan speeds. I increased the Core by 80mHz, Shader by 160mHz and Memory by 100mHz and never touched the voltage. I'm not complaining, but I'd like someone to explain how this is even possible. [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] thebig100 I'm going to build a computer next year when i get the budget for it(1400$)Is ATI better then Nvidia? Because I'm wondering,also I go for Intel for CPU's? Because I don't need an i7 2500k because I'm not using any Photoshop or other kind of software that takes alot of CPU/Ram wise,but I'm into large scaled RTS Battles,so should i go with an i5 2500k? [/quote] Personally, I would recommend Nvidia for higher end graphics cards, and AMD for lower end cards. Considering your budget, something like a GTX 670 would do nicely. However, it mostly depends on preferences. AMD cards run cooler and quieter than their Nvidia counterparts, but Nvidia cards have better performance. Intel is the most popular manufacturer for gaming PCs nowadays, so there should be no problem going for them. If you're not editing, an i3-2100 would suffice, but for the amount of money you have, I'd say an i5-3570K would be a fair investment. Go for Ivy Bridge, not Sandy Bridge.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] thebig100 I'm going to build a computer next year when i get the budget for it(1400$)Is ATI better then Nvidia? Because I'm wondering,also I go for Intel for CPU's? Because I don't need an i7 2500k because I'm not using any Photoshop or other kind of software that takes alot of CPU/Ram wise,but I'm into large scaled RTS Battles,so should i go with an i5 2500k? [/quote] ATI and nVidia card are pretty similar, however some people have trouble with AMD's drivers for some reason or another. I personally like AMD, because it's relatively cost effective, however if you have the money I would go with nVidia for a higher end card. I personally prefer Intel processors over AMD. RTS is a lot more processor based than GPU though. If you get an i5 2500k you can OC it yourself or get someone else to overclock it for you to increase the power. [Edited on 05.21.2012 5:40 AM PDT]

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Rashberry This has nothing to do with PC [i]building[/i], but I'm asking it anyway. As we all know, overclocking your CPU/GPU makes it get hotter a lot quicker. However, when I overclocked my graphics card (MSI GTX 560 Ti Twin Frozr II), the temperatures actually went down. Before I would get around 65 degrees when playing Battlefield 3, but now I get around 55 degrees. I even lowered my fan speeds. I increased the Core by 80mHz, Shader by 160mHz and Memory by 100mHz and never touched the voltage. I'm not complaining, but I'd like someone to explain how this is even possible. [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] thebig100 I'm going to build a computer next year when i get the budget for it(1400$)Is ATI better then Nvidia? Because I'm wondering,also I go for Intel for CPU's? Because I don't need an i7 2500k because I'm not using any Photoshop or other kind of software that takes alot of CPU/Ram wise,but I'm into large scaled RTS Battles,so should i go with an i5 2500k? [/quote] Personally, I would recommend Nvidia for higher end graphics cards, and AMD for lower end cards. Considering your budget, something like a GTX 670 would do nicely. However, it mostly depends on preferences. AMD cards run cooler and quieter than their Nvidia counterparts, but Nvidia cards have better performance. Intel is the most popular manufacturer for gaming PCs nowadays, so there should be no problem going for them. If you're not editing, an i3-2100 would suffice, but for the amount of money you have, I'd say an i5-3570K would be a fair investment. Go for Ivy Bridge, not Sandy Bridge.[/quote] Thanks Mate! I'd edit my consideration word file now! :-)

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  • Just built a pretty nice PC for under $500 (re-used my tower and drives): Graphics (Radeon HD 6790) [url=http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=365478&CatId=7005]http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=365478&CatId=7005[/url] $140 CPU (AMD Quad Core 3.6) [url=http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=1372438&CatId=7341 $120]http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=1372438&CatId=7341[/url] $120 MB [url=http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=1963472&CatId=7248]http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=1963472&CatId=7248[/url] $100 Power (750W) [url=http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=3276567&cm_re=TLC-_-Header%20Banner-_-PSU_ULT-LSP750]http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=3276567&cm_re=TLC-_-Header%20Banner-_-PSU_ULT-LSP750[/url] $70 Also got 8 gigs of RAM ($50). Went AMD because Intel is still pretty spendy right now.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Rashberry Intel is the most popular manufacturer for gaming PCs nowadays, so there should be no problem going for them. If you're not editing, an i3-2100 would suffice, but for the amount of money you have, I'd say an i5-3570K would be a fair investment. Go for Ivy Bridge, not Sandy Bridge.[/quote] If OP is not going to overclock, Ivy Bridge is fine, I've seen many stories posted about Ivy Bridge getting much hotter than the Sandy Bridge outside of original clock speeds, even turbo charge. Another friend of mine just says they're worse than Sandy bridge, though I'll have to get back to you on that, I haven't had any experiences with Ivy Bridges myself. Don't take my word for it, do whatever you want with this information, until I can find someone whose actually built a system with Ivy Bridge (still fairly new) I can't say for sure what they're like.

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  • Hey OP! What do you think of this build? HDD:1TB(1,000GB) Ram:8GB Case:CM690 II PSU:SeaSonix S1211 620 Bronze 620W GPU:Nvidia 570 GTX CPU:i5 2500k Mobo: Gigabyte GA-268A-D3H Should i get a higher PSU?

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Truth of TX A GOOD graphics card for high end video editing and graphics work, should I go with AMD or NVIDIA?[/quote] Well, since all cards from either sides have their counterparts, (save for GTX 58x and higher middle digit cards, which are really quite expensive), price/performance ratios aren't too different between the two. If you take a look at [url=http://www.hardcoreware.net/amd-vs-nvidia-best-video-card-for-200-dollars/1/]this[/url] article, the cards are pretty much on par with each other for pricing (by the same reseller), although ATI have been known to run a bit cooler, though I'm not sure if that's down to the aftermarket heatsinks they install. If we based them on the stock ATI/Nvidia heatsinks however, I would say ATI are a bit cooler than Nvidia.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] thebig100 Hey OP! What do you think of this build? HDD:1TB(1,000GB) Ram:8GB Case:CM690 II PSU:SeaSonix S1211 620 Bronze 620W GPU:Nvidia 570 GTX CPU:i5 2500k Mobo: Gigabyte GA-268A-D3H Should i get a higher PSU?[/quote] It looks like a pretty solid build, I mean you should only need a larger PSU if you want to add a second card, but one GTX 570 is already plenty of graphics power, I'd say it's fine the way it is.

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