[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] redm0nkey That comment seems kind of unnecessary, I am just saying what the purpose of the Aerospace is, im not painting it in a positive light or saying its amazing or anything.[/quote] Sorry, my post was not meant as an attack on your thinking ... but a judgement of how hopeless bungie has become. They no longer have the heart. Even the old timers who remain have grown arrogant and/or slack. And it is obvious by the failure that is aerospace that this can be seen and felt by all except bungie. Good luck with that Activision.