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The Finer Points of Linking (v1.5)

NOTE: The following assumes you have a basic knowledge of how to create links. If you do not, read the [url=/Forums/posts.aspx?postID=10355399]guide to text markups[/url]. This guide will explore the abilities and special applications of linking on Bungie.net. [b][u]Linking Without Opening a New Window[/u][/b] This is one of the nicest and most convenient skills to have, and yet almost nobody knows how to do it. Observe, if you will, the following two links to The Septagon: [url=http://www.bungie.net/Forums/topics.aspx?forumID=3]Link #1[/url] [url=/Forums/topics.aspx?forumID=3]Link #2[/url] Following the first link opens a new browser window or tab, whereas opening the second takes you directly to The Septagon, an overall faster and more convenient experience. How is this accomplished? It's very simple - take a look a the url of The Septagon: http://www.bungie.net/Forums/topics.aspx?forumID=3 Since we're currently already located on http://www.bungie.net, that part is redundant. Remove it to create the following modified url: /Forums/topics.aspx?forumID=3 This modified url will take you to the desired location within the same browser window. To reiterate, take a look at the undisguised link examples from above: [url]http://www.bungie.net/Forums/topics.aspx?forumID=3[/url] (Link #1) [url]/Forums/topics.aspx?forumID=3[/url] (Link #2) It is important to take note of two things here: 1) The technique only works for linking [i]inside[/i] Bungie.net. 2) Remember to put the forward slash ('/') before the url, it won't work. Hopefully everyone will adopt this practice, and we'll see a lot less tabs and windows around. It also decreases the length of the url (not that you damn young 'uns would remember a time that actually mattered). [i]Note: the rest of the guide will negate http://www.bungie.net from examples.[/i] [b][u]Linking Directly to Posts (General Forums)[/u][/b] Interestingly, people link directly to posts all the time without even realizing it. Linking someone to a topic links directly to the first post. Linking directly to posts occurring later on in the thread is a more complicated matter, but only slightly. First of all, you need the post ID number. To obtain this, go to the post you want to link to, and click 'reply' (or alternately 'edit'). Now, take a look at the url, specifically the string of numbers occurring after 'postID='. This is the post ID number. Now that you have obtained the post ID, you can link to the post. This is accomplished by inserting the post ID into the following url: /Forums/posts.aspx?postID= For example, say the post ID is 12345678. The url linking directly to post 12345678 would be: /Forums/posts.aspx?postID=12345678 Here's a practical demonstration linking to the post below mine: [url]/Forums/posts.aspx?postID=32353410[/url] [b][u]Linking Directly to Posts (Groups)[/u][/b] The procedure for linking directly to posts inside groups is largely the same as in the general forums. You need the post ID, which can be found same as above. This time, you also need the group ID, which can be found by going to the group in question's homepage. The url will look like this: http://www.bungie.net/fanclub//Group/GroupHome.aspx The group ID will be located where I have indicated, and can be either a string of numbers or text. Now, put it all together. To link to the post, insert the group ID and post ID into the following url: /fanclub//Forums/posts.aspx?postID= [u][b]Applications of Linking[/b][/u] What follows are interesting applications of linking-related things on this site. [b]Linking directly to the user's profile:[/b] /Account/Profile.aspx Long a staple of prank threads, this url will take the clicker to their own profile (example: [url=/Account/Profile.aspx]this[/url] guy stalks me for some reason). [b]Demonstrating Text Markup:[/b] So say you're instructing someone on how to link, but it's hard to show them what to type because it changes the text like it's supposed to as opposed to showing the actual markups used. There is an easy fix for this - simply put empty bold, italic, or underline tags inside the tag you're attempting to demonstrate. For instance, if I were demonstrating linking: [u[i[i][/i]][/i]rl=http://www.bungie.net]Bungie[/url] You can see the italic tags are empty, and so when you actually submit it it'll just look like this: [u[i][/i]rl=http://www.bungie.net]Bungie[/url] Note that this works for [i]any[/i] text markups. In the first example I showed with the italics tags visible, I made other italics tags break up [i]those[/i] italics tags. You can pretty much keep it going forever if done right. [b]Misdirecting Links:[/b] Another application more useful for pranks than anything else, the misdirecting link will appear at first glance to take you to a certain website, but in reality might take you someplace far different. To explain how this is accomplished, we'll have to set out some terminology first. We will call links of the following type [b]long links[/b]: [i]text markup:[/i] [url]ht[i][/i]tp://www.bungie.net[/url] [i]appearance:[/i] [url]http://www.bungie.net[/url] These will be called [b]lazy links[/b]: [i]text markup:[/i] [url=ht[i][/i]tp://www.bungie.net]Bungie[/url] [i]appearance:[/i] [url=http://www.bungie.net]Bungie[/url] Now, the trick we pull here is to make a [b]lazy link[/b], but make it [i]appear[/i] as a [b]long link[/b]. For instance: [i]text markup:[/i] [url=ht[i][/i]tp://www.penny-arcade.com/]http://www.bungie.net[/url] [i]appearance:[/i] [url=http://www.penny-arcade.com/]http://www.bungie.net[/url] You put the address of the site you want it to [i]appear[/i] as in the text part, and the address of the site you want to [i]link[/i] to in the url part. The above appears to take you to the Bungie.net homepage before clicking, but in reality will take you to Penny Arcade. Casual readers will assume it's a long link for Bungie.net, although this can be smoked out by looking at the bottom left corner of your browser whilst hovering over the link. I'm sure you can think of some interesting applications (but keep it clean folks!). For an excellent related read on tricks with email markups, check out the [url=/Forums/posts.aspx?postID=32373514]Guide To Posting/Linking Emails - Stuff You Didn't Know[/url], written by [url=/Account/Profile.aspx?memberID=1559334]PKF_647[/url]. [Edited on 04.23.2009 4:09 PM PDT]

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  • This will work for a friend of mine.

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  • Also, does anyone know how to link directly to the PM creation screen for a member? There doesn't appear to be a correlation between the user ID you see on their profile screen and the uID necessary for sending them a PM.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Tycho 41 49 Also, does anyone know how to link directly to the PM creation screen for a member? There doesn't appear to be a correlation between the user ID you see on their profile screen and the uID necessary for sending them a PM.[/quote] You mean [url=http://www.bungie.net/Account/Profile.aspx?postID=32354301&act=msg]this?[/url]

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Azineyes You mean [url=http://www.bungie.net/Account/Profile.aspx?postID=32354301&act=msg]this?[/url][/quote]Well yes, obviously it's simple to do for other people. But for yourself there's no way to send yourself a PM and so find out your uID. This leaves two options: 1) Ask someone else to provide you with your uID 2) Create another account for the sole reason of finding your uID both of which are rather inconvenient. Also, it appears you go to a different url when you click 'message this user' from a post than when you click 'message this user' from their profile. Interesting, but makes sense seeing as the subject automatically is related to the thread in the former case. [Edited on 04.22.2009 7:41 PM PDT]

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  • Cool, I'm saving this.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Tycho 41 49 Also, does anyone know how to link directly to the PM creation screen for a member? There doesn't appear to be a correlation between the user ID you see on their profile screen and the uID necessary for sending them a PM.[/quote]Well by looking at the link when I choose to PM you gives me this: [url]http://www.bungie.net/account/profile.aspx?postID=32354301&act=msg[/url] So I would assume the postID number is needed along with the "&act=msg". Or you could just copy and paste links like I do. EDIT: Man, I have been sloooow tonight. I should also add that the link is a reply to this thread. That is why the links are different. For a simple PM it would look like this [url]http://www.bungie.net/account/profile.aspx?uid=6309167&page=PostMsg[/url] [Edited on 04.22.2009 7:46 PM PDT]

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  • OK. I googled my profile and found my uid that way. Other than that, I have not found a link that includes it.

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  • I'll show you what I mean - first, click on my profile. See the user ID? Now click 'message this user'. Look at the uID. The numbers are different - it's easy enough to get your [i]user[/i] ID through a method such as what you tried (you can actually use the site search), but not the uID.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Tycho 41 49 I'll show you what I mean - first, click on my profile. See the user ID? Now click 'message this user'. Look at the uID. The numbers are different - it's easy enough to get your [i]user[/i] ID through a method such as what you tried (you can actually use the site search), but not the uID.[/quote]I know what you are saying. But I found my uID through Google (searching for "message user"+"Jiggly Luv"). One link like [url]http://seventhcolumn.bungie.net/Account/Profile.aspx?uid=2647160&page=Chapters[/url] included my uID. So I did find it without having to create another account. By using that number it linked me to the message user for my own profile, but of course you can't send yourself a message. EDIT: I forgot to mention that Googling might not work for everyone. There may be a way to log off and find a link that includes the uID. [Edited on 04.22.2009 8:14 PM PDT]

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  • Hmmm interesting. On the whole I think I'll conclude the effort far outweighs the reward though. Also, [url=/Forums/posts.aspx?postID=32355560]observe[/url] another example of my linking powers! (thread is now locked)

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  • Darn it Tycho! I've been using this for a long time now. Now everyone's gonna be doing it :(

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Duardo Darn it Tycho! I've been using this for a long time now. Now everyone's gonna be doing it :([/quote]You are so selfish. ;)

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  • Nice guide man! Very interesting.

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  • Now THIS is cool.

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  • Nice thread, its answered some of the questions that i've been meaning to ask someone. ~PK

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Duardo Darn it Tycho! I've been using this for a long time now. Now everyone's gonna be doing it :([/quote]What are you referring to? My misdirecting link? Wonder if I should add that in there... honestly most people should have the brains to figure out how it works, but then again... I think I'll leave it out. Let it be a challenge to the reader.

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  • I have it set up so that when I click a link it just opens a new tab. I think that setup is pretty slick.

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  • I might have to start using some of these, just to spite Duardo...

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] bobcast I have it set up so that when I click a link it just opens a new tab. I think that setup is pretty slick. [/quote] Me too. It's much more neat and organized that way.

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  • [img=C:\pictures\awesomesauce\win.jpg] Win[/img] did i do it right? nice tutorial !!

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Duardo Darn it Tycho! I've been using this for a long time now. Now everyone's gonna be doing it :([/quote][url=http://www.bungie.net/Forums/posts.aspx?postID=30104904]Have no fear, trust me, people never read it all, it will never be widespread ;-)[/url] Good guide OP, much better layed out that within my group guide and much easier to access. This is much more helpful for this than my wall ;-) [Edited on 04.23.2009 10:56 AM PDT]

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  • Alright, I've removed the 'link directly to thread creation/reply/editing' section due to the redundancy, but have added two other tidbits I'm sure you'll find interesting. The guide is officially version 1.5.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] PKF_647 [img=C:\pictures\awesomesauce\win.jpg] Win[/img] did i do it right? nice tutorial !![/quote][url=http://i376.photobucket.com/albums/oo205/robby118bnet/fail.jpg]You am not good[/url]. I actually discovered the link without "bungie.net" when I first saw Achronos post a link to a thread simply "/Forums/posts.aspx?postID=". My initial thought was that he shortened the link to make it look less messy, but then my amazing w3schools.org html skills and I realized that it wasn't necessary. Awesome guide, though. I always knew each post in a thread had some correlation to the thread ID but I never knew how it added up. Gracias!

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  • Awesome-sauce, right here.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Duardo Darn it Tycho! I've been using this for a long time now. Now everyone's gonna be doing it :([/quote] lol or would you rather someone try the direct harddrive linking again.. ;)... To the op. Nice post def should be stickied. I didn't know how to do this until you posted it.. (runs to make linky posts)

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