Well the argument is god is infinite so there doesn't need to be causation for him. But then you could probably say that about the Big Bang or something.

That's an invalid argument, not to mention a nonsensical one. What you are saying is this: P1: God is Infinite Therefore: God defies causality That's a simple serial argument that is [i]invalid[/i]. If we assume the premise to be true (God is infinite), it does not necessarily follow that God defies causality. This is an especially weak argument because "God is Infinite" is too vague of a premise to base any argument on. You also failed to address my orignal point. If you are to claim that everything has a cause and therefore there must be an original cause for existence, and you claim that that origin lacks a cause for any reason, you have contradicted the first premise for your argument (Everything requires a cause), therefore it is no longer required that everything has an origin if there are things that defy causality. the argument is self-contradictory, and therefore both invalid and unsound. That said, I believe in God for a purely rational reason (Pascal's Wager)

Look up the cosmological argument aka the uncause cause. Not arguing against you just letting you know the argument.

I'm perfectly aware of the cosmological argument. my entire argument was pointing out that it contradicts itself.

I was not arguing with your cause I just told you what I know is one of their arguments.