My thoughts on the defender class... Pve I love being an orb dropper. Heavy machine gun dropping orbs with ruin wings.... PvP control I like having the defense bubble while sitting there. Bubble is void. What if only void damage bullets etc, no nades or rockets, could penetrate? Then vog weapons become relevant again. Ever try Athens epilogue on pvp? Joke. I like all the ideas posted here. Some op . but if bungie takes time to look and implement any of it , I would be happy. Question... I have mele hive orb dropping gauntlets raid . Combined with orb dropping mele does it double drop? I might test on crota start.